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Tony
16th April 2004, 07:56 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3628723.stm ..full article

Canada is a major exporter of high-potency marijuana, according to the man who leads the US war on drugs.
White House "drug czar" John Walters says new cultivation methods mean marijuana sold today in the US is much stronger than in the 1960s.

"We have a growing problem with the expansion of particularly high-potency marijuana coming from Canada," he said.




Tells those sonsofbitches in Washington that you're not going to bow to their tyranny.

tedly
16th April 2004, 08:08 AM
No Tony. The Candian way will over come.

Just say "No thank you" to foreign domination.

Edited to try alternative spellings.

KelvinG
16th April 2004, 08:09 AM
Well, I think we have so far. Pot laws are quite relaxed (incredibly so in Vancouver).
Decriminalization is on it's way. Hopefully legalization as well.

KelvinG
16th April 2004, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by tedly
No Tony. The Candian way will over come.

Just say "No thank you" to foriegn domination.

Hey, it works.

DaChew
16th April 2004, 10:44 AM
Man... legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there.

The idea
16th April 2004, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by DaChew
Man... legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there.
In Canada, few people use spoken or written language. There is so much immigration into Canada that Canadians often communicate by means of physical gestures and grunts.

The idea
16th April 2004, 10:49 AM
Dear Inhabitants of Planet Earth:

Don't mess with the USA!

Disarming all American patriots would be a difficult undertaking.

You might want to start with a super-easy task. First disarm the citizens of Switzerland who provide a defensive military capacity to the nation of Switzerland. Beware of the cuckoo clocks!

Bearguin
16th April 2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by DaChew
Man... legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there.

Just a point about the "beer practically flows out of faucets". If you count what the Americans sell as beer, then beer is easier to buy in the US then Canada.

Of course, if you are intelligent enough to know that what they sell down there does NOT count as beer, then your statement is correct.

Grammatron
16th April 2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Gods Advocate


Just a point about the "beer practically flows out of faucets". If you count what the Americans sell as beer, then beer is easier to buy in the US then Canada.

Of course, if you are intelligent enough to know that what they sell down there does NOT count as beer, then your statement is correct.

Is this another one of those "American beer sucks LOL!" posts? Because if it is you are very wrong, California microbreweries are among the best in the world.

Cleon
16th April 2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Grammatron


Is this another one of those "American beer sucks LOL!" posts? Because if it is you are very wrong, California microbreweries are among the best in the world.

True. While we're indeed cursed with beer-flavored seltzer water like Budweiser, Coors, and--*groan*--Busch Lite, some American microbrews produce high quality stuff.

My personal favorite is Yuengling, based in Pottsville, PA (it's also the oldest brewery in the US). Hard to find a better lager, and it's cheap, too.

Frostbite
16th April 2004, 12:40 PM
Our beer isn't at 3.9% alcohol. It's 7% and it kills neurones.

Charlie Monoxide
16th April 2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Cleon


True. While we're indeed cursed with beer-flavored seltzer water like Budweiser, Coors, and--*groan*--Busch Lite, some American microbrews produce high quality stuff.

My personal favorite is Yuengling, based in Pottsville, PA (it's also the oldest brewery in the US). Hard to find a better lager, and it's cheap, too.

You got that Cleon! There are literally tons of great beer in the US. MY favorites are Anchor Steam and Sierra Nevada and any of the microbreweries around. Heck in Texas, Shiner Bock ain't bad neither. I'll talke any of these beers over a Blue or Molson Golden anyday. I do like Upper Canada Ale though (in Ontario).

Charlie (beer goes best with Canadian bud!) Monoxide

Tony
16th April 2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Frostbite
Our beer isn't at 3.9% alcohol. It's 7% and it kills neurones.

Whose beer, besides Utah, is at 3.9%?

Grammatron
16th April 2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide


You got that Cleon! There are literally tons of great beer in the US. MY favorites are Anchor Steam and Sierra Nevada and any of the microbreweries around. Heck in Texas, Shiner Bock ain't bad neither. I'll talke any of these beers over a Blue or Molson Golden anyday. I do like Upper Canada Ale though (in Ontario).

Charlie (beer goes best with Canadian bud!) Monoxide

My favorite Canadian beer is Unibroue pretty much anything out of that brewery is great.

epepke
16th April 2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Grammatron
My favorite Canadian beer is Unibroue pretty much anything out of that brewery is great.

I believe that the brewery that makes La Fin Du Monde is Canadian. Excellent stuff. Of course, the US has Blue Moon, which is also excellent.

I go for Gordon Biersch as my favorite American lagers, which are equal to or superior to anything I ever had in Germany. Samuel Adams is not bad, though. But I think the US really excels in bottled ales, which are better than you can get in the UK. The UK still has an edge on live, cask bitter, though I've been to two brewpubs in the US that had real bitter. One was at a little place in Boston that my feet know how to get to, and the other was at Sherlock's. I can't remember the city. They took their beer seriously. Like many places, they have celebrity photos of visitors. The ones of ex-Presidents of the US are little, but there's one big one of Michael Jackson (the rotund beer guy with facial hair, not the one who was charged with pedophilia).

Frostbite
16th April 2004, 01:00 PM
Unibroue rocks. La Fin du Monde is great.

epepke
16th April 2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Frostbite
Unibroue rocks. La Fin du Monde is great.

So Unibroue is the company that makes it? I forgot. Which, I think, is a normal side-effect of consuming the product.

Tmy
16th April 2004, 01:22 PM
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

The good people of Boston decided not to sink to their level and were respectful of the Canadian anthem at the next game in Boston.

epepke
16th April 2004, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

Now, now. That could be considered an unprovoked insult toward the French. Quebecois are about as French as Cajuns are.

Frostbite
16th April 2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

They always do that and it's quite shameful. :(

Tmy
16th April 2004, 01:29 PM
Pardon me. I guess I shouldve called them " le' bagga douche' "

Charlie Monoxide
16th April 2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

The good people of Boston decided not to sink to their level and were respectful of the Canadian anthem at the next game in Boston.

Hey, don't flatter yourself, the Quebecois boo EVERY national anthem, including Canada's.

Charlie (la fin du monde = the end of the world) Monoxide

mbp
16th April 2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

Is this common?
I attended a Canucks game in Vancouver last december and not only was the US anthem not booed, the crowd maintaned a respectful silence and then sang their own anthem vigourously.
Exactly as such things should be - and I was quite impressed. But it seems things are not always like that?

Frostbite
16th April 2004, 02:00 PM
Quebec is different. Stuff about separating and having our own country and generally hating everything causes that. So yeah, we boo the US anthem cause we disagree with the whole anti-terror war thing, and we boo the canadian anthem cause we consider ourselves a distinct culture which deserves its own country. Personally I think we're a bunch of witless crybabies who sit on our asses and complain about everything.

Ed
16th April 2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Frostbite
Quebec is different. Stuff about separating and having our own country and generally hating everything causes that. So yeah, we boo the US anthem cause we disagree with the whole anti-terror war thing, and we boo the canadian anthem cause we consider ourselves a distinct culture which deserves its own country. Personally I think we're a bunch of witless crybabies who sit on our asses and complain about everything.

Sounds like New Yorkers.

Bottle or the Gun
16th April 2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Tony
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3628723.stm ..full article
Tells those sonsofbitches in Washington that you're not going to bow to their tyranny.

Isn't beer good enough? Why do pot-heads get so upset if they can't get any? What is the attraction? Put the joint down, moron...get a job.

FFed
16th April 2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

The good people of Boston decided not to sink to their level and were respectful of the Canadian anthem at the next game in Boston.

I think it's time that the rest of Canada has a referendum about kicking Quebec out of Canada. I can honestly say that I don't have one friend who would vote to keep them in Canada. The fans in Boston have class. The fans in Montreal can go F themselves.

PogoPedant
16th April 2004, 05:02 PM
Well, I've been sampling a number of nordic beers this evening, and all I can say is I need home for a rest...

Tony
16th April 2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Bottle or the Gun

Isn't beer good enough?

Not even close.

Why do pot-heads get so upset if they can't get any?

Why do beer lovers get upset if they can't get any?

Put the joint down, moron...get a job.

Where do you think I post from?

RandFan
16th April 2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

The good people of Boston decided not to sink to their level and were respectful of the Canadian anthem at the next game in Boston. :)

PygmyPlaidGiraffe
17th April 2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by FFed


I think it's time that the rest of Canada has a referendum about kicking Quebec out of Canada. I can honestly say that I don't have one friend who would vote to keep them in Canada. The fans in Boston have class. The fans in Montreal can go F themselves.

I agree,

Especially after a group of protestors (not sure if they were hockey fans though) in Montreal targeted an American Coach that came up to Canada with a hockey team of pre-teens. Angry jerks shook the bus load of kids and banged the windows and terrorised the young kids.

A year later the same kids were invited to play a game in Nova Scotia, after some negotiation and apologies from Canadian Minor hockey associations. They mixed up the Canadian and American teams and they played a friendly game. The American kids and their families appreciated this gesture. If I can find a link to the story I will post it here.I thnk I found a version of the story here (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31846)


looks like I remembered some of the facts wrong : here is a link to the reception the same players got in New Brunswick (http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101%257E6295%257E2039927,00.html)

KelvinG
17th April 2004, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Tmy
Speaking of the canucks,

Those lousy montreal canadian french douchebags actually booed the the US anthem at the Bruins/canadian hockey game.

The good people of Boston decided not to sink to their level and were respectful of the Canadian anthem at the next game in Boston.

I have a whole new respect for Boston fans after this. They took the high road when they had ever reason not to.

Jas
17th April 2004, 09:39 PM
The brewery that makes La fin du monde also makes Maudite, which is one of my favourites. Mmmm, Quebec beer.

Man... legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there.

Do the strip bars in the States not have full nudity?!? How do they strip then?

epepke
18th April 2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Jas
Do the strip bars in the States not have full nudity?!? How do they strip then?

Depends on the state and county.

I've been to, I think, five strip bars in my life. The best one, actually, did not have full nudity and required a G-string. There was a woman there with very long hair who climbed to the top of the pole and did a long sort-of ballet slide slowly to the bottom. It showed some artistry, at least.

shanek
18th April 2004, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by KelvinG
Well, I think we have so far.

Really? You've turned Steve Kubby back over to the forces bent on killing him by denying him the only medicine his doctors say will keep him alive, over to the same forces that killed Peter McWilliams and so many others.

peptoabysmal
18th April 2004, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by DaChew
Man... legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there.

Converted to canukian:

Beauty eh*? Legalized pot, fully nude strip bars, casinos, beer practically flows out of the faucets, Hockey as religion, Cuban cigars... If I thought I could learn the language I might move there, eh?

*pronounced "A"

KelvinG
18th April 2004, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by shanek


Really? You've turned Steve Kubby back over to the forces bent on killing him by denying him the only medicine his doctors say will keep him alive, over to the same forces that killed Peter McWilliams and so many others.

Hey, I never said the system was perfect.

For the most part we've created a mentality towards pot that is in stark contrast to the official US stance.
But, yes, the Kubby incident is unfortunate and somewhat shameful.
Hey, it's not our fault the US government is a bunch of heartless thugs!!

shanek
18th April 2004, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by KelvinG
Hey, it's not our fault the US government is a bunch of heartless thugs!!

But it IS your (or rather, your government's) fault for going along with it.

Canada is a perfect example of how halfway-drug reform doesn't work. There may be a difference in magnitude, but people are still victims to the whims of the politicians just as they are here. There needs to be full-scale recognition of the principle that people have the right to control what happens to their own bodies.

The idea
18th April 2004, 08:56 AM
When was the last time that Paul Martin's wife made a withdrawal from the sperm bank? How about Hillary, (USA's next President) (?!?) (We can't have a black woman as President because she is smarter than Bush or so they say or don't say or might say and so forth...)

KelvinG
18th April 2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by shanek


But it IS your (or rather, your government's) fault for going along with it.

Canada is a perfect example of how halfway-drug reform doesn't work. There may be a difference in magnitude, but people are still victims to the whims of the politicians just as they are here. There needs to be full-scale recognition of the principle that people have the right to control what happens to their own bodies.

In this particular instance, I am disapointed that our government took the stance that it did.
And yes, sadly, like most countries, we are often victims to the whims of our politicians. If I had to pick one system over the other, I would pick ours though.
For now...

shanek
18th April 2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by KelvinG
And yes, sadly, like most countries, we are often victims to the whims of our politicians. If I had to pick one system over the other, I would pick ours though.
For now...

I'll grant you that. But I don't see anything stopping your system from turning into ours over time (in fact, that is pretty much our system as it was in the 1960s and 1970s), and I would not hesitate to prefer a more libertarian system than either of those.

Pvt. Stash
18th April 2004, 10:50 PM
Absolutely correct Shanek , jus' look to Canada's latest "decrim" legislation .... its not decrim at all, it actually makes penalties worse.

Canada is poised on the edge of social enlightenment or the misguided US-style drug was that was worked SO well here in the US. (not)

Also so very tired of those drug-warriors talkin' about "all this pot from canada"... Canada's contribution to the US pot market isnt even 10% of whats coming in from Mexico and about 20% of what we grow here ourselves domestically.

slimshady2357
19th April 2004, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Bottle or the Gun
Isn't beer good enough?

No. It tastes like s**t to me, gives me a hangover and reduces both my mental and physical competence in a very noticeable and unpleasant way for me.

Why do pot-heads get so upset if they can't get any?

The same reason people who drank alcohol got so upset when they were told they were not allowed to drink it. Are you really this stupid?

Put the joint down, moron...get a job. [/B]

Yes, it seems you really are that stupid.

Adam

Frostbite
19th April 2004, 06:53 AM
In other news, before saturday's Montreal-Boston game in Montreal, it appears the audience didn't boo the US or canadian anthems. They actually stood up and cheered. I guess they forgot!

DaChew
19th April 2004, 08:12 AM
There is much to reply to. Wish I had access on the weekends.

Gods Advocate

Just a point about the "beer practically flows out of faucets". If you count what the Americans sell as beer, then beer is easier to buy in the US then Canada.

And all of those on the subject of American beer. The German beer purity law of 1516 clearly states: "Furthermore, we wish to emphasize that in future in all cities, markets and in the country, the only ingredients used for the brewing of beer must be Barley, Hops and Water. " I now refer you to the ingredients in a Budweiser or other mass produced American "beer" that may be found on the side of the bottle (no, I don't want you to buy or drink one. You shouldn't have to suffer just for me to make a point. Find an empty.) It clearly says: choice grains and hops. NOT BARLEY and hops, GRAINS and hops. Budweiser uses rice (probably) and other adjuncts in the brewing process. That, my friends, to me, means Budweiser ain't, technically, beer.
I've found no other specific, reliable definition of beer so that's the one I'm using.

On the subject of nudity (I like the way this thread is progressing) Here in the Enchanted Mitten and it's Northern Bunny Buddy (that's Michigan gang) the law says that establishments that serve alcohol must NOT also feature fully nude dancing. That means two things: alcohol and boobies only or the oddest combination - $8 cups of coffee with full nudity.

As for pot. I hate pot smoke. I think it's disgusting. The damage pot does to the lungs is horrible. But so what? Who cares what I think about what other people do to themselves. Where does our government derive this power to decide that alcohol is OK but marijuana is not? We're talking about a plant that grows all by itself. Why not make mold illegal too? Poison Ivy is bad for you, lets make that illegal too.

PygmyPlaidGiraffe
24th July 2004, 03:55 PM
Canada still lacks the gonads in regards to an intelligence agent who was charged in the death of Canadian photojournalist Zahra Kazemi.



Torture/Abuse Canadians: We don't mind it, eh? (http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/07/24/kazemi040724.html)


Canada has a poor track record of standing up for its citizens.