3 point versus 4 point crucifixion desecration rituals

[little grey rabbit]

I am really interested in the views of those well informed in matters of Satanic ritual and am not interested in a flame war with Christians (sorry, guys but you have lost so badly your views are irrelevant).

Does anyone have opinion on whether a three point or a four a point crucifixion desecration ritual is superior? And is the efficacy of the ritual diminished if there is a considerable time delay in completing the various points.

London 2005, our Illuminati friends completed a fairly standard 4 point crucifix with the underground bombings and the execution of Jean-Charles de Menezes at Stockwell

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1015/7julylondonbombingsloca.jpg

The Menezes killing being necessitated by the failure of one of the Metro bombers to be able to read a timetable.

Whereas our American friends went for what I think is the more innovative 3 points "Nail" ritual - WTC 1 and WTC 2 being the wrist nails and WTC 7 being intended as the ankles. Alas, another balls-up with a tarmac delay meant Flight 93 had to bail and WTC-7 was brought down without the requisite human sacrifice. After a bit of humming and ha-ing it was decided at least some kind of human sacrifice was needed for the ritual to be completed and anthrax letters to the Morgan Post center in Manhattan were felt to provide a suitable substitute - although again I am sceptical, both with the location choice and the time delay.

Would any Illuminati like to venture an opinion here? Is a 3 point ritual superior or inferior to a 4 point ritual? And what are the time limits permissible to complete the points?

Please serious answers only - no trolling and no flaming.

Thank you.

[Mashuna]

I think asking for no trolling is a bit late, given the contents of your opening post.

[little grey rabbit]

I think asking for no trolling is a bit late, given the contents of your opening post.

I don't see why. I am not Illuminati myself, but that does not mean I can't appreciate and respect their religious fervour and passion.

In the same way despite not being a Buddhist I am more than happy to have a bit of a natter regarding the 3 Marks of Existence or the 4 Noble Truths.

[Supermeerkat]

Why is that the Illuminanti are compelled to work occult / bizarre symbolism into everything they do?

[Aepervius]

I think asking for no trolling is a bit late, given the contents of your opening post.

You are one step above me , maybe it is my English skill , but i haven't understood what the claim of the opening post is. Crucifixtion of a city ??

[arthwollipot]

Let's have even a single scrap of evidence that the Illuminati actually exists, and then we can speculate about their methods.

[little grey rabbit]

Why is that the Illuminanti are compelled to work occult / bizarre symbolism into everything they do?

Beats me. Thats why I am sodding well asking them.

I am hoping a bit of flattery "genuine religious fervour" etc etc might help prompt a bit of loquaciousness

[yodaluver28]

Beats me. Thats why I am sodding well asking them.

I am hoping a bit of flattery "genuine religious fervour" etc etc might help prompt a bit of loquaciousness


1) The Illuminati doesn't exist and hasn't for hundreds of years. Nor is there any other grand international criminal conspiracy behind every single major event that goes on in the world.

2) If there were some grand international criminal conspiracy to rule the world and maintain control of it, they wouldn't let their plans get tripped up or revealed by stupid little superstitions the likes so of which only the most delusional conspiracy loons can dream up.

3) If there were some grand international criminal conspiracy bent on world domination via absurd occult ritual, why on earth would they be trolling this message board and be willing to answer a question that might reveal the boogeyman behind the curtain? :rolleyes:

PS, you do realize that you can create angles and shapes on a map by drawing straight lines between any handful of random locations...right?

[little grey rabbit]

1) The Illuminati doesn't exist and hasn't for hundreds of years. Nor is there any other grand international criminal conspiracy behind every single major event that goes on in the world.



How can you be sure? If it is a secret organisation then the only way you could be certain of its existential nature is if you belonged to it - at which point you have an incentive to deny its existence.

These two statements could be true
"I don't know if the Illuminati exist or not"
"I know the Illuminati exist"
But this, logically, must be false:
"I know the Illuminati don't exist."

[Akhenaten]

PS, you do realize that you can create angles and shapes on a map by drawing straight lines between any handful of random locations...right?





Aussinati.


http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/HostedStuff/MysticMap.jpg

[little grey rabbit]

Robe River is a river in the Pilbara region of Western Australia.

The headwaters of the river rise in the Hamersley Range near Marana Spring then flow in a north westerly direction past the Robe River-Deepdale mine, crossing the North West Coastal Highway near the Pannawonica turnoff then discharging into the Indian Ocean near Robe Point.

Robe river has two tributaries; Mungarathoona Creek and Kumina Creek.

By the way, that was a fairly quick one-two between Akhenaten and Yodaluver - I hope there has been no naughty confabulations behind the scenes.

[Evolved Wookie]

Between three and four point, three is preferable, as the reduced number of loci concentrates the residual effects into a relatively high flux. However, notably, a five point ritual is currently under examination, with the fifth loci in the ‘heart’ position – i.e. in the middle. Here the semi-stable vortex created by the four outer loci is collapsed into the fifth, resulting in a 90%-95% flux concentration at the heart.

This may, or may not, all be lies.

[akama1]

Aussinati.


http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/HostedStuff/MysticMap.jpg

Sweatest thing I've seen all day. Kudos

[little grey rabbit]

Between three and four point, three is preferable, as the reduced number of loci concentrates the residual effects into a relatively high flux. However, notably, a five point ritual is currently under examination, with the fifth loci in the ‘heart’ position – i.e. in the middle. Here the semi-stable vortex created by the four outer loci is collapsed into the fifth, resulting in a 90%-95% flux concentration at the heart.

This may, or may not, all be lies.

Finally!
One vote for a 3 Pointer.

Brother: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

[Supermeerkat]

PS, you do realize that you can create angles and shapes on a map by drawing straight lines between any handful of random locations...right?

But it takes a dedicated and fearless investigator to understand the true meaning of those angles and shapes.

[Evolved Wookie]

But it takes a dedicated and fearless investigator to understand the true meaning of those angles and shapes.

I once mapped the last 1313 instances of sweeties stolen from ugly children under 25 months old within the area of Greater London.

Indisputably, the data delineated an image of a Moomin. Understand that!

[arthwollipot]

How can you be sure? If it is a secret organisation then the only way you could be certain of its existential nature is if you belonged to it - at which point you have an incentive to deny its existence.

These two statements could be true
"I don't know if the Illuminati exist or not"
"I know the Illuminati exist"
But this, logically, must be false:
"I know the Illuminati don't exist."Okay, so the fact that there is no evidence of their existence is evidence of their existence?

You do realise that this argument can also be used as evidence of leprechauns, aliens and dragons?

Think: If you were a dragon, you'd be very keen on concealing your existence, right? So the fact that there's no evidence that you're a dragon is clearly evidence of how good you are at concealing your identity as a dragon. So clearly you are a dragon.

[little grey rabbit]

Okay, so the fact that there is no evidence of their existence is evidence of their existence?

You do realise that this argument can also be used as evidence of leprechauns, aliens and dragons?

Think: If you were a dragon, you'd be very keen on concealing your existence, right? So the fact that there's no evidence that you're a dragon is clearly evidence of how good you are at concealing your identity as a dragon. So clearly you are a dragon.

No that was not my logic. What you might say is that you have thus far presented no grounds for concluding I am not a dragon, such as (for example) the difficulty dragons would have manipulating a keyboard.

In any case I was just pointing out the difference between saying "there is no evidence that the Illuminati exist" and "I know the Illuminati don't exist." - as I said before the only person who can be certain of the existential nature of the Illuminati is a member of the Illuminati. Whereas any individual should be able to determine whether or not they are a dragon or an Illuminatus.

[Evolved Wookie]

The secret there, y'see, is the Logitech DK-31 "Drakey" keyboard, especially (secretly) designed and made for draconic users. Along with the DM-15 mouse, all but the most excessively large and battle-armoured chaos-drakes can easily use a computer.

[little grey rabbit]

The secret there, y'see, is the Logitech DK-31 "Drakey" keyboard, especially (secretly) designed and made for draconic users. Along with the DM-15 mouse, all but the most excessively large and battle-armoured chaos-drakes can easily use a computer.

I was thinking that perhaps Dragons had evolved some of these mind-computer interactions we occasionally hear that the US airforce is working on.

[aggle-rithm]

I am not Illuminati myself,

Oh, good, because that would mean you've been dead for centuries, and would present a major problem with your credibility.

That is, a GREATER problem than you already have.

[aggle-rithm]

Whereas any individual should be able to determine whether or not they are a dragon or an Illuminatus.

Not if they have certain mental illnesses.

[Evolved Wookie]

Nah - draconic natural bone armour is conductive, crating a natural Faraday cage around the animal's body. You can't read their brains without drilling through the skull and, unsurprisingly, they don't stand for that.

This is fun! I can keep making this stuff up all day...

[arthwollipot]

No that was not my logic. What you might say is that you have thus far presented no grounds for concluding I am not a dragon, such as (for example) the difficulty dragons would have manipulating a keyboard.

In any case I was just pointing out the difference between saying "there is no evidence that the Illuminati exist" and "I know the Illuminati don't exist." - as I said before the only person who can be certain of the existential nature of the Illuminati is a member of the Illuminati. Whereas any individual should be able to determine whether or not they are a dragon or an Illuminatus.Which is still not evidence that they exist. My point is that saying 'you can't prove they don't exist' is not proof that they do exist.

I'm sorry, I'm derailing your thread. Not that your thread had a rail to begin with...

[little grey rabbit]

Which is still not evidence that they exist. My point is that saying 'you can't prove they don't exist' is not proof that they do exist.

.

You would have a valid point if I had ever said that this was a proof of their existence - but I never said that.

So you constructed a strawman and then preceded to make a stunning number of logical howlers in trying to demolish you own creation.

All I said is the only person in a position to make a definitive statement regarding the existence of the Illuminati is a member of the Illuminati. From this we can only conclude that any person who says the Illuminati does not exist is either an illogical imbecile or an Illuminatus.

But probably both.

And that IS logic.

[arthwollipot]

You would have a valid point if I had ever said that this was a proof of their existence - but I never said that. Your OP assumed their existence.

[arthwollipot]

London 2005, our Illuminati friends completed a fairly standard 4 point crucifix...Assuming that 'our Illuminati friends' exist and are capable of completing a fairly standard whatever.

Would any Illuminati like to venture an opinion here?Assuming, furthermore, not only that the Illluminati exist, but that members of the Illuminati post on this very forum and can provide you with a direct response.

Like I said, let's have some evidence that they exist, then we can start addressing them directly.

[RenaissanceBiker]

I am really interested in the views of those well informed in matters of Satanic ritual and am not interested in a flame war with Christians (sorry, guys but you have lost so badly your views are irrelevant).

Does anyone have opinion on whether a three point or a four a point crucifixion desecration ritual is superior? And is the efficacy of the ritual diminished if there is a considerable time delay in completing the various points.
Serious answer. All satanic rituals are equally ineffective except to those who perform them. It doesn't matter who you pray to or how you do it. They are superstitions and are only meaningful in the minds of those who do them. Knowing that, if a ritual performer believes one ritual is more effective than another then it will be more effective at inducing the desired mental state in the participant(s). Since prayers and rituals have no physical effect on the world around us, there is nothing to measure and compare.

I intentionally did not address the issue of whether the events you mentioned actually were part of any ritual.

[MRC_Hans]

I am really interested in the views of those well informed in matters of Satanic ritual and am not interested in a flame war with Christians (sorry, guys but you have lost so badly your views are irrelevant).

Does anyone have opinion on whether a three point or a four a point crucifixion desecration ritual is superior? And is the efficacy of the ritual diminished if there is a considerable time delay in completing the various points.

London 2005, our Illuminati friends completed a fairly standard 4 point crucifix with the underground bombings and the execution of Jean-Charles de Menezes at Stockwell

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1015/7julylondonbombingsloca.jpg

The Menezes killing being necessitated by the failure of one of the Metro bombers to be able to read a timetable.

Whereas our American friends went for what I think is the more innovative 3 points "Nail" ritual - WTC 1 and WTC 2 being the wrist nails and WTC 7 being intended as the ankles. Alas, another balls-up with a tarmac delay meant Flight 93 had to bail and WTC-7 was brought down without the requisite human sacrifice. After a bit of humming and ha-ing it was decided at least some kind of human sacrifice was needed for the ritual to be completed and anthrax letters to the Morgan Post center in Manhattan were felt to provide a suitable substitute - although again I am sceptical, both with the location choice and the time delay.

Would any Illuminati like to venture an opinion here? Is a 3 point ritual superior or inferior to a 4 point ritual? And what are the time limits permissible to complete the points?

Please serious answers only - no trolling and no flaming.

Thank you.

Nah, you miss the Pentagon. The real goal was to symbolize a hexagram, but as you know one plane failed, so it didn't quite work out. The symbolism would have been lost on outsiders anyway, so there was no patching. If you figure out the hexagram, you will understand why (hint: Time dimension).

The anthrax was an unrelated mission, do you think we are so single-tracked?

The London bombings were performed by an apocryphal branch so I can't be sure of the symbolism, but you probably need to see it in connection with Madrid.

Anyhow, crucifixes are entirely out of the question. We have not supported crucifixions since AD33.

I hope this helps.

Hans

[Evolved Wookie]

Apocryphal?

Just because we're outside of the good ole USofA doesn't make us Apocryphal. We were secretly running the world when your little country was still in short trousers! We might put our brain-control powder into tea-bags rather than cheeseburgers, but underneath it all, we work for the same demonic Over-Sub-Entity.

[Almo]

LGR: you would love The Time Rivers (http://www.goroadachi.com/timerivers/).

[dlorde]

Wouldn't this thread be better suited to the 'Conspiracy Theories' forum?

[Akhenaten]

Wouldn't this thread be better suited to the 'Conspiracy Theories' forum?





I'm thinking the David Icke forum might be even better, but I'm not sure our mods can manage that big a move.

Which is a pity because there are few other threads in need of similar treatment.

[MRC_Hans]

Apocryphal?

Just because we're outside of the good ole USofA doesn't make us Apocryphal. We were secretly running the world when your little country was still in short trousers! We might put our brain-control powder into tea-bags rather than cheeseburgers, but underneath it all, we work for the same demonic Over-Sub-Entity.Excuse me, but it is not my expression. Did you not attend the 2009 rally? If you did, you would know there is nothing derogatory in the expression. I'm not in the US branch myself, but LGR seems to take special interest in the US, for some reason, so I tried to reply in turn.

We all know the restrictions we have to work under, in a semi-public place like this.

Hans

[Philosaur]

I am really interested in the views of those well informed in matters of Satanic ritual and am not interested in a flame war with Christians (sorry, guys but you have lost so badly your views are irrelevant).

<snip>

Would any Illuminati like to venture an opinion here? Is a 3 point ritual superior or inferior to a 4 point ritual? And what are the time limits permissible to complete the points?

Please serious answers only - no trolling and no flaming.

Thank you.

It's well known that the Illuminati sought to harness the arcane powers of the demon-sorceror Ssolgnap. They prepared for years; searched for, found, and assembled the chthonian apparatus needed to bind the demon and prevent it from shredding their very souls.

When finally their mad evolutions were complete, they called forth to the underworld with their puissant machinery, commanding Ssolgnap to rise (which it was loathe to do, being embroiled in its own shadow politics in the netherworld).

It rose. It unfolded, became, bent limbs and pseudopods, compressed itself in ways unholy until it was visible to the Illuminated Heptumvirate encircling it in the summoning chamber. Intoxicated by their success, the summoners bid the demon kneel and debase itself before its new masters.

Appendages bent, and the perverse form of the demon seemed to genuflect. The Heptumvirate marveled at the power knew they wielded. They stared in awe and burned with their ambition to turn such infernal potential into actuality--anticipating that their every prurient desire and unwholesome appetite would be fed, that their subtle but inexorable grip on this world would be secured eternally.

And Ssolgnap looked back at them. Somewhere, somewhen, some hideous part of it grinned.

One of the Heptumvirate, nominated years before to act as their collective voice, drew himself up and spoke. "Hear us, Ssolgnap, servant of the Illuminated Ones, squire to the ancient Bavarian knighthood, slave to the Hermetic Orders and the Arcanum Eternal: we who bind the very elements to our will, now command you to imbue us with the umbral magnificence of the Netherworld and its populace infernal!"

While the last syllable echoed grandly through the subterranean chamber, Ssolgnap again unfurled quasi-corporeal limbs, stretched them through angles and spaces no geometer will ever know, and manifested one of its ghastly extremities in each of the Illuminatis' skulls. Each died instantly, silently, and without dignity.

As you can see, LGR, the Illuminati are long gone. Or, you know, prove that none of this happened.

Fnord.

[Evolved Wookie]

It's well known that the Illuminati sought to harness the arcane powers of the demon-sorceror Ssolgnap. They prepared for years; searched for, found, and assembled the chthonian apparatus needed to bind the demon and prevent it from shredding their very souls.

When finally their mad evolutions were complete, they called forth to the underworld with their puissant machinery, commanding Ssolgnap to rise (which it was loathe to do, being embroiled in its own shadow politics in the netherworld).

It rose. It unfolded, became, bent limbs and pseudopods, compressed itself in ways unholy until it was visible to the Illuminated Heptumvirate encircling it in the summoning chamber. Intoxicated by their success, the summoners bid the demon kneel and debase itself before its new masters.

Appendages bent, and the perverse form of the demon seemed to genuflect. The Heptumvirate marveled at the power knew they wielded. They stared in awe and burned with their ambition to turn such infernal potential into actuality--anticipating that their every prurient desire and unwholesome appetite would be fed, that their subtle but inexorable grip on this world would be secured eternally.

And Ssolgnap looked back at them. Somewhere, somewhen, some hideous part of it grinned.

One of the Heptumvirate, nominated years before to act as their collective voice, drew himself up and spoke. "Hear us, Ssolgnap, servant of the Illuminated Ones, squire to the ancient Bavarian knighthood, slave to the Hermetic Orders and the Arcanum Eternal: we who bind the very elements to our will, now command you to imbue us with the umbral magnificence of the Netherworld and its populace infernal!"

While the last syllable echoed grandly through the subterranean chamber, Ssolgnap again unfurled quasi-corporeal limbs, stretched them through angles and spaces no geometer will ever know, and manifested one of its ghastly extremities in each of the Illuminatis' skulls. Each died instantly, silently, and without dignity.

As you can see, LGR, the Illuminati are long gone. Or, you know, prove that none of this happened.

Fnord.

*snirk*

I can't believe you bought it!

We had the same guy make that demon suit as put together Patty, you know. That's why the muscles all looked so convincing.

[Evolved Wookie]

Excuse me, but it is not my expression. Did you not attend the 2009 rally? If you did, you would know there is nothing derogatory in the expression. I'm not in the US branch myself, but LGR seems to take special interest in the US, for some reason, so I tried to reply in turn.

We all know the restrictions we have to work under, in a semi-public place like this.

Hans

I didn't, I must admit. I was engaged in trying to smuggle a mind-controlled Little Owl into the Peterthwaite & Dobly Bird of Prey Sanctuary. It was a complete success (want to know what literally ANY of the 38 birds there are thinking at any moment? We can find out) but it did take me away from the conference scene for a while.

I will retract my ire and apologise for it. Rep-p'thui-ftagn, and all that.

I hear the coffee-Danishes were excellent!

[John Albert]

I love it when people look for visual patterns in maps with locations of murders pinned out, as if drawing a pattern on a map is the primary consideration of criminals when choosing where to strike.

[CurtC]

Does anyone have opinion on whether a three point or a four a point crucifixion desecration ritual is superior? And is the efficacy of the ritual diminished if there is a considerable time delay in completing the various points.

That three-nail stuff is just triclavianist heresy! The only doctrinally pure stand is anti-triclavianism (http://objectiveministries.org/pastorscorner/#06-19-2003)!


http://objectiveministries.org/pastorscorner/antitriclavianist.png

[Captain_Swoop]

Well, there's your problem. you can't go from either of the two bombed stations to Stockwell unless you play the standard metropolitan variation
(a concession to foreigh players) when it is made possible by suspending Rule 2 and Prime Move Triangulations can be be made only within a lateral orbit. This avoids doubling and going into Huff.

[Mashuna]

Well, there's your problem. you can't go from either of the two bombed stations to Stockwell unless you play the standard metropolitan variation
(a concession to foreigh players) when it is made possible by suspending Rule 2 and Prime Move Triangulations can be be made only within a lateral orbit. This avoids doubling and going into Huff.

It does leave you wide open to a diagonal move into spoon.

[Evolved Wookie]

there's always the Spoon Trap Problem with the SM version. Personally, I like the Refined (Old) Standard Metro version.

[roger]

I love it when people look for visual patterns in maps with locations of murders pinned out, as if drawing a pattern on a map is the primary consideration of criminals when choosing where to strike.
Oh yah? Don't you find it extraordinarily unsettling that every time there are 3 crimes, the pattern makes the shape of a triangle - or, shall I say - a pyram(i=eye)d?!?!? The trinity - pyramids - come on man, open your eyes! That CAN'T be a coincidence.

[Border Reiver]

Or it could (ba a coincidence)

Just saying, that maybe anthree points can make a triangle, or four points could be connected into a cross.

[Steve]

I was thinking that perhaps Dragons had evolved some of these mind-computer interactions we occasionally hear that the US airforce is working on.

My 9 yo daughter is fascinated by dragons. Can she discuss them with you?

[Philosaur]

Well, the OP is either a fool (or is trying to further confuse the issue) by omitting Mornington Crescent. Its status as an urban ley-line nexus is legendary.

[roger]

Or it could (ba a coincidence)

Just saying, that maybe anthree points can make a triangle, or four points could be connected into a cross.
I'm unpersuaded. You didn't even change one font color or size. :rolleyes:

[Evolved Wookie]

I'm unpersuaded. You didn't even change one font color or size. :rolleyes:

It's all TRUE!!11!

[Hans]

I'd like to know if there are any recipes associated with the Illuminati?

Like sponge cake Illuminati style? I understand they make Waldorf salad with tomatoes.

[garethdjb]

I'd like to know if there are any recipes associated with the Illuminati?

Like sponge cake Illuminati style? I understand they make Waldorf salad with tomatoes.

I hear they do a mean chilli. (http://www.food.com/recipe/secret-illuminati-colorado-green-chile-446981)

[George152]

Well, there's your problem. you can't go from either of the two bombed stations to Stockwell unless you play the standard metropolitan variation
(a concession to foreigh players) when it is made possible by suspending Rule 2 and Prime Move Triangulations can be be made only within a lateral orbit. This avoids doubling and going into Huff.

Aha! the Underground game that featured in an British comedy show...
quickest to wherever :)

[Captain_Swoop]

Well, the OP is either a fool (or is trying to further confuse the issue) by omitting Mornington Crescent. Its status as an urban ley-line nexus is legendary.

I already pointed out you can't getto Stockwell from either of the stations he mentions and you can't get to Mornington Crescent from Stockwell, not if you have come from North of the River.

[uke2se]

Seems to me someone was feeling lonely and unappreciated so he decided to post some drivel on JREF to get people to notice him.

Am I in the ballpark?

[Dave Rogers]

Or it could (ba a coincidence)

Just saying, that maybe anthree points can make a triangle, or four points could be connected into a cross.

I keep misreading the title as "three point one four point crucifixion desecration rituals", which opens up the possibility of the three points being arranged on the perimeter of a circle.

Dave

[dafydd]

Alignments of Woolworths stores in England. Those pesky Illuminati are everywhere!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_234094ea09a45cced8.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=24428)

[Agatha]

Not any more, they've all closed down! How do the conspiracy theorists explain that?

[Hans]

I hear they do a mean chilli. (http://www.food.com/recipe/secret-illuminati-colorado-green-chile-446981)

I'm sorry but Chili is not allowed

Well I just heard from god; good news and bad news;

Bad news: add chili to the list of foods you cannot eat

Good news........

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7674759&postcount=2978

[Checkmite]

What is this i dont even

[Greedo]

Why does this troll, the worst of all (and everyone knows it), get all this attention? I mean, 57 posts in a day? :eek:

[little grey rabbit]

Why does this troll, the worst of all (and everyone knows it), get all this attention? I mean, 57 posts in a day? :eek:

Fear and nervousness. Can't you smell it?

[little grey rabbit]

Well, there's your problem. you can't go from either of the two bombed stations to Stockwell unless you play the standard metropolitan variation
(a concession to foreigh players) when it is made possible by suspending Rule 2 and Prime Move Triangulations can be be made only within a lateral orbit. This avoids doubling and going into Huff.


Not really a problem as there were plenty of other substitutes that would have made a perfectly good cross (eg Charing Cross *ahem*)

Stockwell only became necessary once they ballsed up with the timetables. The choice of Stockwell was probably as much dictated by the fact they didn't want somewhere too crowded. According to my handlers the actually specifics of the ritual aren't really that important - for His Satanic Majesty it is the thought that counts.

And with 9/11 they were really moving into more the realms of symbolism than strict geometric adherence - 3 nails and a spear in the side.

I know what all you geometric purists ought there will be saying right now - but what can you do? The yanks think they can get away with any abomination.

[Craig4]

Your OP assumed their existence.

I have to agree here. There's no need to bother with any questions in the rest of the OP until we establish there is evidence that the Illuminati exist.

[little grey rabbit]

I have to agree here. There's no need to bother with any questions in the rest of the OP until we establish there is evidence that the Illuminati exist.

My dear friend, in me you have found a rabbit of such undeviating reasonableness never seen amongst the Lapin folk since the flood.

If you object to the term Illuminati, what term would you prefer to be known by?
Satanists? Prometheans? Sparticusians? Complete Fruit Loops?

Talk about it amongst yourselves and settle for a term you are all happy with and then we can proceed.

No hurry.

[Craig4]

My dear friend, in me you have found a rabbit of such undeviating reasonableness never seen amongst the Lapin folk since the flood.

If you object to the term Illuminati, what term would you prefer to be known by?
Satanists? Prometheans? Sparticusians? Complete Fruit Loops?

Talk about it amongst yourselves and settle for a term you are all happy with and then we can proceed.

No hurry.

The group that carried out the London bombings was known as Al Qaida. This is a well known terrorist organization the leader of which was recently killed. I know you have some silly little crackpot theory based largely on ignorance and bigotry but that's nothing anyone need be bothered with.

[MRC_Hans]

Fear and nervousness. Can't you smell it?

Sniff, sniff ....
Nah, that's the broccoli I ate yesterday, sorry about that.

Hans

[arthwollipot]

Aha! the Underground game that featured in an British comedy show...
quickest to wherever :)You gentlemen do know that there is a vigorous forum game of Mornington Crescent going on right now (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=220330), don't you?

[MRC_Hans]

My dear friend, in me you have found a rabbit of such undeviating reasonableness never seen amongst the Lapin folk since the flood.

If you object to the term Illuminati, what term would you prefer to be known by?
Satanists? Prometheans? Sparticusians? Complete Fruit Loops?

Talk about it amongst yourselves and settle for a term you are all happy with and then we can proceed.

No hurry.
Sorry, but no. You have no idea how hard it was to get an even reluctant consensus on "Illuminati", and we have not yet quite agreed on the singular form. We can't change that for your sake, nor even for the purpose of a casual discussion. You will have to live with Illuminati, but you can exploit the lack of consensus to say either 'Illuminati' or Illuminatus' in singular at your own convenience.

Anyway, I already answered your OP questions in post #29.

Next question?

Hans

[arthwollipot]

My dear friend, in me you have found a rabbit of such undeviating reasonableness never seen amongst the Lapin folk since the flood.

If you object to the term Illuminati, what term would you prefer to be known by?
Satanists? Prometheans? Sparticusians? Complete Fruit Loops?

Talk about it amongst yourselves and settle for a term you are all happy with and then we can proceed.

No hurry.I'll go further than that. I challenge you to provide any evidence that any such group exists, regardless of what anyone calls them. Please, let me know when you have found them.

It could be that the most reasonable conclusion to draw from the lack of evidence of a group's existence is that the group actually doesn't exist, rather than that they're incredibly good at hiding their existence except for these rather obvious clues that they keep leaving out for people like you to find.

To summarise: It's not the language that I have a problem with.

[Evolved Wookie]

Sniff, sniff ....
Nah, that's the broccoli I ate yesterday, sorry about that.

Hans

...wait - the secret base has a whiff to it...

Do you work in Mashall Death Base Alpha Epsilon Five? Floor thirteen? On the corner along from the gift shop?

In other words, was it you last month with the 'accidental' release of those faulty radio controlled bees? I know, I know , it WAS funny, but it took me hours to get all the gravy out of my keyboard.

Or is the yesterday's-broccoli smell in here today just a coincidence?

[MRC_Hans]

...wait - the secret base has a whiff to it...

Do you work in Mashall Death Base Alpha Epsilon Five? Floor thirteen? On the corner along from the gift shop?

In other words, was it you last month with the 'accidental' release of those faulty radio controlled bees? I know, I know , it WAS funny, but it took me hours to get all the gravy out of my keyboard.

Or is the yesterday's-broccoli smell in here today just a coincidence?

No, I'm free lance, and usually operative in .... well .... east.

But I happen to have been in the place you mention. I needed to purchase the usual reporting gift to my boss (when do we abolish that old nonsense? None of the managers know what to do with all those crucifixes!), and I came by that office and met an old friend working there. They are decoding the anal probe implants coming in from the field, and that is the reason for the smell. My friend says you get used to it after a time, but I don't envy him the job. :boggled:

No, I certainly didn't release those buzzers, but I was sent one from the batch for operations earlier this year. :nope: It ended up in a street delicatessen and some presumably innocent Chinese guy ate it, and .... well you know how Chinese toilets are. I had to report it lost, and you know how the Handlers hate that.

Hans

[garethdjb]

Why does this troll, the worst of all (and everyone knows it), get all this attention? I mean, 57 posts in a day? :eek:

Littlegreyrabbi is in the point-and-laugh cage. Therefore it's only to be expected that people will point at him. And laugh.

[little grey rabbit]

Littlegreyrabbi is in the point-and-laugh cage. Therefore it's only to be expected that people will point at him. And laugh.

So long as we are all enjoying ourselves. That is the important thing.

[Craig4]

So, LGR has the three million Euros coming?

[garethdjb]

So long as we are all enjoying ourselves. That is the important thing.

Absolutely. At least you realise that you're only here for my personal amusement. The last guy never quite understood that.

[little grey rabbit]

Absolutely. At least you realise that you're only here for my personal amusement. The last guy never quite understood that.

Who was your last guy? I am happy that you get personal amusement - although have to confess you often seem rather sour about it.

[Craig4]

Absolutely. At least you realise that you're only here for my personal amusement. The last guy never quite understood that.
Well I suppose amusing you is sort of an accomplishment.

[garethdjb]

Well I suppose amusing you is sort of an accomplishment.


Not really. I'm easily amused ;)

[twinstead]

I've never seen anybody SO sure of something for which no evidence exists. As an aside, before I joined this forum my first exposure to irrational beliefs was a stint at Godlikeproductions. I believe you actually should be there, LGR, but I understand why you're not; those folks are idiots.

At least here you get a little challenge. ;)

[Robrob]

Is this guy for real?

[MRC_Hans]

Is this guy for real?Probably not.

Hans

[Evolved Wookie]

Probably not.

Hans

I really hope not, or I might have to feel a bit bad about this thread.

...obviously, in another six months, the Indoctrination will be complete and I will be purged of the wasteful excesses of regret and guilt, but for now, they still twinge and make my implants itch.

[Craig4]

Not really. I'm easily amused ;)

Well the bunny is back to square one I suppose.

[TheRedWorm]

I really hope not, or I might have to feel a bit bad about this thread.

...obviously, in another six months, the Indoctrination will be complete and I will be purged of the wasteful excesses of regret and guilt, but for now, they still twinge and make my implants itch.

Don't feel bad, he's admitted to being a troll:

I don't really mind one way or the other. But on a personal note, it will be a very sad day indeed when I can't get people online hopping mad by saying "The Illuminati did it" or tell them about the One True Crematorium at Birkenau

Well, I believe I can get people hopping mad.

[Craig4]

Don't feel bad, he's admitted to being a troll:
I don't think the mocking of the Bunny on the topic of the Illuminati qualifies as anger. The whole Mason, Rotary Club, Illuminati thing is really just a joke. I hope he doesn't people are taking him seriously on this stuff.