Victim of 28-foot fall in BELLEVUE NEBRASKA says angel caught him

[billiefan2000]

this happened near where i live and wanted to hear your thoughts on this.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=1636&u_sid=1102959

explains the whole story

[Thomas]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
this happened near where i live and wanted to hear your thoughts on this.
I guess that angel could have used a couple of hours in the gym:


he broke both his wrists, an elbow and his nose. He suffered a broken jaw, broken teeth and several bruises.


There's no miracles in that, you don't necessarily die from a 28-feet fall. Maybe he would have had even fewer injuries if he had concentrated on the impact instead of dreaming about angels.

[Wire]

Last year, in my home town, several people fell off from 5th floor windows or balconies (that makes about 5 * 2.3m * 3 = 34 feet). I think none of them died. Some were under influence and one tried to commit suicide.

[Quester_X]

My family has a series of books called "The Library of Odd and Unusual Facts". In the book on luck, they had a story about a man jumping off the Empire State Building and living. The winds were so strong that day that when he jumped, he was slammed into the side of the building and landed on a ledge. He got in the building through a window, where he was rescued. Of course, he never claimed angels had anything to do with this.

[scribble]

Chareen says that was one mean Angel to catch him, then drop him on his head. Can you sue God and his team for malpractice?

[Pantastic]

Originally posted by scribble
Chareen says that was one mean Angel to catch him, then drop him on his head. Can you sue God and his team for malpractice?

Why didn't the angel just stop him falling in the first place? Seems a little incompetent to me. God needs serious words with his minions.

[DangerousBeliefs]

I can only think of...

1) Perhaps Bellevue needs to look at its pedestran safety more closely. A bridge to cross the busy road may be called for.

2) Why did the kid's parents let him run around wherever he wants, doing whatever he wants? This is a serious problem in the greater Omaha/Council Bluffs area (in my opinion).

3) Can't we teach these kids English? Oh wait, I forgot we're talking about Nebraska's educational system.

4) Does Riddick own a driver's license, and if so, where was he the day in question?

[triadboy]

I heard a story once about a parachutist surviving a fall from 15,000 ft or so.

[Ladewig]

Then let's have him test his faith in angels by jumping again.
_
"Were your faith the size of a mustard seed, you could say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it would obey you" (Lk. 17:6).

[evildave]

When the 13-year-old Bellevue student hit the concrete on the shoulder of the freeway underneath the Cornhusker Road overpass, he broke both his wrists, an elbow and his nose. He suffered a broken jaw, broken teeth and several bruises.

Nice catch!

And he's already had two surgeries and needs two more before he's released.

Good thing he landed on his head. More preciesly, his chin/chest after his arms broke his fall a bit.

Too bad the "angel" didn't stop him short of taking his little shortcut to misadventure.

Hitting pavement at 28 feet, there is a good chance of being badly injured, even crippled, but not of being killed.

People die routinely just falling off a 6' ladder or single story house roofs. Just happen to be a lot more people slipping off ladders than idiots jumping off overpasses.

Here are some incidents where people fell a long, long way and survived.
http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/unlucky.html

I guess the angels don't like scottsmen. Of course, the fall didn't kill him: the sea did.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2861982

[Ratman_tf]

If I fell 28 feet onto concrete I might see angels too. And aliens and tweety birds and all kindsa crazy ****.

[Ratman_tf]

Edgar said he feared for his life and started praying: "God, please help me."

He thinks his prayer was answered.

As he was falling, he felt pressure around his chest, as if someone was wrapping his arms around him. He remembers seeing long, blond hair, a very bright light and something that looked like wings to his side.


So when Edgar falls off an overpass, he prays and god sends one of his blonde haired blue eyes aryan nation angels with the wings and the flowing robes to save his ass. But the little anonymous abducted girl prays and gets raped and killed?

********.

Bull-***********-****.

[Kopji]

Ouch.
Faulty memory due to the concussion? The lights and long haired person might have been the paramedics.

We are left wondering about the wing physics required for a human sized object to fly. Maybe Angels are hollow.

And for something even more weird:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/angels/seraphim.html

[Zep]

Originally posted by Kopji
Ouch.
Faulty memory due to the concussion? The lights and long haired person might have been the paramedics.

We are left wondering about the wing physics required for a human sized object to fly. Maybe Angels are hollow. I thought I went through this with ANOTHER of these "I saw angels" people who ended up in hospital due to an accident. I'll try to find it...

No, I won't. Waste of time for these sorts of people.


OK, sure, it was angels caught him and stopped him being killed. They just let him get slightly wounded so as to not let him get off completely scot-free.

[roger]

50 feet is the commonly accepted 'death zone' point. I.e. if you fall less than 50 feet you have a chance of making it, but if you crater from 50 feet or higher your next visit will very likely be to the morgue. Not that people haven't survived higher falls, but it's unusual.

I know quite a few people who have survived falls in the 30+ foot range. So while I'm happy for the guy, there is nothing supernatural about surviving a 28 foot whipper.

[Riddick]

Christopher Reeve fell from about 6 feet, look at what shape he's in. No more autonomous breathing for him, a ventilator has to do it.

[espritch]

This reminded me of a story I heard some time back about a man who survived a fall from a bomber at 22,000 feet during WWII. A little Googling turned up a link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071076/posts

If someone can survive a 22,000 foot drop, a 28 foot drop should be a cake walk.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
this happened near where i live and wanted to hear your thoughts on this.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=1636&u_sid=1102959

explains the whole story
Since you're from Nebraska, I thought you might tell me who makes the best pizza in Nebraska. The answer would confirm you're from Nebraska. Of course, myself, living in Lincoln, I already know the answer.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Riddick
Since you're from Nebraska, I thought you might tell me who makes the best pizza in Nebraska. The answer would confirm you're from Nebraska. Of course, myself, living in Lincoln, I already know the answer.
Papa Murphey's pizza tastes like garbage.

[DangerousBeliefs]

Originally posted by Riddick

Since you're from Nebraska, I thought you might tell me who makes the best pizza in Nebraska. The answer would confirm you're from Nebraska. Of course, myself, living in Lincoln, I already know the answer.

I like Zios but it's overpriced and not completely Nebraskan.

Wouldn't eating a "Runza" be a better question? Mmmm... Runza. It's like Nebraska's answer for Scottish haggis.

[zer0vector]

I guess all the angels were busy:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/05/23/circus.accident/

[Riddick]

Originally posted by zer0vector
I guess all the angels were busy:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/05/23/circus.accident/
She was an atheist. :p

btw, That fall was from 35 feet.


yes, Runza definately Nebraskan

Valentino's Pizza --- Lincoln, NE; one of top 100 privately owned restaurants in the US
Godfather's Pizza --- also started in Nebraska

[DangerousBeliefs]

Originally posted by Riddick
yes, Runza definately Nebraskan

Yup, definitely a Nebraskan. :hit:


She was an atheist.

Yes, God finally struck her down after trying for many years....

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
this happened near where i live and wanted to hear your thoughts on this.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=1636&u_sid=1102959

explains the whole story

My thoughts. The guy is an idiot if he really believes this. As are you.

What really happened is that he fell and suffered a head injury. That caused him to think there was an angel.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by DangerousBeliefs

I like Zios but it's overpriced and not completely Nebraskan.


It's one of my annual stops when I go to see Mr Buffet.

[Dragonrock]

My brother-in-law fell off a roof and plunged 19 feet to the asphault. He landed on his side and didn't even break a bone. After an hour in the emergency room he went home and was sore for a couple of weeks. That a 13 year old kid survived a fall like that with broken bones doesn't surprise me.

[Thomas]

Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
What really happened is that he fell and suffered a head injury. That caused him to think there was an angel.
I like that theory, but people see angels all the time without banging their head to the asphalt (although, one could wonder if it happened at an earlier stage in their life of course). People see the most weird things when they are under heavy stress - I think this is one of those cases.

Another theory is that the angel part is simply a lie, 13 year old kids are known to have a few good stories now and then. If I had to pick, I would chose the traumatic stress syndrome one, though.

[Sundog]

Originally posted by zer0vector
I guess all the angels were busy:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/05/23/circus.accident/

No. Everyone knows God doesn't like show people.

[LFTKBS]

You should test that theory, billie. Go jump off something even higher.

[WinAce]

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest you may be aiming for an apologetic goal. If that's the case, I ask you to apply a bit of common sense.

If a paranormal entity sent by the creator of the universe itself cushioned the guy's fall, is there any particular reason he would still have broken a jaw, arms and several other things? That doesn't seem to happen too often when, say, the Green Lantern or Superman wisk falling people away from their doom. Could God's angels be less effective than Marvel characters?

Is it particularly improbable that, of all the people who fall to their deaths each year, out of which, statistically, 90% or so will believe in some kind of prayer-answering god, a few will survive with relatively minor injuries by sheer luck and attribute their fate to the god? (See the Law of Large Numbers (http://skepdic.com/lawofnumbers.html) entry at the Skeptic's Dictionary.)

Finally, who do we blame for the opposite kind of 'miracle'--like the one where an everyday paper cut, one that should heal in mere hours, improbably develops into a full-blown, eventually fatal flesh-eating bacteria infection? If unlikely recoveries and saves should be attributed to "angels," then what about the opposite--is Satan busy running around making people (ironically) die from airbag impacts and not the car accident itself, for example?

One more thing should be noted. We'd probably be more inclined to believe an eyewitness who didn't get a serious concussion right after seeing something weird. Or if there were others who saw the same thing. Or, the best case scenario, if something other than easily modified and highly suggestible human memory recorded the incident.

The above is even assuming the basic account of the story is true--and stories involving anomalous events of this nature tend to get exaggerated beyond recognition at an amazingly rapid pace.