Ray Bradbury calls Michael Moore a horrible human being.

[DaChew]

In this translation of an article from the Swedish daily Dagens Nyheter, Author Ray Bradbury attacks Moore for stealing the title of his new "documentary".

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38776

It appears the forthright and always classy Moore wouldn't even return a phone call from Bradbury.

"Michael Moore is a screwed a--hole, that is what I think about that case," Bradbury said according to an English translation of the story. "He stole my title and changed the numbers without ever asking me for permission."

[Tmy]

Its and f-'n paradoy!!!!! If hes so pissed why doesnt he sue.?/ (Which he'll lose)

[HarryKeogh]

World Net Daily, great source. While there I signed up for the Conservative Book Club and found out how atheists are responsible for the ills of society.

The title is satirical. It's legal and is not stealing.

Tough luck to Ray Bradbury.

[Kerberos]

In other news Peter Keglevic the director of the 1990 film “Kill Cruise” has complained that Quentin Tarantino is stealing his title, the Tv-series Dr. Who has been accused of ripping of the James Bond movie Dr. No, American has announced that Elton John is totally copying REO Speedwagon, and the ghost of George Orwell has announced, through John Edwards, his intention of suing Athur C. Clarce, claiming that he simply changed the number and added the words “a space odyssey”.

[Nasarius]

He stole my title and changed the numbers
Well, duh. He "stole" the tagline too. That's the point.

[VicDaring]

Originally posted by Kerberos
...American has announced that Elton John is totally copying REO Speedwagon...

Nicely done.

[LFTKBS]

Has Bradbury lost his mind? What about the subtitle to his book A Graveyard for Lunatics: Another Tale of Two Cities? Did he just come up with that one out of nowhere?

Too bad that a pretty good author is now a senile old hypocrite.

Or, you know, WND is lying, which is certainly possible.

[Nasarius]

Originally posted by LFTKBS
Too bad that a pretty good author is now a senile old hypocrite.

Or, you know, WND is lying, which is certainly possible.

Especially:
The people there hate us, which is why they gave him the d'Or.

If Bradbury actually said all this, he certainly doesn't seem like the same man who wrote Fahrenheit 451 and commented on the irony of it being censored.

[tamiO]

Originally posted by Kerberos
In other news Peter Keglevic the director of the 1990 film “Kill Cruise” has complained that Quentin Tarantino is stealing his title, the Tv-series Dr. Who has been accused of ripping of the James Bond movie Dr. No, American has announced that Elton John is totally copying REO Speedwagon, and the ghost of George Orwell has announced, through John Edwards, his intention of suing Athur C. Clarce, claiming that he simply changed the number and added the words “a space odyssey”.

LOLOLOL

I am not having the best of days but just wanted to say you really made me laugh.

edited to add: Sorry American, but it was funny this time. context, you know. ;)

[Anders]

Bradbury is pissed because Moore stole the title, nothing more, nothing less. Bradbury says not much about politics but it seems he is a right-wing democrat, supporting Wesley Clark.

[Mr Manifesto]

Uh... I'd be calling 'bullsh!t'. This really doesn't sound like something Ray Bradbury would get worked up over. I think everyone should take a breath and read "Something Wicked this way Comes".

[KelvinG]

I also heard that ex-heavyweight boxing champ Michael Moorer is pissed as well since he has the same name as Moore (spelt slightly different of course).

[DaChew]

OK. Then it's decided. We'll attack Bradbury for being offended that Moore didn't even have the common decency to return a phone call and World Net Daily for reporting the story from a foreign news source. Also, we'll be sure to not even consider that Moore was wrong to steal the title without permission from a great author and icon of science fiction.

[DaChew]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Uh... I'd be calling 'bullsh!t'. This really doesn't sound like something Ray Bradbury would get worked up over. I think everyone should take a breath and read "Something Wicked this way Comes".

You know, you're right. I'll give it some time to see how the story shakes out. If Bradbury is truly angry it'll be picked up by the press.

[shemp]

And why doesn't Cadbury sue Ray Bradbury?

[Jessica Blue]

More *Moore Sucks* threads...will they never end?

Criticism of Moores films...3%
Criticism of Moore the man...97%

[KelvinG]

Originally posted by DaChew
OK. Then it's decided. We'll attack Bradbury for being offended that Moore didn't even have the common decency to return a phone call and World Net Daily for reporting the story from a foreign news source. Also, we'll be sure to not even consider that Moore was wrong to steal the title without permission from a great author and icon of science fiction.

In all seriousness, I think part of the problem is that there is so much anti-Moore sentiment on this board that it becomes a little tiresome to have to comment on every new "revelation" that come out.
The same can be said for Prez Bush. A lot of the pro-Bush posters don't even bother participating in the latest Bush bashing thread since there are so many of them. Like that thread where Bush was accused of lying about the weather when he had that fall. It's like "how much dirt can we dig up on someone, no matter how trivial" (and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really like Bush)

I think a point gets reached with certain topics where it's easier just to laugh at them, or ignore them all together.

[Skeptic]

Too bad that a pretty good author is now a senile old hypocrite.

On second though, let's wait and see. Surely Bradbury knows that satirical titles are not copyright violation.

[UserGoogol]

Actually, there was a book called "The Cat NOT in the Hat" or something which parodied the OJ Simpson trial, and it was found to be breaking Dr. Seuss's (estate's) rights to "The Cat in the Hat," because it wasn't parodying The Cat in the Hat.

But it's stupid, even if Bradbury has a legal leg to stand on. Once you create something, it enters the domain of culture. If you can't refer to some bit of culture, something's very wrong with that.

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by tamiO


LOLOLOL

I am not having the best of days but just wanted to say you really made me laugh.
Glad I could cheer you up. :rub:

[Cain]

I sometimes can't believe the strident attempts made by Moore's unthinking apologists to excuse the unexcusable. What horrible human beings. Fatso didn't return an elderly man's phone call! He clearly snubbed Bradbury, further proving that Moore is in fact the anti-christ.

(How many times did Bradbury attempt to contact Moore on this most important of topics? I think the _WND_ article omits part of the interview where Bradbury says he did not support Clark.)

[shemp]

(Rotters News Service) -- Benjamin Moore & Co., and Moore College of Art and Design, and AC Moore Craft Stores have all filed suit against Michael Moore for use of their name. Meanwhile, Michael Moore has filed suit against George Michaels, who has filed suit against Jeff George, who has filed suit against Jif Peanut Butter, who have filed suit against the estate of Charles Schultz, who have filed suit against Schlitz Beer.

[Batman Jr.]

Dyed-in-the-wool ultraconservative authors—take Ann Coulter for example—have a nasty penchant for just making stuff up about people. I wouldn't want to rely on the allegations of any one publication, especially if that publication is the WorldNetDaily.

[Regnad Kcin]

Originally posted by LFTKBS
Has Bradbury lost his mind? What about the subtitle to his book A Graveyard for Lunatics: Another Tale of Two Cities? Did he just come up with that one out of nowhere?Precisely! Why, it's especially ironic to me considering I recently enjoyed quite an, er, educational film entitled A Tale of Two Ti**ies! (BTW, two thumbs up!)

[Regnad Kcin]

In line with Shemp's news item a few posts above, I wonder who holds domain over the Bush trademark -- the political family, or the baked bean company (http://www.bushbeans.com/)? Seems to me a fair decision would be to award it to whichever of the parties is responsible for the greater amount of gaseous emissions.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Batman Jr.
Dyed-in-the-wool ultraconservative authors—take Ann Coulter for example—have a nasty penchant for just making stuff up about people. I wouldn't want to rely on the allegations of any one publication, especially if that publication is the WorldNetDaily. But in this case it is the Swedish Dagens Nyheter. I just read it, and could see no cheating in the translation to English.

[zakur]

From here (http://movies.go.com/movies/F/fahrenheit911_2004/):Author Ray Bradbury thinks Michael Moore's title will confuse people with his classic sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 and he wants Moore to change it. "He can't have my title," said Bradbury. "We've got an important film coming out [Fahrenheit 451], the book's having its 50th anniversary in October. If he wants his movie to be an homage to me, why not title it, 'Bradbury, where the hell are you now that we need you?'" (Variety)

[Batman Jr.]

Bjorn,

Do you know what kind of reputation the Swedish newspaper has?

[zakur]

Bradbury fans discuss the issue:

http://www.raybradbury.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001047-2.html

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Batman Jr.
Bjorn,

Do you know what kind of reputation the Swedish newspaper has? As far as I know, serious. I checked the front page for today and there is no 'tabloidical'(TM) stuff there at all.

The interview was on the phone, and the quotes from Bradbury seem to be verbatim. Maybe some Swedish members could confirm?

[Skeptic]

Author Ray Bradbury thinks Michael Moore's title will confuse people with his classic sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 and he wants Moore to change it. "He can't have my title," said Bradbury. "We've got an important film coming out [Fahrenheit 451]

It seems that Bradbury's anger is not that Moore's film has a similar title to the old novel, but that Moore's film will have a similar title to a new film based on the novel with the same title. In that case, his anger is much more justified.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Skeptic
...

It seems that Bradbury's anger is not that Moore's film has a similar title to the old novel, but that Moore's film will have a similar title to a new film based on the novel with the same title. In that case, his anger is much more justified. What? A new version of the movie? Nooooo! Who’s making it? Who's in it? Imdb.com has no details.

The 1966 version, François Truffault's only English language movie, has most unusual opening credits. They're entirely verbal, spoken against a background of a forest of roof-tops and TV antennas. It's a curious relic of its moment in film history and also timeless and wonderful. The scene where the Book Lady burns in her house rather than live without her books is as gut-wrenching for the audience as it is for the hero, Montag.

Of course the credit goes to the genius and passion of Ray Bradbury. He's a literary hero and his books are among the first adult literature I read as a child (the next step after Asimov's I, Robot and Foundation trilogy). I don't know if this dumb story about Moore is true, but if so, I don't care.

Here's to you, Mr. Bradbury! If you're a crotchety old coot who gets pissy about people appropriating your legacy, then that's your prerogative.

[zakur]

Originally posted by hgc
What? A new version of the movie? Nooooo! Who’s making it? Who's in it? Imdb.com has no details. http://www.villagefair.com/MelGibson/movies/f451.htm

http://www.starseeker.com/films/fahre451.htm

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/1435

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808403955&intl=us

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/358/358160p1.html?fromint=1

[hgc]

Originally posted by zakur
http://www.villagefair.com/MelGibson/movies/f451.htm

http://www.starseeker.com/films/fahre451.htm

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/1435

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808403955&intl=us

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/358/358160p1.html?fromint=1 Oh, Mel Gibson directs. Great. Gibson craps on the memory of Truffault. I am sickened.

[Skeptic]

I suppose it's ironic that I, like many people I know, have not actually read the book Farenheit 491... but have seen the movie. I don't know how faithful it is to the book, but the movie is superb in itself.