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I Ratant
17th October 2011, 10:55 AM
I was taken by the professions of faith in god by the survivors of the victims of the Seal Beach murders in the LA Times today..
And responded... I don't expect to see this published anytime soon. :)
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"The horrors of the Seal Beach murders can't be diminished, but why exacerbate them by attributing them to God?
For a "mysterious way", 8 murders are certainly that, and difficult to impute to anything more than a deranged person.
No supernatural prodding or intervention needed.
There are just as horrible murders going on today around the world in Africa and Asia.
Does God get credit for these also?
One might say "Yes", as too many of these are bound in the religions of the areas.
Why in the 21st Century do we need to invoke a Stone Age superstition to alleviate what is merely man's inhumanity to man?
What lesson is there in Seal Beach?
That those 8 needed to die for a reason "unknowable to man"?
Are those deaths any different than those listed in the Book of Job, where innocent people die and loathsome things happen to one guy, due to a -bet-?!!!
The All-knowing, All-loving, God -bets- with Satan that Job will remain faithful despite the horrors visited him and his family.
This is not All-loving, it is sadism.
And God finds someone on Earth to relate the story to, for bragging rights.
It's no different than the story of the Flood, where the All-knowing decides He's really screwed it up, and kills everything on Earth, except for a family that rides out the situation on a raft, with a few chickens and goats.
More sadism.
That so many people have enough self-hatred to accept these monstrous actions by a sadist as right and proper is appalling.
Why Stone Age myths are accepted today without examining the human basis for all of them...
why is that?
We know enough about how people work and malfunction to see the flaws in humanity, there's no need to invoke the supernatural and "mysterious ways" to comprehend the sources and the cures for our problems. "

korenyx
17th October 2011, 02:12 PM
Where does God even come in to this? The guy didn't want his ex-wife to have their son so he's charged with shooting her and several other people. Do people really think God would want a child to lose his mother because his father shot her?

I Ratant
17th October 2011, 02:28 PM
They're not thinking at all!
"I don't know why god makes us suffer." Msgr. Heber.
"I asked god for understanding and peace, and he gave it to me".. M. Sosa.
Psalm 90..."You sweep away men in the sleep of death...Why, god, why?."Pastor Shoemaker.
Goddit, obviously.
And everyone concerned will be better for it. 8 of them dead, but they'll be in "glory".

madurobob
17th October 2011, 03:07 PM
Maybe Fed Phelps will show up with "God Hates Hairdressers" pickets...

Jon.
17th October 2011, 03:24 PM
Don't give him any ideas!

Skeptic Ginger
17th October 2011, 04:24 PM
Seal Beach is where my Mom used to take us as kids. I love that beach....

Sorry, carry on.

citizenzen
17th October 2011, 04:27 PM
God wants everyone to carry.