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a_unique_person
18th May 2004, 09:44 PM
Makes you wonder? What is up with those people. We're the ones who should be hating each other.

a_unique_person
18th May 2004, 09:46 PM
In fact, wtf is going on in there anyway? I have absolutely no idea.

Grammatron
18th May 2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Makes you wonder? What is up with those people. We're the ones who should be hating each other.

Are you serious? Things get pretty vicious here sometimes; do you have any example of how bad it gets there?

a_unique_person
18th May 2004, 10:22 PM
For one thing, half the mods have left, the rest are in tears.

peptoabysmal
18th May 2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Makes you wonder? What is up with those people. We're the ones who should be hating each other.

I think that people here (generally speaking), no matter how passionate they are about their beliefs, still like to discuss and question those beliefs. Test them by fire, if you will.

There's always the odd hateful little f*ck anywhere you go.

Mr Manifesto
18th May 2004, 10:46 PM
Hard to give a stuff, really. Haven't been there for a while, but when I have, it's hard to understand why those people post anything instead of just cut-and-pasting:

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Cleopatra
18th May 2004, 11:24 PM
Unique is right. This forum in comparison with the Community and especially with those who bitch that they hate politics because they hate to fight is like kindergarden.

The Fool
18th May 2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by peptoabysmal


I think that people here (generally speaking), no matter how passionate they are about their beliefs, still like to discuss and question those beliefs. Test them by fire, if you will.

There's always the odd hateful little f*ck anywhere you go.
Maybe we could change the forum name to politics and current events for the warmhearted? Maybe we could send each other pictures of kittens?

I think the bottom line is I don't take it personally if someone calls me a kitten strangling cross dressing Idiot.... Maybe some people do. This is unusual because as far as I know Manifesto is the only cross dresser on this forum and A_U_P only tends to strangle chickens.

Grammatron
18th May 2004, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by The Fool

Maybe we could change the forum name to politics and current events for the warmhearted? Maybe we could send each other pictures of kittens?

I think the bottom line is I don't take it personally if someone calls me a kitten strangling cross dressing Idiot.... Maybe some people do. This is unusual because as far as I know Manifesto is the only cross dresser I know of on this forum and A_U_P only tends to strangle chickens.

Have you personally seen AUP chocking the chicken?

Cleopatra
18th May 2004, 11:33 PM
Well I have news for you. It has been reported to me that a specific individual who enjoys making accusations and creating problems has said in PalTalk that I must be a cross dresser as well.

He finds my voice too bass for a woman LOL

It's been some time since I laughed that much.

So Mr. Manifesto it makes two of us. LOL

The Fool
18th May 2004, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Grammatron


Have you personally seen AUP chocking the chicken?
My personal relationship with A_U_P including any images we may (or may not) exchange by pm are NONE OF YOU BUSINESS!!!

except if you would like to see the image...PM me and we can work out a payment plan.

Grammatron
18th May 2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by The Fool

My personal relationship with A_U_P includig any images we may (or may not) exchange by pm are NONE OF YOU BUSINESS!!!

except if you would like to see the image...PM me and we can work out a payment plan.


Ah...no it's ok. This will be one of those rare instances where I take your word for it and won't require any proof.

The Fool
19th May 2004, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Cleopatra
Well I have news for you. It has been reported to me that a specific individual who enjoys making accusations and creating problems has said in PalTalk that I must be a cross dresser as well.

He finds my voice too bass for a woman LOL

It's been some time since I laughed that much.

So Mr. Manifesto it makes two of us. LOL

anyway...what are you doing wasting time posting on this forum?Shouldn't you be banging nails into a stadium roof or something? Get to work woman...... There is so little time left, the world is watching.

a_unique_person
19th May 2004, 01:17 AM
They were only those little, yellow, fluffy ones. That doesn't count does it?

Ed
19th May 2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Grammatron


Have you personally seen AUP chocking the chicken?


No, but I understand his vision is failing.

[rim shot]

Thank you folks, I'll be here all week.

Ed
19th May 2004, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by The Fool


anyway...what are you doing wasting time posting on this forum?Shouldn't you be banging nails into a stadium roof or something? Get to work woman...... There is so little time left, the world is watching.


HA, stadium, HA. Museum for Elgin Marbles, HA HA. Drunken, fornicating Greeks all over the place HA HA HA. I am stocking up for popcorn for this Olympics.

Hey, Cleo..... you aware of the Unidroit Convention? Might make for an interesting discussion ... or not

http://www.classicalcoins.com/unidroit.html

(it is about the return of cultural property)

a_unique_person
19th May 2004, 03:16 AM
Hey Ed, they might be giving you your moderator job back soon.

Ed
19th May 2004, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Hey Ed, they might be giving you your moderator job back soon.

Why do you say that?

Ed
19th May 2004, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Grammatron


Have you personally seen AUP chocking the chicken?

No, but I haven't seen one rolling by, have you?

[rim shot]

Thank you ladies and germs.

Cleopatra
19th May 2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Ed
HA, stadium, HA. Museum for Elgin Marbles, HA HA. Drunken, fornicating Greeks all over the place HA HA HA. I am stocking up for popcorn for this Olympics.

Yeah yeah. You remind me of the British journalists that are so obsessed with the Greeks that every other day they try to sneak everywhere in order to prove that the security measures are not enough. My cop friend says that their problem is sexual.Our poor policemen protest because they have to touch the unwashed creatures that resemble vaguely to females in order to arrest them.

Hey, Cleo..... you aware of the Unidroit Convention? Might make for an interesting discussion ... or not

http://www.classicalcoins.com/unidroit.html

(it is about the return of cultural property) Yeah I know it what you discuss in that discussion list: " Ways to become an effective thief" LOL

Don't piss me off Ed because I might change my mind about those Marbles that decorate your garden along with those plastic pink flamingos and take them back.

Don't push the envelope. :mad: [ <--- JREF Community forum terminology]

a_unique_person
19th May 2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Ed


Why do you say that?

If you look at the list of mods at the top of the screen, it is suddenly a lot smaller.

richardm
19th May 2004, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person


If you look at the list of mods at the top of the screen, it is suddenly a lot smaller.

... and indeed two of them are rarely sighted here any more, and a third has announced he's having a break from the forum. And we already have two suspected GP socks lurking around...

Edited to add: Actually, it's two of 'em who are taking a break.

Ed
19th May 2004, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Cleopatra


Yeah yeah. You remind me of the British journalists that are so obsessed with the Greeks that every other day they try to sneak everywhere in order to prove that the security measures are not enough. My cop friend says that their problem is sexual.Our poor policemen protest because they have to touch the unwashed creatures that resemble vaguely to females in order to arrest them.

Well, the tradition of Journalism in England is sodomy, rum and the lash, isn't it? Or was that the tradition of Public Schools, or the Royal Navy, or Parliment, or .... one of those, anyway

Yeah I know it what you discuss in that discussion list: " Ways to become an effective thief" LOL

Serious: Not fair. It basically undermines a thousand years of common law regarding property. If a State claims that you own something improperly the burden of proof is on you to prove that you do. It covers EVERYTHING made prior to 1900. It is a grabby thing and bad, IMHO, of course

Don't piss me off Ed because I might change my mind about those Marbles that decorate your garden along with those plastic pink flamingos and take them back.

The marbles are very happy here in CT.

Don't push the envelope. :mad: [ <--- JREF Community forum terminology]

Huh?

Ed
19th May 2004, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by richardm


... and indeed two of them are rarely sighted here any more, and a third has announced he's having a break from the forum. And we already have two suspected GP socks lurking around...

Edited to add: Actually, it's two of 'em who are taking a break.

What is going on? Seems I missed something.

The Fool
19th May 2004, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person


If you look at the list of mods at the top of the screen, it is suddenly a lot smaller.

Well..... I'm in.

I would like to officially announce I am running for Moderator. Actually, I would like to be the Vicemoderator on the Ed ticket but I dare not ask, lest I be blinded by his wrath and Omnipotent fury.

There has been more confirmed sightings of Elvis than some of the names on that list. Its time that we return to good old days when even the Trolls played nice.

Get with the program folks, we can't let a little coup from the Community crowd weaked the Iron hand of Moderation.

You may note from this post that I am bitter at not being made a moderator in the last round....Its time to put that right.....Vote Ed-Fool in 04.

richardm
19th May 2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Ed


What is going on? Seems I missed something.

Hooo, where have you been?

The forum is being turned into a place where you must only talk about sensible things and be nice to people. The rest of the forum is effectively being switched off. Currently, there is a concerted effort to get it to implode before Hal pulls the plug.

Some of the mods quit because they didn't want the changes made. Some of the others quit because they didn't appreciate the huge rows that blew up subsequent to the announcement. I think that's a fair summary of this ten page free-flowing fistfight. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39942)

Brian the Snail
19th May 2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by richardm
I think that's a fair summary of this ten page free-flowing fistfight. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39942)

33 pages I think you mean (it only shows the first 10 pages at the top).

Ed
19th May 2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by richardm


Hooo, where have you been?

The forum is being turned into a place where you must only talk about sensible things and be nice to people. The rest of the forum is effectively being switched off. Currently, there is a concerted effort to get it to implode before Hal pulls the plug.

Some of the mods quit because they didn't want the changes made. Some of the others quit because they didn't appreciate the huge rows that blew up subsequent to the announcement. I think that's a fair summary of this ten page free-flowing fistfight. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39942)

Oh. I told Hal, I told him 2 years ago.
So, in essence, there will be a fun forum and a serious forum. Very stupid and typical of bureaucratic thinking. The un-fun forum will get 2 page hits, the fum forum 50^100. The JREF will not be able to claim the same viewership and will look silly.

"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the Saints."

And the world continues to go 'round.

Shane Costello
19th May 2004, 04:52 AM
Am I the only person mystified that an internet forum could be the cause of so much discord and ill feeling? Maybe I've a heart of stone and the intellectual development of an amoeba, but how can anyone take an internet forum this seriously (and yes, I've just become aware of all the hoohah over scholarships and such).


Edited to add that I take this place seriously enough to PM a mod to get my post-count restored recently. :o

Upchurch
19th May 2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
For one thing, half the mods have left, the rest are in tears. I'm not in tears! I'm only crying on this inside.

davefoc
19th May 2004, 09:33 AM
I haven't been posting much lately. I'm trying to disengage emotionally from this place so that when the changeover occurs I will have moved on.

But I was just reading through a few threads over here in politics and was reminded of how much I enjoyed them and the participants.

I even enjoyed the left wing wackos (you know who you are). I feel a little about you the way I feel about Christians. Your reasoning isn't exactly spot on but at least you're trying to save my soul which I appreciate.

As to the rudeness over here, I think it might have been nice if we could have gotten through a few threads on Israel without somebody being called an anti-semite or a nazi, but over all I thought the level of rudeness was just about right for candid entertaining dixcussion.

Hutch
19th May 2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by davefoc
I even enjoyed the left wing wackos (you know who you are). I feel a little about you the way I feel about Christians. Your reasoning isn't exactly spot on but at least you're trying to save my soul which I appreciate.

And we like you too, you loveable right-wing neo-con nutcase. :D


As to the rudeness over here, I think it might have been nice if we could have gotten through a few threads on Israel without somebody being called an anti-semite or a nazi, but over all I thought the level of rudeness was just about right for candid entertaining dixcussion.

I contrast it to something akin to Rugby, where you can beat the living fecal matter out of each other and then both teams head to the pub and drink themselves under the table in fellowship (at least, that's what I have heard from various ruggers I've met).

I could see myself buying AUP, the Fool, rikzilla, Ed, and others a beer at the same table....said table's balance might be in question considering how many fists get pounded on it that night, but it would be a great conversation.

Meanwhile, it appears a sense of humor is reasserting itself over at the Community to replace the catfight (Note--do not invite Denise and Suezrold to same party remainder of this decade)