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headscratcher4
22nd April 2004, 07:56 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=1&u=/ap/20040422/ap_on_re_eu/britain_diana_pictures
I didn't see the show, and think that showing photos like this...of anyone...is certainly in bad taste.
However, I am bemused that the British press would be screaming about the poor taste of the American press...I've seen London papers...this is a lot of the kettle calling the pot black, IMO.
Diana, BTW, is a bore -- like the rest of the royal genetic mutations -- they should let her rest in peace.
Mr Manifesto
22nd April 2004, 08:01 AM
Seven years she's been under the sod, and the supermarket mags are still spraying her mug all over the front cover and trying to dig up scandal. WHAT ELSE COULD POSSIBLY BE SAID ABOUT HER?!?
And I wish Mohommad Al-Fayed would get a grip. DRUNK DRIVING ACCIDENT! NOT HARD WHEN YOUR DRIVER IS FULL AS A BOOT!
Badger
22nd April 2004, 08:02 AM
I think it's in the same realm as the McGruder (sp?) film of the JFK assasination, the film of RFK assasination, the Waco Texas storming, and the planes crashing into the WTC.
It's not overly tasteful, but seeing people get dead rarely is.
BillyTK
22nd April 2004, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
However, I am bemused that the British press would be screaming about the poor taste of the American press...I've seen London papers...this is a lot of the kettle calling the pot black, IMO.
I can only get the National Inquirer on import :p
Diana, BTW, is a bore -- like the rest of the royal genetic mutations -- they should let her rest in peace.
The beatification of Diana continues apace. I just don't get why people buy into the whole "fairytale princess" myth. Can't they see it for the marketing scam that it is?
richardm
22nd April 2004, 08:11 AM
I think it's an absolute scandal and disgrace. The British media won't let us see the pictures. No fair.
c0rbin
22nd April 2004, 08:17 AM
This new medium we all play at here is chocked full of morbid imagery, often coupled with hard-core pornography. Personally, the two never mixed for me.
A couple examples:
steakandcheese.com
stileproject.com
a_unique_person
22nd April 2004, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=1&u=/ap/20040422/ap_on_re_eu/britain_diana_pictures
I didn't see the show, and think that showing photos like this...of anyone...is certainly in bad taste.
However, I am bemused that the British press would be screaming about the poor taste of the American press...I've seen London papers...this is a lot of the kettle calling the pot black, IMO.
Diana, BTW, is a bore -- like the rest of the royal genetic mutations -- they should let her rest in peace.
It's nothing to do about taste, and everything to do with business.
Sane
22nd April 2004, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by richardm
I think it's an absolute scandal and disgrace. The British media won't let us see the pictures. No fair.
You didn't miss anything... The images showed were in black and white and very grainy. One was of a doctor trying to help Diana and another of her in the back seat of the car. However, I couldn't tell if the the photo of her in the car was taken before or after the accident as the reporter provided no context.
headscratcher4
22nd April 2004, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
It's nothing to do about taste, and everything to do with business.
In short, the Brit Tabs are P*ssed off because they can't publish the photos and "taste" is just a substitute for their frustration.
I agree entirely.
Regnad Kcin
22nd April 2004, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
And I wish Mohommad Al-Fayed would get a grip. DRUNK DRIVING ACCIDENT! NOT HARD WHEN YOUR DRIVER IS FULL AS A BOOT! And Diana was not wearing a seatbelt. Considering she was alive for some time after the accident, it's altogether possible she would be alive today but for this brilliant move on the part of the evil racist death squad.
Q-Source
22nd April 2004, 09:43 AM
Condemning the pictures of Diana in the car accident just brings more attention to them. If those pictures will never be seen in the UK then why all the media and family are making so much noise.
Now everyone in Britain wants to see the pictures :D
It is just hipocrisy of the media. THey didn't hesitate to publish the horrible bodies of Saddam Hussein's sons on the front page of every magazine. Diana -dead or alive- has always been exploited by the media, what makes the difference now?
Nikk
22nd April 2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Regnad Kcin
And Diana was not wearing a seatbelt. Considering she was alive for some time after the accident, it's altogether possible she would be alive today but for this brilliant move on the part of the evil racist death squad.
The special branch bodyguard in the front seat who was wearing a belt survived. Di's death was natural selection in action.
davidhorman
22nd April 2004, 12:56 PM
In short, the Brit Tabs are P*ssed off because they can't publish the photos and "taste" is just a substitute for their frustration.
To hear Piers Morgan (I forget which paper he edits this morning), it would seem that no British newspaper editor would ever think of publishing such photos, since the day after the accident when they first appeared on his desk.
However, I am bemused that the British press would be screaming about the poor taste of the American press...I've seen London papers...this is a lot of the kettle calling the pot black, IMO.
Seriously, can you cite an example? I don't read the papers much.
David
headscratcher4
22nd April 2004, 01:01 PM
I don't know that I have a specific example, but I do recall last time I was in London and some girl went missing on her way home from School, and the tabloids were most "American" in their screaming headlines and efforts to interview the distraught parents, etc.
I also remember a couple of years back, didn't one of the Papers take it upon themselves to publish the names and address of released sex offenders? I seem to remember a mob lynching of the wrong person...but that might be one of the BBC cop shows I watch occasionally rather than a real event.
c0rbin
22nd April 2004, 01:16 PM
The special branch bodyguard in the front seat who was wearing a belt survived.
Hell. This fellow is lucky they weren't pulling Di's and Fyad's teeth out of the back of his skull.
Bloody inconsiderate.
Nikk
22nd April 2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
I also remember a couple of years back, didn't one of the Papers take it upon themselves to publish the names and address of released sex offenders? I seem to remember a mob lynching of the wrong person...but that might be one of the BBC cop shows I watch occasionally rather than a real event.
I can't recall a British mob lynching anybody, not even if they were black.
On the other hand a tabloid did publish the names and addresses of some sex offenders a few years back and I believe innocent people got their houses ransacked as some of the addresses were wrong!
davidhorman
22nd April 2004, 03:48 PM
I don't know that I have a specific example, but I do recall last time I was in London and some girl went missing on her way home from School, and the tabloids were most "American" in their screaming headlines and efforts to interview the distraught parents, etc.
I also remember a couple of years back, didn't one of the Papers take it upon themselves to publish the names and address of released sex offenders? I seem to remember a mob lynching of the wrong person...but that might be one of the BBC cop shows I watch occasionally rather than a real event.
No, I remember that too. I think the papers got as far as publishing names, and possibly towns, then dug up some photos - in more than one case, one, some, or all of those "facts" were either incorrect or ambiguous, leading to more than one innocent person getting abuse. There's also the (possibly an urban legend) story of the paediatrician who couldn't leave his or her house because of the mob.
But I don't personally think those quite reach the level of gratuitous photos of a dying woman in a wrecked car.
David
Mr Manifesto
22nd April 2004, 04:13 PM
That was News of the Screws and their 'Name, Blame, Shame and Maim' campaign.
I believe the mobs who spray-painted 'prevert' and 'basterds' (sic) on the houses were referred to as, 'over-enthusiastic'.
Brian
22nd April 2004, 04:52 PM
I would've rather seen (living) pictures of her boobies than pictures of her innards.
a_unique_person
22nd April 2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
In short, the Brit Tabs are P*ssed off because they can't publish the photos and "taste" is just a substitute for their frustration.
I agree entirely.
I didn't think that far into it, but yes, that would be about right.
plindboe
22nd April 2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
In short, the Brit Tabs are P*ssed off because they can't publish the photos and "taste" is just a substitute for their frustration.
Long before this broadcast, the british press had all agreed that they wouldn't publish the pictures, so this isn't why they're pissed. The british press sure have been extremely distasteful in the past concerning the royals, but borderline snuff like this goes way beyond that, imo.
charley_bigtime
22nd April 2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by plindboe
Long before this broadcast, the british press had all agreed that they wouldn't publish the pictures, so this isn't why they're pissed. The british press sure have been extremely distasteful in the past concerning the royals, but borderline snuff like this goes way beyond that, imo.
But the odd dead foreigner is acceptable though ain't it?
I can guarantee you that every editor is chomping at the bit to publish them. The only thing holding them back is the thought of the hypocritcal pseudo-outrage from the two faced British public.
plindboe
22nd April 2004, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by charley_bigtime
But the odd dead foreigner is acceptable though ain't it?
Depends on the motive. If it's for the purpose alone of showing someone dying, so their viewers can get an adrenaline rush, it is disgusting. I wonder how many money they paid for the pictures.
charley_bigtime
22nd April 2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by plindboe
Depends on the motive. If it's for the purpose alone of showing someone dying, so their viewers can get an adrenaline rush, it is disgusting.
Well someone earlier brought up Saddams two sons and the pictures that were shown of them being poked, prodded and also after they had been hacked apart.
Few complaints there as the baddies "got their comeuppance."
There's something hideously medieval about that to be honest.
reprise
22nd April 2004, 10:50 PM
So when do we get to see the Dodi photos?
Lothian
23rd April 2004, 12:19 AM
Who is Diana ?
Darat
23rd April 2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
In short, the Brit Tabs are P*ssed off because they can't publish the photos and "taste" is just a substitute for their frustration.
I agree entirely.
Spot on.
If they thought they could publish them without a backlash they'd have done so.
Instead they can use old "nice" pictures of the crash and Diana all over their pages to sell newspapers whilst pretending a moral indignation.
Darat
23rd April 2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by plindboe
Long before this broadcast, the british press had all agreed that they wouldn't publish the pictures, so this isn't why they're pissed. The british press sure have been extremely distasteful in the past concerning the royals, but borderline snuff like this goes way beyond that, imo.
Sorry but they agreed because she is Saint Diana over here and they knew they would be an outcry and they'd be screams of "think of the boys".
If one of the papers thought they could get away with it they would.
richardm
23rd April 2004, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Darat
If one of the papers thought they could get away with it they would.
Yes, and if one of them did it would guarantee bumper sales of that issue. I wonder if any of them will weaken?
Darat
23rd April 2004, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by richardm
Yes, and if one of them did it would guarantee bumper sales of that issue. I wonder if any of them will weaken?
I suppose it will be if they can get away with their normal hypocritical "These are those sick and disgusting pictures that the terrible network showed", followed by a lot of comments like "We didn't want to show you them but you need to see them so you can understand why we think it was so disgusting they were shown on TV."
headscratcher4
23rd April 2004, 09:55 AM
Not to beat a dead princess, but I was reading an article at Salon Online Magazine (no link because it takes registration to access) on the British press condemning CBS over the use of the Photos.
The piece noted that the same papers that are complaining that the death photos are in poort taste, a violation of the family, etc. are happy to run pictures of Prince William in his speedo playing water-polo. Of couse pictures of the practically naked heir to the throne are not in poor taste (there's a bad joke about how the people have a right to see the royal septer in here somewhere :o ).
Anyway, I thought it an interesting point. Bottom line is the royals should just go away and end the whole discussion by getting real jobs and having to live like the rest of us slobs....
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