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swellman
10th March 2003, 06:13 AM
(I've lurked here for a while, but here goes a thread. Be gentle on the newbie.)

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/069/oped/Puppetry_of_the_snow_sculpture+.shtml

I find the type of feminist rhetoric mentioned in the article over the top, but is it just an isolated example from academia or a disturbing trend?

Of course the entire incident seems pretty silly...

aerocontrols
10th March 2003, 06:18 AM
I heard somewhere that the real reason that the Harvard Feminists tore down the sculpture is because several female students got their tongues stuck to it.

MattJ

LillyThePink
10th March 2003, 06:23 AM
Welcome to the forums, swellman (is your name connected to your post?? :eek: )

I find it utterly OTT that the "feminazis" as JK would call them reacted in such a fashion. On the other hand, I don't see a giant phallus as art, freedom of speech or anything else.

I'm soooo simple! ;)

Megalodon
10th March 2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
I heard somewhere that the real reason that the Harvard Feminists tore down the sculpture is because several female students got their tongues stuck to it.

MattJ

ROFLMAO

aerocontrols
10th March 2003, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by LillyThePink
I find it utterly OTT that the "feminazis" as JK would call them reacted in such a fashion.

'Feminazis' is so 1990s...

I vote we replace 'Feminazi' with 'Lezbollah'. A very much more up-to-date smear.

MattJ

iain
10th March 2003, 06:31 AM
From the article...
But no one went quite as far as Wendy J. Murphy, an attorney and a visiting scholar at Harvard Law School, who criticized the Harvard administration's inaction in a letter published in the Crimson on March 3.
....
Unfortunately, these silly and hateful comments [made by Wendy Murphy] are typical of the state of academic feminism today. And then, feminists act surprised and outraged when feminism is perceived as silly and anti-male.So lets get this straight. Wendy Murphy's comments were the most extreme made by anyone about this issue but at the same time they are "typical" of academic feminism. Sounds to me like the author is trying to unfairly discredit the whole movement by portraying the actions of an extremist as being typical of the movement as a whole.

Tony
10th March 2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


'Feminazis' is so 1990s...

I vote we replace 'Feminazi' with 'Lezbollah'. A very much more up-to-date smear.

MattJ


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BillyTK
10th March 2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


'Feminazis' is so 1990s...

I vote we replace 'Feminazi' with 'Lezbollah'. A very much more up-to-date smear.

MattJ

Very funny... but how about "elle-queda"? :D

scotth
10th March 2003, 06:43 AM
I suggest that the crew now erect a large vagina snow sculpture.

To Keel, Cardinale and their supporters, it turns out, the snow penis was nothing less than a symbolic act of misogynistic violence. Keel has called it ''a structure put up to assert male dominance'' as well as an ''implied threat'' to women.

If they tear that down as well, I would love to hear their reasoning and how they make it jive with the above quote.

BillyTK
10th March 2003, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by scotth
I suggest that the crew now erect a large vagina snow sculpture.



:eek: the mind boggles--wouldn't "dig" be a more appropriate verb? ;)

Drooper
10th March 2003, 07:06 AM
I thought this quote frm a "women's studies" lecturer was funny.

''menacing reminders of women's sexual vulnerability"

I would have thought that an eract phallus was a menacing reminder of man's sexual vulnerability. ;)

But this bit had me in tears of laughter:

An erect penis is a symbol of sexual dominance and violence, comparable to the swastika and the confederate flag

No wonder my wife always wants the lights off :D

Victor Danilchenko
10th March 2003, 07:40 AM
This sort of lunacy is what gives feminism a bad name, and provides loads of free ammo to the Religious Wrong and its faithful fellow travellers.

Supercharts
10th March 2003, 07:49 AM
The only reasons to read the Boston Globe are the sports, the comics and Jeff Jacoby.

Blue Monk
10th March 2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Victor Danilchenko
This sort of lunacy is what gives feminism a bad name, and provides loads of free ammo to the Religious Wrong and its faithful fellow travellers.

I couldn't agree more.

I hate it when someone acts foolishly on behalf of what would otherwise be a good cause. The opposition will always focus on these isolated acts of silliness rather than deal with the real issues.

A lot of people need to pick their battles a little more wisely.

Bentspoon
10th March 2003, 11:21 AM
Gee, with such a heated debate I am surprised it didn't melt before the controversy.

As far as it being a threat to women, I have to agree. A giant, frozen, erect penis ........ that would scare any woman. I shiver to think ..................

What about the threat to gay men - they are vulnerable too

I wonder if it would have been better to have a giant frozen flaccid penis - naw that would threaten men over 50 and Bob Dole.

Did anyone hear? was there a snow ball fight?

Bentspoon

Barkhorn1x
10th March 2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by scotth
I suggest that the crew now erect a large vagina snow sculpture.

If they tear that down as well, I would love to hear their reasoning and how they make it jive with the above quote.

...they would attack the vagina as a male sponsored display that "exploits" women sexually by "objectifying" them.

You just can't win against the Lezbollahs!!!

;)

Barkhorn.

swellman
10th March 2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Supercharts
The only reasons to read the Boston Globe are the sports, the comics and Jeff Jacoby.

I agree - much of the Boston Globe op-ed is one sided. :eek:

I picked up on this article due to author's background as a contributing editor at Reason magazine. Seemed appropriate for a skeptic forum, but I confess I don't know much about Reason other than poking around their website.

Anyone know this rag? Is it as neutral as it claims to be?