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Skeptic
16th April 2004, 03:41 PM
From yahoo (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=5&u=/ap/20040416/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_front_line) :

Troops Blast Music in Siege of Fallujah

By JASON KEYSER, Associated Press Writer

FALLUJAH, Iraq - In Fallujah's darkened, empty streets, U.S. troops blast AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" and other rock music full volume from a huge speaker, hoping to grate on the nerves of this Sunni Muslim city's gunmen and give a laugh to Marines along the front line.

Unable to advance farther into the city, an Army psychological operations team hopes a mix of heavy metal and insults shouted in Arabic — including, "You shoot like a goat herder" — will draw gunmen to step forward and attack. But no luck Thursday night.

"You shoot like a goat herder"???????

WTF??????

Two possibilities:

1). "You shoot like a goat herder" is indeed an intolerable insult to Iraqis, in which case one wonders what caused goat herders in particular to somehow become notorious with bad marksmanship.

2). The reporter doesn't actually know Arabic, so when he asked the soldiers what some Arabic statement (which could have been "Surrender your weapons", for all we know) meant, the soldier he asked pulled his leg and claimed that's what it said.

I suspect it's (2), since "goat herder" is a term used prejorative term for Arabs in general IN ENGLISH, and so far as I know doesn't have any particular negative connotations (or relation to marksmanship) in Arabic.

Nitpick
16th April 2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Skeptic

I suspect it's (2), since "goat herder" is a term used prejorative term for Arabs in general IN ENGLISH, and so far as I know doesn't have any particular negative connotations (or relation to marksmanship) in Arabic.

3) Some guys in the Army who don't speak Arabic themselves thought out the insult and the translator translated it verbatim without pointng out the "insult's" lack of real meaning in Arabic.

Nitpick
16th April 2004, 04:02 PM
4) It's the plan: The Iraqis will be so puzzled by this seemingly meaningless insult, that they'll come over to the US troops to ask them what exactly it's supposed to mean... :p

epepke
16th April 2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Nitpick
4) It's the plan: The Iraqis will be so puzzled by this seemingly meaningless insult, that they'll come over to the US troops to ask them what exactly it's supposed to mean... :p

Or maybe it's like Monty Python's World War II joke.

"Zere vere two peanuts valking down the strasse. And vun of zem vas assaulted...peanut."

SRW
16th April 2004, 04:21 PM
Marines Reallly hate goat hearders (http://www.dpft.org/hernandez/ap_062997.html)

karl
16th April 2004, 04:28 PM
Speaking of Python ...

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"