View Full Version : Where are you on the Political Spectrum?
Theodore Kurita
26th April 2004, 08:29 PM
It's been a while since I have fired one of these off.
There have been more people joining the forums and I am wanting to get a good data sample on where everybody stands politically.
It apease ShaneK and not get this thread hijacked, I am also posting the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
I personally think the Political Compass is more accurate... but I don't want a derailing so I will just leave it at that.
Let the data Role in:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html <---World's Smallest Political Quiz
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=1 <----- The Political Compass Test
So you know how I scored.
On the World's Smallest Political Quiz:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s100_000.gif
On the Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.10
American
26th April 2004, 08:39 PM
Ideas are right or wrong (or both), and no 2-dimensional map can describe them.
This is contrived BS made up by political science professors to convince people that there is no right or wrong, only relative perspective.
It's tripe.
Dorian Gray
26th April 2004, 09:04 PM
Maybe that's the problem - he/she is thinking two-dimensionally.
American
26th April 2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Dorian Gray
Maybe that's the problem - he/she is thinking two-dimensionally.
No! I am right.
aerocontrols
26th April 2004, 09:30 PM
Four degrees past top dead center.
epepke
26th April 2004, 10:20 PM
On that one, I'm right on the edge where Left Liberal meets Libertarian.
Troll
26th April 2004, 10:41 PM
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s050_070.gif
Economic Left/Right: 3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05
Mr Manifesto
27th April 2004, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by American
Ideas are right or wrong (or both), and no 2-dimensional map can describe them.
This is contrived BS made up by political science professors to convince people that there is no right or wrong, only relative perspective.
It's tripe.
So, what's the test for whether an idea is right or wrong?
Quasi
27th April 2004, 12:51 AM
I do not really see how astrology plays into politics, as Ronald Reagan and other right-Republicans often consult one for decision making, and I know lots of left hippy types that are also hard core astrology folks. I also felt that a lot of the questions were loaded (corporations deystroying the environment,) and or dumbed down questions, or deliberately insulting questions such as the one on racial purity. In the end the feeling I get is that they just spit out a vague astrology reading, and dress it up in political terms. Anyone else feel this way? I scored -2, -3, centrist on the compass and extreme leftist on the small quiz.
a_unique_person
27th April 2004, 01:54 AM
My Score
Brian the Snail
27th April 2004, 02:40 AM
I'm on the top left-hand corner of the central square. Very similar position on the political compass link:
Economic left/right: 1.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
EGarrett
27th April 2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
So, what's the test for whether an idea is right or wrong?
I second this question, American, what is the objective test for deciding whether something is right or wrong?
shemp
27th April 2004, 04:08 AM
Ok I took this silly quiz and scored right about where I thought I would. But I don't think a ten question quiz is sufficient to determine one's political leanings. One's answers could change based on circumstances.
For example, the question on drugs is too broad. I favor legalization of marijuana, with the same restrictions for use of alcohol; but I don't favor legalization of other drugs. I think answering "maybe" is wishy-washy, and covers too wide a range of opinions.
Mr Manifesto
27th April 2004, 05:09 AM
Economic left/right: 10
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 10
That, I did not expect.
Interesting Ian
27th April 2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by shemp
Ok I took this silly quiz and scored right about where I thought I would. But I don't think a ten question quiz is sufficient to determine one's political leanings. One's answers could change based on circumstances.
For example, the question on drugs is too broad. I favor legalization of marijuana, with the same restrictions for use of alcohol; but I don't favor legalization of other drugs. I think answering "maybe" is wishy-washy, and covers too wide a range of opinions.
Hmmm . .I agree. Anyway, here is what I got.
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s080_000.gif
And in the longer quiz I got
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
The diametric opposite of Margaret Thatcher which I'm delighted about! :)
Reginald
27th April 2004, 06:16 AM
Apparently I'm sort of leftist libertarian. But to me that just says that the questions asked did not cover a broad enough spectrum.
I have found many ideas suggested by the right to be good common sense ideas, in the same way I have with the left. I also saw a couple of questions there that I really would have answered "Dont really care either way" and that was not an option, I could agree or disagree and thats rather black and white.
Mr Manifesto
27th April 2004, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by Reginald
Apparently I'm sort of leftist libertarian. But to me that just says that the questions asked did not cover a broad enough spectrum.
I have found many ideas suggested by the right to be good common sense ideas, in the same way I have with the left. I also saw a couple of questions there that I really would have answered "Dont really care either way" and that was not an option, I could agree or disagree and thats rather black and white.
Although I didn't answer the questions seriously, some seemed to be a little woolly to me. Such as, 'although a woman is entitled to a career, her first priority should be as a homemaker' (or words to that effect): strongly disagree, disagree, agree, strongly agree.
Now, what do you answer if you don't think she's entitled to a career at all? Or if you think, for whatever reason, that she shouldn't be a homemaker at all (I say 'for whatever reason' because I haven't come across anyone with this particular view, but it's a big, wide world out there)?
Several questions seem to have this flaw- they have two components, which makes it difficult to answer since you may not be clear on what you are 'agreeing' or 'disagreeing' to.
UndercoverElephant
27th April 2004, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by American
No! I am right.
You are always wrong.
PygmyPlaidGiraffe
27th April 2004, 06:44 AM
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21
I found a lot of the questions to be extreme, and seemed to be false dichotomies. I am not too sure I got any value out of this test.
Kodiak
27th April 2004, 06:51 AM
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s050_080.gif
Economic Left/Right: 4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
Smike
27th April 2004, 06:52 AM
WSPQ : centrist (a bit to the left)
Compass: Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64
I suppose i'm roughly happy with the current system, with maybe a few changes.
The WSPQ questions are hard for a non-american, like the drugs stuff, which is obviously a big issue in the US.
Maybe i didn't gain anything from the test, but online tests generally don't produce anything meaningful, especially the short ones.
Perhaps it just made me feel happy in myself.
edited to add:
I suppose it's a bit like the IQ tests
Tmy
27th April 2004, 07:00 AM
Weird. Im like dead center authoritarian. 20/20.
Evolver
27th April 2004, 07:30 AM
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Gee. I'm honored. It places me right between Ganddhi & Nelson Mandela. I guess it doesn't know about my dark side. :D
charley_bigtime
27th April 2004, 09:03 AM
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s070_070.gif
That confuses the hell outta me. Thought I would be a bit further to the right.
Hmmmm..
Mr Manifesto
27th April 2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
So, what's the test for whether an idea is right or wrong?
While you're here, American...
UserGoogol
27th April 2004, 02:25 PM
American, you ignorant slut, wouldn't you agree that not only are there different degrees of wrong people, but also different kinds of wrong people.
So this chart is useful. Although I like Political Compass's method for putting you on the Nolan Chart more.
At any rate...
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/s090_030.gif
Mr Manifesto
27th April 2004, 02:45 PM
Goshers... American has run off with his tail between his leg like a little yellow coward. Imagine that.
uruk
27th April 2004, 04:15 PM
Great, I'm centrist bordering on libritarian and have a moderate leftists libritarian political leaning.
It's nice to see I'm in the same corner as Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and the Dali Lama
Theodore Kurita
27th April 2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by uruk
Great, I'm centrist bordering on libritarian and have a moderate leftists libritarian political leaning.
It's nice to see I'm in the same corner as Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and the Dali Lama
Same here.
However, I am even further Left than Mandela, Ghandi, and the Dali Lama.
I think it is because I have no problem with Porn and Drugs being freely avaliable.
That, and I am a pacisifist. I have always liked the ideals of Civil Disobedience represented by Mandela and Ghandi in the first place.
American
27th April 2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by UserGoogol
American, you ignorant slut, wouldn't you agree that not only are there different degrees of wrong people, but also different kinds of wrong people.
So this chart is useful.
Useful to limit your views, force a view that NORMAL postions are actually "extreme", place you in groups that conflict both within and between.
Why do you feel a need to label yourself using this silly scheme? Wow, 2 whole factors taken 2 different ways, so we get to choose from 4 different corners! And if I don't fit in with one of them, then I must be "centrist".
Sheep.
Theodore Kurita
27th April 2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by American
Useful to limit your views, force a view that NORMAL postions are actually "extreme", place you in groups that conflict both within and between.
Why do you feel a need to label yourself using this silly scheme? Wow, 2 whole factors taken 2 different ways, so we get to choose from 4 different corners! And if I don't fit in with one of them, then I must be "centrist".
Sheep.
I see you are back to trolling again American, then again I can't think of a point when you haven't done excessive trolling on these forums.
You are just basically stating an ad hominem and attempting to create a very basic, easy to burn, strawman.
Have a nice day realizing that you have just violated Skeptic Rule #1, avoid logical fallacies.
American
27th April 2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Theodore Kurita
I see you are back to trolling again American, then again I can't think of a point when you haven't done excessive trolling on these forums.
You are just basically stating an ad hominem and attempting to create a very basic, easy to burn, strawman.
Have a nice day realizing that you have just violated Skeptic Rule #1, avoid logical fallacies.
I can also convince one that idiot-ideas are normal. Like the one you just posted.
Theodore Kurita
27th April 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by American
I can also convince one that idiot-ideas are normal. Like the one you just posted.
Again, just a flat out Ad Hominem.
I could play ping pong with you "American" all day at this rate.
Guess I won't be feeding your trollish urges for quite some time now
Have a nice day.
American
27th April 2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Theodore Kurita
Again, just a flat out Ad Hominem.
I could play ping pong with you "American" all day at this rate.
Guess I won't be feeding your trollish urges for quite some time now
Have a ncie day.
Last word.
homo say last word.
homo say last word.
Virgil
27th April 2004, 06:50 PM
nearly dead on center.
and just right of ghandi.
virgil
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