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cyclonic
17th September 2011, 02:04 PM
911truther 'mrnews' yelling on the streets of auckland is attacked by a passerby!
lol.
_PoClkCKQKw

WildCat
17th September 2011, 02:13 PM
Do truthers think these videos make them look good? I saw a loon ranting on the street.

cyclonic
17th September 2011, 02:39 PM
Do truthers think these videos make them look good? I saw a loon ranting on the street.

LOL, here is a followup video he made.

Conspiracy Theorists ARE GOOD PEOPLE

M-f-UhRlRCw

Dash80
17th September 2011, 02:47 PM
Violence is never the answer but... LOL what a twit!

Dog Town
17th September 2011, 02:49 PM
Assaulted? What a pussy...cat!

Dash80
17th September 2011, 03:01 PM
Assaulting these morons is counter-productive, they'll only use that to their advantage (Look the sheeple attacked me), walking right past ignoring them hurts so much more. I once had some truther idiot follow me down the street yelling crap at me, just because I didn't acknowledge his pathetic existence.

ozeco41
17th September 2011, 03:31 PM
I've never met one in real life.

It sounds quaint to my Aussie ears to hear New Zulland eccents in a typical Kiwi setting mouthing stock standard US truther stupidities.


I would hope that if I did meet one o these types my use of a few well chosen words would carve him in shreds. BUT not this clown. He has control of his setting and is getting no response - so no way could you beat him at his game in that setting.

Shouting him down with better insults could easily leave the police with a "need to do something situation".. So I would probably join the mob and walk past with a dismissive shake of my head...

Quad4_72
17th September 2011, 03:52 PM
Wasn't he shouting about how the police would prosecute him for handing out flyers and then called them when the guy pushed him? I don't understand why these twoofers think these videos make them look good.

16.5
17th September 2011, 03:54 PM
Wasn't he shouting about how the police would prosecute him for handing out flyers and then called them when the guy pushed him? I don't understand why these twoofers think these videos make them look good.

Absolutely hilarious.

Police Bad!

Shove!

I'm pressing charges! Help police!

Oz1976
17th September 2011, 04:04 PM
Assaulting these morons is counter-productive, they'll only use that to their advantage (Look the sheeple attacked me), walking right past ignoring them hurts so much more. I once had some truther idiot follow me down the street yelling crap at me, just because I didn't acknowledge his pathetic existence.

I've found dying laughing in their face to be the propper response...it really get's under their skin when you completely humiliate them by just laughing at em. They're the one's that tend to lose their cool when that happens.

uke2se
17th September 2011, 04:25 PM
Did that pudgy guy with the douche beard forget his bullhorn or something? I thought the bullhorn was standard twoofer equipment.

Quad4_72
17th September 2011, 04:33 PM
Absolutely hilarious.

Police Bad!

Shove!

I'm pressing charges! Help police!

Haha. Exactly. These loons always cry "Police state!" then when they are in trouble they immediately call 911.

BStrong
17th September 2011, 04:41 PM
Did that pudgy guy with the douche beard forget his bullhorn or something? I thought the bullhorn was standard twoofer equipment.

The use of electronic amplification is forbidden.

The guy that shoved Sir Runhismouth made a stupid mistake, and Sir Runhismouth will make the most of it.

In my first hand experiences with truthers, rejecting their nonsense has enough effect, no need to lay hands on 'em.

little grey rabbit
17th September 2011, 05:12 PM
I really don't see this is such a big story. Auckland is a notoriously dangerous and violence ridden city.

15 burly Australians got mugged there last night by a bunch of Irish tourists and ran off dropping their nail-files and crying into their handbags. Its really just business as usual on the mean streets of the infamous "hell-hole of the Pacific."

Macgyver1968
17th September 2011, 05:30 PM
Dang...homeboy sure does have a set of lungs..doesn't he?...too bad it's not 200 years ago..he would have made one HELL of a town crier! :)

WildCat
17th September 2011, 05:31 PM
Dang...homeboy sure does have a set of lungs..doesn't he?...too bad it's not 200 years ago..he would have made one HELL of a town crier! :)
Oh well, these days he'll have to settle for village idiot.

George152
17th September 2011, 05:35 PM
I really don't see this is such a big story. Auckland is a notoriously dangerous and violence ridden city.


Only to fools who make such stupid statements..

they deserve all they get

George152
17th September 2011, 05:45 PM
911truther 'mrnews' yelling on the streets of auckland is attacked by a passerby!
lol.


I'd like to apologise for the actions of the 8 or 9 New Zealand mental cases you see in that video.
And to call for the police and then insult the police takes a certain amount of stupid that will, one day, have an adequate reward

little grey rabbit
17th September 2011, 05:50 PM
Only to fools who make such stupid statements..

they deserve all they get

Pffft. What sort of Kiwi ranks gloating about Truthers above enoying the discomfort of the Wallabies?

A very miserable bird, that is what. They are the snakes to our mongeese, George152, and don't go forgetting it

sheeplesnshills
17th September 2011, 06:14 PM
911truther 'mrnews' yelling on the streets of auckland is attacked by a passerby!
lol.
_PoClkCKQKw

Why are they yelling at New Zealanders?:boggled: What possible good would that do:confused:

Zowert
17th September 2011, 06:54 PM
Well I'm glad they call themselves 'conspiracy THEORISTS'. So they are clear that what they're preaching is THEORY and not fact. At least there is a little common sense left.

BaaBaa
17th September 2011, 07:04 PM
When he was bellowing for the fuzz, I couldn't help thinking he was going to begin yowling about the Violence Inherent In The System.

+1 for the 'Matrix' reference.

lionking
17th September 2011, 07:13 PM
I've found dying laughing in their face to be the propper response...it really get's under their skin when you completely humiliate them by just laughing at em. They're the one's that tend to lose their cool when that happens.

That's what I did when I walked past a pathetic group of 5 or 6 in Sydney a few years ago, and their response was the same. "Are you laughing at people dying?" was their response. I just laughed louder.

Scott Sommers
17th September 2011, 07:53 PM
LOL, here is a followup video he made.

Conspiracy Theorists ARE GOOD PEOPLE

M-f-UhRlRCw

Notice at the end of video, it's a Vincent Eastwood production.
http://www.openureyes.org.nz/blog/?q=node/3451
Vincent Eastwood Needs Financial Help
Fri, 03/11/2011 - 09:36 — smashdracs
Vinny Eastwood of www.guerillamedia.co.nz/ is about to have his Dole cut off by The Department Of Social Welfare and needs financial support to stay afloat. He has requested that we post his paypal donate button here at openUReyes so that if anyone that visits here can help him out with a few $$$ they can click and donate.


You can check out his radio show here and listen to archived shows. http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/

George152
17th September 2011, 08:03 PM
Pffft. What sort of Kiwi ranks gloating about Truthers above enoying the discomfort of the Wallabies?

A very miserable bird, that is what. They are the snakes to our mongeese, George152, and don't go forgetting it

We try not to embarrass Australians... they are more than capable of doing that to themselves..
It's something like trying to get 911 conspiracy kooks to realise that they're wrong...

cyclonic
17th September 2011, 11:10 PM
Notice at the end of video, it's a Vincent Eastwood production.
http://www.openureyes.org.nz/blog/?q=node/3451

"Vincent Eastwood Needs Financial Help
Fri, 03/11/2011 - 09:36 — smashdracs
Vinny Eastwood of www.guerillamedia.co.nz/ is about to have his Dole cut off by The Department Of Social Welfare and needs financial support to stay afloat. He has requested that we post his paypal donate button here at openUReyes so that if anyone that visits here can help him out with a few $$$ they can click and donate"


:dl:


Hilarious, a kiwi dole bludgeor living off the state trying to bring about the collapse of the facsist state that supports him, does he think a new state will pay him more for doing nothing?
twoofer comedy gold!

thanks scott!

Scott Sommers
17th September 2011, 11:51 PM
It gets even better. If you have a minute to check out Vinny's GuerillaMedia MrNews Facebook Account, you'll find he's all linked up with American guy who just the other day said that sick people should be allowed to die in the streets.

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newton3376
18th September 2011, 01:16 AM
911truther 'mrnews' yelling on the streets of auckland is attacked by a passerby!
Lol.

:newlol

cyclonic
18th September 2011, 01:45 AM
It gets even better. If you have a minute to check out Vinny's GuerillaMedia MrNews Facebook Account, you'll find he's all linked up with American guy who just the other day said that sick people should be allowed to die in the streets.

Ha ha vinnie has some sick friends,i'm going to check out some of his radio shows and have you got any idea why he was cut off from the dole?

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 01:52 AM
We try not to embarrass Australians... they are more than capable of doing that to themselves..
It's something like trying to get 911 conspiracy kooks to realise that they're wrong...
I always liked the quote attributed to David Lange. (One of NZ's Prime Ministers)

When asked about the significant number of Kiwi's moving to Australia he is alleged to have said:

"That should improve the average IQ of both countries."

That said it is wise for non Aussie non Kiwi folk to leave us settle our own rivalries. We tend to unite against common enemies. :D

911kongen
18th September 2011, 02:19 AM
911truther 'mrnews' yelling on the streets of auckland is attacked by a passerby!
lol.
_PoClkCKQKw

Well I do not support violence, BUT the guy is breaking the law, so the person gets frustrated and angry. I understand his rage, but not his actions.

little grey rabbit
18th September 2011, 03:03 AM
I always liked the quote attributed to David Lange. (One of NZ's Prime Ministers)

When asked about the significant number of Kiwi's moving to Australia he is alleged to have said:

"That should improve the average IQ of both countries."

That said it is wise for non Aussie non Kiwi folk to leave us settle our own rivalries. We tend to unite against common enemies. :D

That was Robert Muldoon as a matter of fact.

It was David Lange who said "I can almost smell the uranium on your breath."

cyclonic
18th September 2011, 03:12 AM
I always liked the quote attributed to David Lange. (One of NZ's Prime Ministers)

When asked about the significant number of Kiwi's moving to Australia he is alleged to have said:

"That should improve the average IQ of both countries."

That said it is wise for non Aussie non Kiwi folk to leave us settle our own rivalries. We tend to unite against common enemies. :D

Australia and New Zealand are close geographically and culturally and our mateship has bonded in the horiffic battlefields of france, turkey in ww1,the hell of the african deserts and the terrible pacific war against the cruel japanese empire in ww2.
we tend to let their jokes about aussies slide into the wayside because they have a hard time accepting that they are australia's 7th state. :cool:

angrysoba
18th September 2011, 03:13 AM
This is one of the funniest and yet one of the most obnoxious things I have ever seen.

Again it shows just how impossible it would be to try and parody Truther behaviour. Going out on to the street and yelling like an utter madman that New Zealand is a police state, then calling the same police for protection, then trying to insult the police, then trying to provoke his assailant.

I can't believe the guy thought this makes him look good and put it on You Tube to ensure an eternity of derisive laughter.

newton3376
18th September 2011, 03:23 AM
Truthers don't seem to understand that the reactions of most people when encountering a truther in real life include the following:

1. Mocking them
2. Ignoring them
3. Assaulting them


People typically go for one of the first two options...but every now and then a truther pisses someone off enough for option 3.

I do not endorse option 3....but I reserve the right to laugh when it occurs.

:D

little grey rabbit
18th September 2011, 03:25 AM
Australia and New Zealand are close geographically and culturally and our mateship has bonded in the horiffic battlefields of france, turkey in ww1,the hell of the african deserts and the terrible pacific war against the cruel japanese empire in ww2.
we tend to let their jokes about aussies slide into the wayside because they have a hard time accepting that they are australia's 7th state. :cool:

No, no cyclonic, you guys are too busy being America's sheriff in the Asia-Pacific to admit hoodlums like us to your federation.

Having said that one of favourite memories travelling was when I was in Georgia and had fallen into a rather heavy drinking session with some young english speakers (sort of) and an Australian fellow traveller. Georgians take their wine seriously and their drinking seriously and without any self-consciousness were proposing a series of toasts. Well, Kiwis and Aussies are not too good at proposing toasts, but suddenly inspiration struck. I had an australian 50 cent coin in my pocket, pulled it out and showed the back and said "Gentlemen, this is the Queen of Australia. I propose a toast to the Queen." Which all the Georgians thought was a wonderfully polite thing to do and boisterously raised their glasses "To the Queen of Australia." While the Australian burst out into a string of profanities.

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 03:42 AM
.... they have a hard time accepting that they are australia's 7th state. :cool: I have a tea towel which shows the north and south islands of New Zealand and also its "west islands". Together with some denigratory comments about the residents and animal fauna of those west islands.

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 03:45 AM
That was Robert Muldoon as a matter of fact...
Could be - it's funny enough for each NZ PM to repeat.

Huttosaurus
18th September 2011, 04:32 AM
I really don't see this is such a big story. Auckland is a notoriously dangerous and violence ridden city.

15 burly Australians got mugged there last night by a bunch of Irish tourists and ran off dropping their nail-files and crying into their handbags. Its really just business as usual on the mean streets of the infamous "hell-hole of the Pacific."

Actually, the "hell hole of the Pacific" wasn't Auckland but a place about a hundred miles further north called Kororareka. Go on, try to pronounce it. As for the "notoriously dangerous and violence ridden", lols. So dangerous our cops don't routinely carry side-arms. I've never seen anyone on any MB turn ignorance into an art form with the amount of skill you do.

ETA bit about Police Weaponry.

Huttosaurus
18th September 2011, 04:34 AM
Could be - it's funny enough for each NZ PM to repeat.

It was, meaning amazingly that lgr was accurate about something for once.

Huttosaurus
18th September 2011, 04:40 AM
I've never met one in real life.

It sounds quaint to my Aussie ears to hear New Zulland eccents in a typical Kiwi setting mouthing stock standard US truther stupidities.



Interesting thing about that is that compared to the discussions that go on here at JREF, the standard of "9/11 Truth" discussion on one prominent local MB (Trademe O+P for any locals reading) and on news comments threads appears to be a few years behind the times in terms of what is actually being alleged. Stuff that seems to have been discarded by many truthers here is still valid argument there. Either that or everyone is collectively taking the mickey.

little grey rabbit
18th September 2011, 04:51 AM
Actually, the "hell hole of the Pacific" wasn't Auckland but a place about a hundred miles further north called Kororareka. Go on, try to pronounce it. As for the "notoriously dangerous and violence ridden", lols. So dangerous our cops don't routinely carry side-arms. I've never seen anyone on any MB turn ignorance into an art form with the amount of skill you do.
.


Huttosaurus, I spend a good amount of my online time telling Americans they don't get irony.

Please don't embarrass me in front of them.



PS Everything north of the Bombay Hills is a bit of blur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q25aJ6UNvhw

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 04:56 AM
Interesting thing about that is that compared to the discussions that go on here at JREF, the standard of "9/11 Truth" discussion on one prominent local MB (Trademe O+P for any locals reading) and on news comments threads appears to be a few years behind the times in terms of what is actually being alleged. Stuff that seems to have been discarded by many truthers here is still valid argument there. Either that or everyone is collectively taking the mickey.
My experience is mainly US centric boards - about 15000 posts on Richard Dawkins net before it folded - maybe half of those on 9/11 where I was the leading technical contributor - the only admitted engineer on the debunker side - then Rationalskepticism which sort of took over plus recent activity here.

Neither has had much real discussion in the last say two years - all the real issues dealt with long ago. A bit of a revival following Jones invention of the ThermXte issue - his attempt to restore his failing image and market share. People seem to enjoy the technical discussions. I tend to go straight to the bottom line on that one. It would mean nothing if there had been a 100ton cache of ThermXte found on GZ. There was no demolition therefore ThermXte wasn't used. So whether the dust was thermXte or not is a red herring.

Not really surprising that a local board would be behind the times - I would have to read it and possibly take part to gain any understanding of the reasons.

as for taking the Mickey - nobody called me on my comment about "New Zulland eccents" :o

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 05:00 AM
Huttosaurus, I spend a good amount of my online time telling Americans they don't get irony....
...or analogies
.....or 'extracting michael' type humour
......or (several more....)

Huttosaurus
18th September 2011, 05:03 AM
as for taking the Mickey - nobody called me on my comment about "New Zulland eccents" :o

That's because you're saying it properly :) I had a hilarious experience ordering Fish and Chips in Geelong once...

ozeco41
18th September 2011, 05:15 AM
That's because you're saying it properly :) I had a hilarious experience ordering Fish and Chips in Geelong once...
I'd better not go there. Even now we may need to write a glossary for UK, US, CA and other folk.

I was born in north of England - came to Aussie at 11 years. So living with different dialects was part of my bringing up - contrast with both AU and NZ which have very little dialectic differences within each country.

I find it amusing when Aussies rubbish Kiwis for pronunciation. Kiwi vowels are pure even if "shuffted" a bit. whilst Aussies murder every vowel - tending to make every vowel into a diphthong or more likely a triphthong.

Took me years to learn to say "raa...eee...uul waaa...eee...iii lor een" when I meant railway line.

Meanwhile, back on the topic......

atavisms
18th September 2011, 05:36 AM
"My opinion is not uninformed there are just many things I have no clue about." -atavisms

Hey,, Many thanks for that.. I wish more people would do the same
^^

Of course there are many elements of these events that I/we can have no clue about how exactly they were carried out. But if we just look at what we do know, the evidence points overwhelmingly in one direction: explosive demolition at wtc 1 2 & 7

How anyone can doubt that exotic energetic material must have been involved after looking at the anomalous features of these events, is simply beyond me

WildCat
18th September 2011, 07:36 AM
But if we just look at what we do know, the evidence points overwhelmingly in one direction: explosive demolition at wtc 1 2 & 7
Odd, after 10 years no truther has been able to present any such evidence. Maybe you just forgot? Or are you confusing an argument from ignorance and personal incredulity with actual evidence?

Dog Town
18th September 2011, 07:49 AM
Or are you confusing an argument from ignorance and personal incredulity with actual evidence?

My money is on this one.

JohnG
18th September 2011, 09:00 AM
+1 for the 'Matrix' reference.


Ah yes, the disdain for the sleepwalking "sheeple". Anyone who hasn't woken up to "THE TRUTH" is a potential enemy. "If you're not with us, you're against us". What former leader famously expressed that sentiment in the last ten years?


Huttosaurus, I spend a good amount of my online time telling Americans they don't get irony.


Oh, LGR, you puckish gadfly, you. What would we do without you? I'm guessing we'd probably get used to it. What would you do without all the attention, though? That's the question.



BTW, all this New Zealand vs. Australia rivalry is absolutely riveting.


How's that for irony?

George152
18th September 2011, 02:02 PM
A

BTW, all this New Zealand vs. Australia rivalry is absolutely riveting.


How's that for irony?

Well nowadays iron is welded in the advanced countries.
Riveting went down with the titanic

DGM
18th September 2011, 02:08 PM
Well nowadays iron is welded in the advanced countries.
Riveting went down with the titanic
Strictly speaking, advanced counties use steel, not iron for building...


:boxedin:

little grey rabbit
18th September 2011, 04:38 PM
Ah yes, the disdain for the sleepwalking "sheeple". Anyone who hasn't woken up to "THE TRUTH" is a potential enemy. "If you're not with us, you're against us". What former leader famously expressed that sentiment in the last ten years?





Oh, LGR, you puckish gadfly, you. What would we do without you? I'm guessing we'd probably get used to it. What would you do without all the attention, though? That's the question.



BTW, all this New Zealand vs. Australia rivalry is absolutely riveting.


How's that for irony?

Not ironical at all (as far as I can tell). It is a pun, perhaps a pun with a bit sarcasm woven in (although I don't see why anyone would be sarcastic - I mean it IS riveting!), as puns go its not too bad in the context.

Orphia Nay
19th September 2011, 02:00 AM
Australia and New Zealand are close geographically and culturally and our mateship has bonded in the horiffic battlefields of france, turkey in ww1,the hell of the african deserts and the terrible pacific war against the cruel japanese empire in ww2.
we tend to let their jokes about aussies slide into the wayside because they have a hard time accepting that they are australia's 7th state. :cool:

This. :D

This is one of the funniest and yet one of the most obnoxious things I have ever seen.

Again it shows just how impossible it would be to try and parody Truther behaviour. Going out on to the street and yelling like an utter madman that New Zealand is a police state, then calling the same police for protection, then trying to insult the police, then trying to provoke his assailant.

I can't believe the guy thought this makes him look good and put it on You Tube to ensure an eternity of derisive laughter.

And that! :newlol

Orphia Nay
19th September 2011, 02:05 AM
My experience is mainly US centric boards - about 15000 posts on Richard Dawkins net before it folded - maybe half of those on 9/11 where I was the leading technical contributor - the only admitted engineer on the debunker side - then Rationalskepticism which sort of took over plus recent activity here.

Neither has had much real discussion in the last say two years - all the real issues dealt with long ago. A bit of a revival following Jones invention of the ThermXte issue - his attempt to restore his failing image and market share. People seem to enjoy the technical discussions. I tend to go straight to the bottom line on that one. It would mean nothing if there had been a 100ton cache of ThermXte found on GZ. There was no demolition therefore ThermXte wasn't used. So whether the dust was thermXte or not is a red herring.

Not really surprising that a local board would be behind the times - I would have to read it and possibly take part to gain any understanding of the reasons.

as for taking the Mickey - nobody called me on my comment about "New Zulland eccents" :o

We haven't had any truthers at the Australasian Skeptics Forum (link being pimped in my sig), but we've had a number of topics scoffing at them. :)

little grey rabbit
19th September 2011, 02:13 AM
We haven't had any truthers at the Australasian Skeptics Forum (link being pimped in my sig), but we've had a number of topics scoffing at them. :)

If you need someone to come along and pimp your forum up a bit Orphia, you need only ask....

Actually while NZ has never been a police state [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXut2nDaFKg ], we have always been very cooperative with Echelon -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCSB_Waihopai

Even David Lange, always good with a quip, could not free us of that US imposed incubus.
Caygill writes that the ambassador said the head of the CIA was also concerned. He had considered what action should be taken, and had asked whether he should get tough with New Zealand.

The ambassador also told Caygill Lange had upset the US further when, in response to threats that the flow of intelligence from the US would be cut off, he replied "that would give more time to do the crossword".

In another letter a fortnight later, Lange's chief of staff, John Henderson, said he also lunched with the ambassador, who raised the same issues "and it was difficult not to reach the same conclusions as Caygill reached".

"When I asked him directly whether he was saying that if there was a breakdown in our relations, the US would conduct intelligence operations against us he said he did not know," Henderson writes.

I believe 6 months later or so a ship blew up in Auckland harbour and no one, least of all the Australians (or their Norfolk Island off-shoots), proved very helpful in extraditing the culprits.

Perhaps we should have pinned it on the Libyans instead?

ozeco41
19th September 2011, 02:27 AM
We haven't had any truthers at the Australasian Skeptics Forum (link being pimped in my sig), but we've had a number of topics scoffing at them. :)
I keep repeating that we have no truthers here - and getting ignored by both sides. :rolleyes: IMNSHO they are (nearly) all mere trolls. You look - I'll point. ;)

A few genuine discussion threads aside most threads here after the first handful of on topic posts descend into bi-directional trolling (My new term :) )

Around 2006-7 into 2008 we had genuine truthers and genuine sceptics coming to these forums.

Aside from a few threads there is little genuine scepticism being displayed. Part of the answer is that all the questions have been answered and most genuine sceptics have received and apparently been satisfied with the answers they were given. That was certainly my experience on the Dawkins' forum through 2007/8 but the supply of genuine sceptics (Or genuine truthers ) had fallen off to near zero by 2009.

So I would hazard a guess that there is little for a genuine truther to take to your Aust Sceptics Forum. And the sort of trolls we get here and misname "truther" need some frustrated by boredom debunkers that they can goad into responding. Not that most need much goading. You wouldn't have the bored but familiar with the truther canard debunkers on your forum so little point in any of our trolls trying the trolling game on your board.


PS I wrote this before I saw LGR's post for those who see the little bit of different perspective.