Ron Paul gets some press

[Spindrift]

Paul supporters are always complaining that Ron Paul is ignored by the media. Well here's a story. They may not be thrilled with it though.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10358155-super-pac-supporting-ron-paul-is-operated-by-a-911-truther

Apparently Ron Paul is being supported by a SuperPAC which is run by 9/11 Truther Gary Franchi. And he believes in FEMA concentration camps, too.

Of course we should not judge Ron Paul by his supporters.

[timhau]

Of course we should not judge Ron Paul by his supporters.

... although we might wonder why he gets all the crazy ones.

[Cleon]

Whaddya know. Conspiracy theorists supporting Ron Paul. That never happens.

[Tricky]

And this is why Ron Paul will never be elected president. Other candidates ignore his lunatic base because they don't want to alienate them, knowing that many of them will have to vote for somebody else in the general election. But if Paul was ever a threat to be actually nominated, you can be sure that the attack ads would load up on him. And with all the ammunition he has give them, they would smack him down like a pesky fly.

[Oliver]

Of course we should not judge Ron Paul by his supporters.


Uh, you probably meant to say "Supporter", right?

[daredelvis]

Uh, you probably meant to say "Supporter", right?

Well there is you, and Gary Franchi, so I guess supporters is correct.

Daredelvis

[Spindrift]

Uh, you probably meant to say "Supporter", right?

No, I never judge a man by his jock strap.

[Brainster]

Note as well that Franchi's goal is to expose yet another conspiracy:

A Super PAC supporting Paul has pledged to monitor the vote in all the
remaining states, using an army of exit pollsters to fight what it calls results that are "outrageous, unacceptable and patently un-American."

He undoubtedly believes that Ron Paul has won all the primaries, just the way he wins every internet poll.

[madfoot]

Exit polling? That's crazy!

[Spindrift]

Exit polling? That's crazy!

It's crazy if he thinks exit polling is going to somehow going to change the results or the validity of those results.

[Checkmite]

Quote:
A Super PAC supporting Paul has pledged to monitor the vote in all the
remaining states, using an army of exit pollsters to fight what it calls results that are "outrageous, unacceptable and patently un-American."


Trutherlibertopia Rule #1: It is unacceptable to vote for anyone who's name is not Ron Paul.

[Spindrift]

Trutherlibertopia Rule #1: It is unacceptable to vote for anyone who's name is not Ron Paul.

It beyond unacceptable, to them it's unfathomable, so the voting must be rigged.

[Biscuit]

A reporter needs ask Paul, "Do you believe all people are created equal?" I think his answer would either be "yes" or an epic fumble. Rooting for epic fumble.

[elbe]

A reporter needs ask Paul, "Do you believe all people are created equal?" I think his answer would either be "yes" or an epic fumble. Rooting for epic fumble.

I would imagine something about people having an equal chance to succeed in the free market without the government interfering, or some such tripe.

[Dunstan]

It beyond unacceptable, to them it's unfathomable, so the voting must be rigged.

"I can't believe Ron Paul lost the election. Everyone I know on the internet voted for him!"

(And yes, I know that the Pauline Kael "quote" that I'm riffing on is apocryphal.)

[Alareth]

Oh look, one of Ron's biggest Super Pac's is run by a truther who thinks we are all heading to FEMA Death Camps™

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10358155-super-pac-supporting-ron-paul-is-operated-by-a-911-truther

As with many other so-called "independent" Super PACs, which can receive unlimited donations outside the normal rules of campaign finance, the pro-Paul group is operated by people with close ties to the candidate. The group's advisory board members include Penny Langford Freeman, Paul's political director from 1998 to 2007, and Joe Becker, chief legal counsel for Ron Paul 2008.
The leader of the group, its founder, chairman and treasurer, is Gary Franchi, a promoter of conspiracy theories and sophisticated social-media entrepreneur in the resurgent movement known as the Patriots.

[carlitos]

Gary Franchi started the Lone Lantern group. I was on their meetup email list for a while. Some of them were into some serious weirdness beyond 9/11 Truth. Chemtrails, all sorts of nonsense.

Other topics we discuss include globalization, preserving our civil liberties, torture, the current illegal wars of aggression, Tax Honesty, the Federal Reserve, the North American Union, the current police state, and the RFID chip.

Here's the kind of deep thinking you can expect, in between the constant Ron Paul / end the fed emails:

LOOSE CHANGE ON A BIG SCREEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY

Needs a date Coming soon!

Needs a location Coming soon!

ITS JUST AN IDEA THAT I HOPE SOME HOW CAN COME TRUE... YOU KNOW HOW THE PARK DISTRICT PUTS FREE MOVIES ON BIG SCREENS FOR ALL WHO WANTS 2 C THEM CAN FOR FREE.... IMAGEN IF SOME HOW A GROUP LIKE THIS ONE CAN GET A BIG SCREEN UP SOMEWHERE AND PLAY LOOSE CHANGE WITH OUT ANY PROBLEMS......I THINK IT WOULD MAKE ALOT OF PPL THINK AND WANT TO LEARN MORE

[Puppycow]

"cozies" not "cozy's"

Cool thread though. :)

[elbe]

Remember, guys, it's not his fault the people who support him are nuts.

[leftysergeant]

WeAreChange whackadoodles liked to put up RP posters and hand out his tracts along with their own 9/11 woo at Obama rallies in 2008.

[Alareth]

None of this is really shocking news to those of us who are veterans of the CT forums, but not everyone is brave enough to look over that wall.

[leftysergeant]

I keep trying to tell the Paulbots that it is a good thing for them that he doesn't get the attention he deserves.

Let them whine now and see if I care.

[madfoot]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating

[JoeTheJuggler]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating

Are you claiming that the story cited in the OP isn't true?

[leftysergeant]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SwiftboatingDude, swift boating involves sliming a candidate with BS.

Franchi is nuts and RP doesn't let that fact bother him.

This is more than a bit suggestive that RP has a couple headbolts loose.

[Checkmite]

Something has to not be true for it to be swiftboating, yes?

[Oliver]

Well there is you, and Gary Franchi, so I guess supporters is correct.

Daredelvis


Unless you're claiming that I'm a truther, your assumption is downright stupid. Of course, the same is equally true if that's what you're claim is.

Also, did you know that Ron Paul always ate the placenta after giving birth to a child? (Before eating the baby itself) :boxedin:

[madfoot]

The word swiftboating is an American neologism used pejoratively to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.

[JoeTheJuggler]

The word swiftboating is an American neologism used pejoratively to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.

If the story is true, how is it unfair?

ETA: The term came from the anti-Kerry ads by "Swiftboat Veterans for Truth", and it was unfair because it was untrue (http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html).

[madfoot]

The article attempts to tie Ron Paul to one of his independent supporters, who happens to have a few fringe beliefs. No discussion of policy or real issues; just smears. It's about as fair as the two months of coverage about Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers were. Obama's associations with these people were factual, but it was unfair treatment.

[elbe]

In this case it's more valid than Obama's past associations as this is someone who's actively working to support his election run. Some people feel it's in the public's best interests to know who's behind the money.

[Checkmite]

You know, holy hell. A whole thread whining like a freaking baby about how Ron Paul "gets no press coverage"; and now finally when Paul gets some press coverage - of the exact same character as coverage of the other candidates, I might add - now it's just more whining? What would make you happy, some kind of North-Korean-style "Dear Leader" tribute? For crying out loud.