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scotth
13th March 2003, 01:27 PM
You can find the Texas Constitution at: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/toc.html

If you select Article 1 - Bill of Rights, and then Sec. 4 - Religion Tests you will find this:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

Does this appear to be a contradiction to anyone besides me?

It is my opinion that we need to find an agnostic or athiest willing to run for some/any minor public office in the state. Then we need to bring this to court and get it amended (at least).

It should be an easy legal slam dunk. Compare to Article VI of US Constitution:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

It may be that someone only has to have the intent to run for office before this could be brought to court. If you're a lawyer, feel free to chime in here. I am unclear on if it would be consider mute until someone had actually won an office or not.

zakur
13th March 2003, 01:45 PM
It's not just Texas. Check out: Religious Discrimination in State Constitutions (http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm)

Regardless, I believe the 1st Amendment supersedes any of this discriminatory language in the state constitutions.

scotth
13th March 2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by zakur
It's not just Texas. Check out: Religious Discrimination in State Constitutions (http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm)

Regardless, I believe the 1st Amendment supersedes any of this discriminatory language in the state constitutions.

I was aware of the others as well, but... as I don't live in any of those states, I only brought up Texas for action.

I would agree that it would be a good idea to do the same in those states as well.

Skeptical Greg
13th March 2003, 02:18 PM
quote:
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No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
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( my bold...)


I would think the -- "he" , might be a problem?

fishbob
13th March 2003, 02:24 PM
acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being It does not say which one. And they can't ask. So you could acknowledge Diana Ross or a Taco Bell burrito.

kerfer
13th March 2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
quote:
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No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
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( my bold...)


I would think the -- "he" , might be a problem?

Not really. In this context he means a person,without regard to gender.

It's only the politically correct idiots that have a problem with usage like this.

Congressperson? :mad: Chairperson? :mad:

fishbob
13th March 2003, 09:25 PM
I would think the -- "he" , might be a problem? I thought that meant that the ladies didn't have to do any acknowledging. Oops.

TexasBEAST
14th March 2003, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by fishbob
It does not say which one. And they can't ask. So you could acknowledge Diana Ross or a Taco Bell burrito.
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