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Badly Shaved Monkey
22nd April 2004, 01:27 PM
Alt Med websites love tales of personal health miracles. So here is one.

I have had a sore throat for 2 weeks. In the last 4 days my lymph nodes have become enlarged and painful.

Yesterday I started taking antibiotics and today I feel much better.

My question to the homeopathic readers of this forum is:

Should I unequivocally claim that the antibiotics have produced this dramatic improvement, because;

" This just shows what can happen when you get the right remedy and the right potency, so never give up hope."

Rolfe
22nd April 2004, 01:50 PM
What, no Planet X option? :D

Rolfe.

garys_2k
22nd April 2004, 02:00 PM
You only want the four homeopaths to vote here, right?

Badly Shaved Monkey
22nd April 2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by garys_2k
You only want the four homeopaths to vote here, right?

Probably. They might find the right answer if given help and I want to see what they choose on their own.

Badly Shaved Monkey
22nd April 2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Rolfe
What, no Planet X option? :D

Rolfe.

Spot the newbie, I guess. I didn't realise it was compulsory!

Rolfe
22nd April 2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Spot the newbie, I guess. I didn't realise it was compulsory! Not that new. Ever going to choose an avatar?

Sorry, I voted first. I need to clean my glasses, I didn't see who the question was directed to. Did I give it away?

By the way, four homoeopathic readers, if Barb's come by recently, but five accounts.

Rolfe.

Badly Shaved Monkey
22nd April 2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Rolfe
Not that new. Ever going to choose an avatar?

Sorry, I voted first. I need to clean my glasses, I didn't see who the question was directed to. Did I give it away?

Rolfe.

2/2 correct so far!

Soapy Sam
22nd April 2004, 02:49 PM
...BSM- Stay Avatar free. Conserve bandwidth and save the virtual rain forest.

Yahweh
22nd April 2004, 05:30 PM
Quite clearly a case of the world's most powerful placebo, in my professional opinion.

Prester John
23rd April 2004, 02:09 AM
Its obvious, stimulus and effect, if an event directly follows an event the second event must be caused by the first, isn't it ? isn't it?



Ok lets apply some more logic, antibiotics cure sore throats, and they generally work in about 24 hrs QED surely?


;)







NB The aboves does not neccesarily reflect the opinion of the poster

Badly Shaved Monkey
23rd April 2004, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by Prester John
Its obvious, stimulus and effect, if an event directly follows an event the second event must be caused by the first, isn't it ? isn't it?



Ok lets apply some more logic, antibiotics cure sore throats, and they generally work in about 24 hrs QED surely?


;)







NB The aboves does not neccesarily reflect the opinion of the poster

I think what you were meaning to say was.

"Antibiotics have been around for millions of years. Bacteria discovered them and they have been part of traditional bacterial culture (culture, geddit?) for millennia. Millions of practitioners use them thanks to their training and are never wrong when they say that the patient showed a genuine response to their magic bullets. Coincidences never happen, practitioners always know a curative effect when they see one. Even if the patient gets worse or dies this was not because of misdiagnosis it was proof of the antibiotics' power to cause aggravations. Deafness caused by aminoglycosides is but one example of the powerful ability to produce beneficial aggravation, which the naysayers may call side effects."

Enough with the parody. They'll never get it.

Still someone voted for option 1, who wants to own up?

mummymonkey
23rd April 2004, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Still someone voted for option 1, who wants to own up?
Me. I wanted to justify the cost of the drugs.

Rolfe
23rd April 2004, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
"Antibiotics have been around for millions of years. Bacteria discovered them and they have been part of traditional bacterial culture (culture, geddit?) for millennia. Millions of practitioners use them thanks to their training and are never wrong when they say that the patient showed a genuine response to their magic bullets. Coincidences never happen, practitioners always know a curative effect when they see one. Even if the patient gets worse or dies this was not because of misdiagnosis it was proof of the antibiotics' power to cause aggravations. Deafness caused by aminoglycosides is but one example of the powerful ability to produce beneficial aggravation, which the naysayers may call side effects.":dl:

Rolfe.

(Thinks Prester John knows about bacteria and culture....)

Eos of the Eons
24th April 2004, 09:42 AM
"Antibiotics have been around for millions of years. Bacteria discovered them and they have been part of traditional bacterial culture (culture, geddit?) for millennia.


Hmm, I'll have to pay more attention to the bacterial 'culture' in the petri dish!:D :D
Them fungi are just annoyances sometimes, the bacteria tolerate their presence as long as things don't get out of hand. Then they just become complacent sometimes and the fungi commit genocide. But, just like antibiotics, they have become part of bacterial culture, and that is long and complicated history.

I voted option 3, and it looks like I'm on the bandwagon of those who don't like anectdotal evidence. Shame shame on us doubters.

Rob Lister
26th April 2006, 04:45 AM
Hi! The Fatal desease: would you like to know? poll brought me here