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Rolfe
29th November 2011, 02:58 PM
Bad idea to let him out, for sure. However, the solution to that is not to let him out. Not to kill him, or to make his life torture.
Rolfe.
timhau
1st December 2011, 01:31 AM
Doesn't surprise me that he turned out to be clinically insane, rather than just a fanatic.
What surprises me is his ability for meticulous planning.
Being delusional doesn't mean you can't devise plans.
timhau
1st December 2011, 01:34 AM
Breivik has now been told about the conclusions of the psychiatric report, and he's quite offended. Not The Saviour, after all. Just an insane man.
"I'm the top-ranking and only Knight in a chivalric order of my own making and the Savior and future Regent of Norway! You can't call me insane!"
Somehow, I doubt that will work.
Rolfe
1st December 2011, 01:40 AM
A number of people took the view initially that he wasn't clinically insane within the medically-accepted meaning of the term. His solicitor seems to have had one conversation with him, and then gone on TV and said, I'm afraid my client is insane.
Seems the solicitor had the right of it this time.
Rolfe.
Blue Mountain
1st December 2011, 05:42 AM
Being delusional doesn't mean you can't devise plans.
It's reminiscent of the punchline of an old joke where the asylum patient says, "I'm in here because I'm crazy, not because I'm stupid."
Safe-Keeper
6th December 2011, 06:44 AM
Some more info on how the verdict was reached here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15928316
Safe-Keeper
25th July 2012, 01:29 PM
This Sunday marked the one-year anniversay of the Utøya attack.
AUF, the Labour Party's youth division, decided to "retake" the island. Dozens of youths and politicans.
This is one of the most moving, uplifting and touching pictures I've seen related to July 22nd. Utøya, the site of a dreadful massacre. They've lost 77 of their friends and family. They've come to remember and honour their dead. One year following the biggest killing spree in modern history, they've gathered at the island to attend this ceremony.
And they're smiling.
http://daisy.sodor.no/generated/32335_2259384.jpg
"Terror can kill humans, but never defeat a people".
AdMan
25th July 2012, 01:47 PM
This Sunday marked the one-year anniversay of the Utøya attack.
AUF, the Labour Party's youth division, decided to "retake" the island. Dozens of youths and politicans.
This is one of the most moving, uplifting and touching pictures I've seen related to July 22nd. Utøya, the site of a dreadful massacre. They've lost 77 of their friends and family. They've come to remember and honour their dead. One year following the biggest killing spree in modern history, they've gathered at the island to attend this ceremony.
And they're smiling.
http://daisy.sodor.no/generated/32335_2259384.jpg
"Terror can kill humans, but never defeat a people".
I think I have something in my eye.
:NORWAY:
Safe-Keeper
25th July 2012, 02:49 PM
Ya. Me too.
Roadtoad
25th July 2012, 03:44 PM
Ditto.
Norwegians Rock.
fuelair
25th July 2012, 04:41 PM
It's not that it's a very violent country, but... it just seems inevitable to me given what he's done. Consider how many rapists and people accused of rape are subjected to vigilante assaults on the streets, even though such cases don't make the news (at least not as cases of vigilantism).
Thank you (and I truly and fully mean this) for affirming there are good people in Norway who do not wish to turn the other cheek or accept monsters among them.
Safe-Keeper
26th July 2012, 09:16 AM
You can see the entire broadcast here (http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/858093/). All is in Norwegian, of course, but it's got some great imagery, and it might interest you anyhow.
Rolfe
26th July 2012, 09:31 AM
Thank you (and I truly and fully mean this) for affirming there are good people in Norway who do not wish to turn the other cheek or accept monsters among them.
I had to read that several times to figure out if I was seeing things.
I feel sick now. :(
Rolfe.
fuelair
26th July 2012, 10:49 AM
I had to read that several times to figure out if I was seeing things.
I feel sick now. :(
Rolfe.
Sorry, I thought it was pretty clear. And you have commented on my writings in similar vein before, so. Neat thing is, last night I saw a science program involving studies of psychopaths - turns out a near foolproof method of determining if one is one is a series of brain studies that essentially test your reaction to seeing others put in pain. For random people (and I may see if I can be a test subject , just curious)in pain (let's call them victims just for fun) I already know my first response is to help them. SO, if I am psychopathic/related, it is to the people who choose to do that to others - and I do not mind that at all!!!
Rolfe
26th July 2012, 12:18 PM
You have just stated that you believe people who carry out violent assaults on people in the streets are "good people". That doesn't make you psychopathic. It is nevertheless a sickening attitude.
Personally, I prefer the rule of law. Next time, you could be the untried, falsely-accused person who is being attacked by the "good people".
Rolfe.
fuelair
27th July 2012, 11:18 PM
You have just stated that you believe people who carry out violent assaults on people in the streets are "good people". That doesn't make you psychopathic. It is nevertheless a sickening attitude.
Personally, I prefer the rule of law. Next time, you could be the untried, falsely-accused person who is being attacked by the "good people".
Rolfe.
Funny, the implication of the post I noted was they were not going after innocents/wrongly accused. If I have been misled, please let me know!! Thanks, f.
Rolfe
28th July 2012, 05:44 AM
Vigilante attacks are appalling even against the convicted. Against people who have merely been accused, they are unconscionable.
I seriously would not want to live in the sort of society you seem to admire.
Rolfe.
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