Six Flags Kills Guy

[American]

AGAWAM, Mass. -- A 55-year-old man with cerebral palsy died Saturday when he fell out of a roller coaster at an amusement park, according to park officials and a newspaper report.

Stanley J. Mordarsky of Bloomfield, Conn., fell out of the Superman Ride of Steel roller coaster as it was approaching the end of its run at the Six Flags New England amusement park, park officials said.

Six Flags Kills Guy (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Amusement%20Park%20Death)

(That's my headline. I wrote it.)


As with anything fun, you're bound to lose a few. It's worth it. I love roller coasters, especially when you go up, and then down, and then the part where you're going really fast and the chicks are screaming like scardy cats and I'm all cool like "YEAH this rocks!"

Statistically, I don't care if some people die now and then. It ain't me, and it ain't nobody I know, and it ain't the friend of nobody I know. If it were the friend of a friend of a friend who died, then I'd feel uneasy.

At the risk of being sued for libelous accusations against Six Flags, I dare say I think it's highly probable that they deliberately put a disabled man on their roller coaster just to kill him. It's only speculation, but I believe they were so scared of pollitical corectness and being railed by the A.D.A. that the only way to avoid handicap discrimination was to allow him on the Superman ride and hope for the worst. Call it my own little "conspiracy theory", if you will.

True, for a moment he actually flew like Superman flys, if Superman were to ride a roller coaster and break off the safety harness using his super muscle strength, and then go around a curve real fast without being able to hold on to something. But if you read the back of your ticket stub, it clearly states that patrons must adhere to park rules, including all safety requirements to ride the park amusement rides such as the Man of Steel roller coaster ride.

Taking off one's safety harness puts one in violation of those rules! Although I don't have all or any of the facts, or any kind of evidence at all, there's no indication that this man did this or broke any other rules. Therefore the onus is on Six Flags Incorporated to see that one DOESN'T die as a result of normal park activity (such as but not limited to riding the Man of Steel roller coaster ride). I really doubt that a trained engineer would in fail his or her duty to design and maintain a safe roller coaster ride. That means that something else must have gone wrong. Yup- they murdered him on purpose.

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

[Ian Osborne]

This is almost as stupid as claiming Elton John totally copied REO Speedwagon (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963)...

[American]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne
This is almost as stupid as claiming Elton John totally copied REO Speedwagon (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963)...


Freddie Mercury was another great musician who was gay. You can be a great artist, and it has nothing to do with your sex life. He was really good at music.

[Graham]

Originally posted by American



Freddie Mercury was another great musician who was gay. You can be a great artist, and it has nothing to do with your sex life. He was really good at music.

He was great, but did he totally copy REO Speedwagon? (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963)

[Mr. Skinny]

Originally posted by American

(snip)
The prosecution rests, your Honor.
Based on your argument, I vote to acquit the defendant.

Lame bulls**t as usual, American.

[kittynh]

I usually go to this park once a year. This isn't the first time this ride has had problems. Once the two trains collided. Also, I can't see why this guy even got on this ride. He had a physical not a mental disability.

But still, this ride is known as bad news in our area.

http://www.themeparkinsider.com/parks/accident.cfm?Attraction=908

[Evolver]

Originally posted by kittynh

But still, this ride is known as bad news in our area.


Really? I've gone there. And many of my friends & acquaintances have gone, and although I had heard of the first incident, I had heard it was "bad news".

The entire park, however, compared to the other Six Flags I've been to, is a dump. Where do people get the idea that putting wads of chewing gum all over everything is cool?

[gnome]

Originally posted by American

At the risk of being sued for libelous accusations against Six Flags, I dare say I think it's highly probable that they deliberately put a disabled man on their roller coaster just to kill him. It's only speculation, but I believe they were so scared of pollitical corectness and being railed by the A.D.A. that the only way to avoid handicap discrimination was to allow him on the Superman ride and hope for the worst. Call it my own little "conspiracy theory", if you will.


Let's put aside for a moment the argument that no sane human would put another one to death in order to avoid criticism by the A.D.A.

Let's also put aside for the moment that the A.D.A. would not be likely to claim discrimination against a disabled person who was kept from a ride for their own safety.

A death on a theme park ride creates a PR disaster. Until confidence in the ride and the park is restored, admission numbers surely go WAY down. This creates a direct financial hit--one far greater than any negative publicity the A.D.A. could generate.

[roger]

Once again, I'm LOL at an American post, and once again, others are getting all huffy and taking him seriously.

Which is funnier, the opening post or the oh-so-serious replies, I can't say...

[gnome]

I have a hard time laughing, I guess... it's not funny, it's just stupid. And the unfortunate thing is, I hear people talking this way and meaning it. It doesn't make me very jocular.

Especially in light of his comments in the other thread where he has no problem with the mistreatment of foreign POW's.

Was that funny?

[reprise]

Originally posted by American


Six Flags Kills Guy (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Amusement%20Park%20Death)

(That's my headline. I wrote it.)


As with anything fun, you're bound to lose a few. It's worth it. I love roller coasters, especially when you go up, and then down, and then the part where you're going really fast and the chicks are screaming like scardy cats and I'm all cool like "YEAH this rocks!"

Statistically, I don't care if some people die now and then. It ain't me, and it ain't nobody I know, and it ain't the friend of nobody I know. If it were the friend of a friend of a friend who died, then I'd feel uneasy.

At the risk of being sued for libelous accusations against Six Flags, I dare say I think it's highly probable that they deliberately put a disabled man on their roller coaster just to kill him. It's only speculation, but I believe they were so scared of pollitical corectness and being railed by the A.D.A. that the only way to avoid handicap discrimination was to allow him on the Superman ride and hope for the worst. Call it my own little "conspiracy theory", if you will.

True, for a moment he actually flew like Superman flys, if Superman were to ride a roller coaster and break off the safety harness using his super muscle strength, and then go around a curve real fast without being able to hold on to something. But if you read the back of your ticket stub, it clearly states that patrons must adhere to park rules, including all safety requirements to ride the park amusement rides such as the Man of Steel roller coaster ride.

Taking off one's safety harness puts one in violation of those rules! Although I don't have all or any of the facts, or any kind of evidence at all, there's no indication that this man did this or broke any other rules. Therefore the onus is on Six Flags Incorporated to see that one DOESN'T die as a result of normal park activity (such as but not limited to riding the Man of Steel roller coaster ride). I really doubt that a trained engineer would in fail his or her duty to design and maintain a safe roller coaster ride. That means that something else must have gone wrong. Yup- they murdered him on purpose.

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

Now there's a legal opinion worthy of Victor Zammit.

[kittynh]

well, three people from town were hospitalized when the two Superman trains hit. One of them still walks with a cane. So, I guess when you live in a small town that makes a case for it being thought not too great a ride.

[Cain]

Originally posted by roger
Once again, I'm LOL at an American post, and once again, others are getting all huffy and taking him seriously.

Which is funnier, the opening post or the oh-so-serious replies, I can't say...

American is brilliant, and brilliance is often notoriously misunderstood. (This is in stark contrast to that mountebank Pillory, who has managed to convince people simpler than himself that he's not a drunk, retarded sea monkey.)

[American]

Originally posted by roger
Which is funnier, the opening post or the oh-so-serious replies, I can't say...


Your Easter Island head is the funniest thing here. Where is Squidward?

[Renfield]

Originally posted by Evolver


Really? I've gone there. And many of my friends & acquaintances have gone, and although I had heard of the first incident, I had heard it was "bad news".

The entire park, however, compared to the other Six Flags I've been to, is a dump. Where do people get the idea that putting wads of chewing gum all over everything is cool?

Its a weird side affect of being an adolescent perhaps? That's just my judgement having spent some time in an area high school recently.

[shemp]

American, you should get a job with The Onion or Weekly World News. They can use people who have completely lost touch with reality.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by shemp
American, you should get a job with The Onion or Weekly World News. They can use people who have completely lost touch with reality.

Maybe he can advise Bush on who America's imminent threats are. Or maybe he already has. That would explain Iraq.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by shemp
American, you should get a job with The Onion or Weekly World News. They can use people who have completely lost touch with reality. Shemp, there are times when I wonder if it's the other way around - they're the few still in touch with reality. :p

Eh .... the Onion, that is, not American.

[American]

Ooo God I'm going to hell. I just saw a news story on this, and it kinda put a human face on the topic.


Oh well. There's no afterlife, according to most of you people. And that's not such a bad way to go, when you think about it. He was kind of young though... 55. Damn.


Hey maybe it was suicide. They say that ride has seatbelts AND a chest harness. What are the odds of the both of them failing? Huh??

[Mr. Skinny]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Shemp, there are times when I wonder if it's the other way around - they're the few still in touch with reality. :p

Eh .... the Onion, that is, not American.
Bjorn, I might consider submitting this for the May language award.

So simple, yet so true in many ways.

Cheers.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Evolver


Really? I've gone there. And many of my friends & acquaintances have gone, and although I had heard of the first incident, I had heard it was "bad news".

The entire park, however, compared to the other Six Flags I've been to, is a dump. Where do people get the idea that putting wads of chewing gum all over everything is cool?

I'm with Singapore on this. Ban chewing gum. It achieves nothign that you can't get from other products, and idiots stick it on everything you can hold on to. People caught chewing gum will be sent to jail.

[Nasarius]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
I'm with Singapore on this. Ban chewing gum. It achieves nothign that you can't get from other products, and idiots stick it on everything you can hold on to. People caught chewing gum will be sent to jail.

No no no. Mandatory prison sentences for littering. I'm half-serious...
Why do people feel the need to toss gum and cigarette butts on the sidewalk? Ugh. Find a garbage can; they're usually not far.

[rebecca]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


I'm with Singapore on this. Ban chewing gum. It achieves nothign that you can't get from other products, and idiots stick it on everything you can hold on to. People caught chewing gum will be sent to jail.

UNTRUE! Sugar-free chewing gum burns more calories and cleans your teeth better than mints, and leaves your mouth mintier than, say, meatloaf.

I'll defend to the death my right to chew gum (but I'll never throw it on the ground).

[Pablo]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


I'm with Singapore on this. Ban chewing gum. It achieves nothign that you can't get from other products, and idiots stick it on everything you can hold on to. People caught chewing gum will be sent to jail.

Wouldn't that be the Un-american thing to do?

[Exposer]

Originally posted by American

...I think it's highly probable that they deliberately put a disabled man on their roller coaster just to kill him. It's only speculation, but I believe they were so scared of pollitical corectness and being railed by the A.D.A. that the only way to avoid handicap discrimination was to allow him on the Superman ride and hope for the worst.


True, for a moment he actually flew like Superman flys...

:dl:

Ha ha ha. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all week.

[shemp]

Originally posted by Mr. Skinny

Bjorn, I might consider submitting this for the May language award.

So simple, yet so true in many ways.

Cheers.

Hey, I deserve a piece of that award for being the set-up man!

[Evolver]

Local news is still showing the man's mother saying "How could the park let him get on this ride?" As if that were the problem here.

The news reports (at least on one reputable station) also mention that Federal law requires that the park let any disabled person get on any ride, as long as they can get themselves on.

The mother has also been quoted as saying that he goes there all the time. If so, why wasn't she complaining about all the other times he's been allowed on rides?

IIRC, the Superman coaster has one of those heavy harnesses that lock onto place before the ride starts. Either he wasn't in the seat properly, or there was s serious malfunction of the ride for him to fall out.

[kittynh]

was the fact that he was handicapped the problem? Or did the ride malfunction in such a way that it could have been a 12 year old kid that went flying? Is it funny because it was a handicapped person, or because it was an adult? It sounds like this problem could have happened to anyone on that ride.

[Evolver]

Originally posted by kittynh
was the fact that he was handicapped the problem? Or did the ride malfunction in such a way that it could have been a 12 year old kid that went flying? Is it funny because it was a handicapped person, or because it was an adult? It sounds like this problem could have happened to anyone on that ride.

Possibly, the attendants didn't tighten down the harness as much as they should have, because of his handicap. This may be because they thought he was more fragile than the usual rider, or perhaps they were a bit repulsed by his handicap. Neither of these is excusable, just a possibility.

And it only seems funny to "American".

[jj]

Why does anyone reply to "American"?

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by jj
Why does anyone reply to "American"?

Something about all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing.

[kittynh]

The man was only 5'2" and 230 pds. Not a light weight.

[Evolver]

Originally posted by kittynh
The man was only 5'2" and 230 pds. Not a light weight.

I doubt "American" is that tall.

Oh, you mean the guy on the ride. The news report tonight said the ride has a T-bar type of harness. It's been 3 years since I've been there. I do recall that the ride gave you enough room in the seat to feel the weightlessness on the drops. I suppose there might be room for someone to wiggle out. And this guy must have been pretty round, so maybe in order to accomodate his width, they had to give him extra room on the height.

[Evolver]

Originally posted by jj
Why does anyone reply to "American"?

I don't think Kitthynh & I were replying to him. I just think that despite the opening comments, this is an interesting topic.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by "American"


blah blah blah stupid blah blah



Maybe they killed him because he totally copied REO Speedwagon. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963)

[American]

Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer

Maybe they killed him because he totally copied REO Speedwagon.


A man died. Can you be more sensitive please? Thanks.

[Nasarius]

Originally posted by American
A man died. Can you be more sensitive please? Thanks.

Statistically, I don't care if some people die now and then.

*blinks*

[NightG1]

Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer


Maybe they killed him because he totally copied REO Speedwagon. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963)
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/nightg1/dcoaster.jpg

[The Central Scrutinizer]

LOL

[waitew]

A few years ago a 300 plus pound woman fell out of Knott's Berry Farms 'Perilous Plunge' water slide & was killed.They now have a seat with harness at the beginning of the line & if they suspect a person is too 'large' for the ride,they are asked to sit in the seat & fasten the harness & if they can't ,they are not allowed to ride.
Had Knotts done this before the fatal accident,I suspect they would have been sued by the ACLU or similar organization.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by waitew
A few years ago a 300 plus pound woman fell out of Knott's Berry Farms 'Perilous Plunge' water slide & was killed.They now have a seat with harness at the beginning of the line & if they suspect a person is too 'large' for the ride,they are asked to sit in the seat & fasten the harness & if they can't ,they are not allowed to ride.
Had Knotts done this before the fatal accident,I suspect they would have been sued by the ACLU or similar organization.

Based on what evidence? Oh, you're talking out your butt. Sorry. Moving right along.

[Evolver]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


Based on what evidence? Oh, you're talking out your butt. Sorry. Moving right along.

As the local news reports it, the ADA requires that an amusment park MUST allow anyone onto the ride that can get on by themselves. I fear waitew is correct in his assumption.

[epepke]

Six Flags has a pretty poor record. About a decade and a half ago, there were several people killed when the cable broke on one of those overhead cable rides. That's pretty bad, considering the age and stability of that kind of slow ride. (I noticed that the Magic Kingdom had removed their cable ride the last time I went there, which was too bad.)

[American]

Latest word is that the crew only helped a few people and DID NOT check his belt nor test his lap bar, which was up the whole time.

They were rushing. So someone died. His disability had little or nothing to do with it.

To add horrible detail, the woman behind him was holding him down the whole time and lost her grip on his belt at the last curve. People did give a yell at the start of the ride, but nobody understood what was wrong. Two other sins by Six Flags are that it took a long time to call 911, and the park staff lied to patrons throughout the day as to why the ride was closed.



I'll still ride! I don't think I want his seat, however....