Ronald Reagan - Prediction

[Lucianarchy]

I percieve a 'funeral'.

[DangerousBeliefs]

Wow, you are good.


Do you see a funeral in the Pope's future too?

[ShowMe]

Wow, predicting there will be a funeral 2 hours after his death is announced.

Post-cognition is truly an under-investigated phenomenon.

[Martin]

:D

Come on guys, Luci may not be our most popular poster, but that was clearly humour.

[demon]

Nice one Luci;)

[Chad Noles]

Everybody sing:.....I been in the wrong place.........but it must have been the right time.......;)

[DangerousBeliefs]

Originally posted by Martin
:D

Come on guys, Luci may not be our most popular poster, but that was clearly humour.

Really? How can you tell?

[shemp]

I predict there is a funeral in all our futures.

[Tricky]

Yes it was humor. I agree.

But it brings up a point, since this is the paranormal forum. Will anyone claim to contact the spirit of Reagan? If so, will they get the almost brain-dead Reagan of the last few years, or an earlier version?

In fact, can you contact the spirit of a truly brain dead person, or does their soul stick around until the other parts die? If so, why?

Not meant to dishonor Reagan. I save that for the political threads.

[DangerousBeliefs]

Originally posted by Tricky
Yes it was humor. I agree.

But it brings up a point, since this is the paranormal forum. Will anyone claim to contact the spirit of Reagan? If so, will they get the almost brain-dead Reagan of the last few years, or an earlier version?

In fact, can you contact the spirit of a truly brain dead person, or does their soul stick around until the other parts die? If so, why?

Not meant to dishonor Reagan. I save that for the political threads.

Stupid materialist question. Of course we'll get the young, vibrant Reagan. There is absolutely no connection between the functions of the brain and those of the mind/soul.

:D

[Ladewig]

If so, will they get the almost brain-dead Reagan of the last few years, or an earlier version?

Given the number of times JVP and SB have passed messages that said, "I can walk better now," (or more precisely, "I can walk better now, do you understand?") I am confident that ADCers will always contact the spry, alert, clever RR. On the other hand, he will still be aware of all the things that happened while he was deteriorating. So, I imagine he will have some cross words for the congress-critters who refused to allow stem cell research.

[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by Martin
:D

Come on guys, Luci may not be our most popular poster, but that was clearly humour.

If it were anyone else, I'd assume so. With Luci... *Shrugs*

[kookbreaker]

Originally posted by shemp
I predict there is a funeral in all our futures.

Does being shoved into an unmarked grave in the middle of the night qualify as a 'funeral'?

If not, I say "you are a fraud, psychic-boi!"

[JPK]

Originally posted by Tricky
Yes it was humor. I agree.

But it brings up a point, since this is the paranormal forum. Will anyone claim to contact the spirit of Reagan? If so, will they get the almost brain-dead Reagan of the last few years, or an earlier version?

In fact, can you contact the spirit of a truly brain dead person, or does their soul stick around until the other parts die? If so, why?

Not meant to dishonor Reagan. I save that for the political threads.

Last week John Edward was on CNN. He was asked about this type of thing.

quote from cnn:

COOPER: This one's from Roseanne (ph) in Washington. "My baby died in 1972. When I see him again will he be a baby or an adult?"

EDWARD: That's one of the top questions that people often ask me and I think it depends upon how her perception will be. If I do a reading for somebody who lost a 10-year-old child and it's five years later or ten years later, I might say to them, you know, oh you lost a 20-year-old, you have a 20-year-old son who's passed?

Even though the child was ten, they might come through to me as how old they would be if they were still here or it could be they'll come through as that same 10-year-old child. I believe we have what's called soul recognition so we'll be able to recognize the energy of the person by -- who they are energy wise.

So there will be a complete recognition and maybe she would have to see the energy of that person and she would recognize her son as being the baby that he was before she -- before that kind of like that -- that aspect of him personality wise would be shed.

end quote:

This seems to give mediums a lot of wiggle room. he says it depends on the perception of the sitter.

From every "reading" I've ever wittnessed, I'd say they only get through to a brain dead person. The dead can't seem to actually give any information at all, that is of course unless you count "I'm getting something that starts with an "h" or an "h sounding name..."

JPK

[TheBoyPaj]

Originally posted by kookbreaker
Does being shoved into an unmarked grave in the middle of the night qualify as a 'funeral'?

Only if it's just outside the walls of the graveyard. ;)

[Powa]

Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
Only if it's just outside the walls of the graveyard. ;)
And does your brother have to paint an ideomotoric painting about it, before it happens?

[TheBoyPaj]

Before, after. Who's counting?

[Interesting Ian]

Originally posted by Tricky
Yes it was humor. I agree.

But it brings up a point, since this is the paranormal forum. Will anyone claim to contact the spirit of Reagan? If so, will they get the almost brain-dead Reagan of the last few years, or an earlier version?

In fact, can you contact the spirit of a truly brain dead person, or does their soul stick around until the other parts die? If so, why?

Not meant to dishonor Reagan. I save that for the political threads.

Obviously you wouldn't get either. You would get the true Reagan. Which gives us a good reason not to attempt any contact.

[Irish Murdoch]

Originally posted by DangerousBeliefs


Stupid materialist question. Of course we'll get the young, vibrant Reagan. There is absolutely no connection between the functions of the brain and those of the mind/soul.

:D

But then why do we get a Reagan identical to the one with a good brain? ;)

[Interesting Ian]

Originally posted by Irish Murdoch


But then why do we get a Reagan identical to the one with a good brain? ;)

What does the quote by Russell mean? Is it referring to war? The first world war perhaps?

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Interesting Ian
Obviously you wouldn't get either. You would get the true Reagan. Which gives us a good reason not to attempt any contact.
Obviously? Not obvious to me at all. If it is the "true Reagan", is it the soul of Reagan, devoid of any of the memories of his life, including his name? If it has some memories of Reagan's life, then which ones? Where does it start and stop?

Most mediums try to convince the sitter that they are indeed talking to the spirit of the deceased by suggesting details of their life (such as their initials). That definately indicates to me that most mediums believe that some memory survives death. (Well, assuming that the medium truly believes in their own power and are not out and out con artists.)

So Ian, (if you are not ignoring this post), how would you determine if the consciousness you were talking to belonged to the human you remember unless they remember something of their most recent life?

[Interesting Ian]

Originally posted by Tricky
[B]
Obviously? Not obvious to me at all. If it is the "true Reagan", is it the soul of Reagan, devoid of any of the memories of his life, including his name? If it has some memories of Reagan's life, then which ones? Where does it start and stop?



I suspect he would have all memories of everything he has ever experienced. Support for this thesis is provided by the life review in NDE's.



So Ian, (if you are not ignoring this post), how would you determine if the consciousness you were talking to belonged to the human you remember unless they remember something of their most recent life?

Difficult.

[demon]

quote;)

SAN FRANCISCO, CA (IWR News Parody) - Joan Quigley, the official White House astrologer of the Reagan presidency, on Friday predicted the the demise of Ronald Reagan on Saturday. Unfortunately, Ms. Quigley's press agent said that Joan's web server was down due to a denial of service attack, and she was unable to post her prediction on time.

Link: http://www.internetweekly.org/2004/06/cartoon_reagan_astrologer.html

[Loki]

Tricky,

Don't forget that Ian believes that "gender" is a characteristic of our material realm, not the spirit 'self', so you'd get a kind of androgenous Reagan.

Of coruse, JE doesn't agree with this - he has no trouble getting the gender and age of the 'spirit'.

[Irish Murdoch]

Originally posted by Interesting Ian


What does the quote by Russell mean? Is it referring to war? The first world war perhaps?

Ian,

I'm not aware that it does refer to the war, but I guess it could, given Russell's pacifism. Interesting interpretation--I've never looked at it in that way before.

I've always taken it to mean one of two things:

(1) Many people get to the end of their lives never having thought;

OR

(2) Many people, since they don't think, end up "dead" while alive--intellectually dead, we might say.

But your interpretation is a good one, and may well capture what Russell meant.

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
I percieve a 'funeral'. Plus ca change. A general Luci prediction that could apply to any series of events.

Note that no time or date is given.

No number of bodies given.

Doesn’t say how big the funeral will be; State or small family.

She will probably claim a hit on cremation even though most people would read her prediction as a burial.

Doesn’t exactly say whose funeral it will be. We know that psychic messages transcend time. The message could be an old one and it is Ronny attending a funeral in the past.

[Doctor X]

The dead can't seem to actually give any information at all, that is of course unless you count "I'm getting something that starts with an "h" or an "h sounding name..."

Wait . . . I KNOW SOMETHING THAT STARTS WITH "H"!!!!!!

--J. "Hokum?" "Hooey?" D.

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by Loki
Of coruse, JE doesn't agree with this - he has no trouble getting the gender and age of the 'spirit'.

The spirit's designation using the Latin alphabet apparently survives death as well. Or, at least, the first few letters...

[Blue Monk]

Originally posted by Doctor X


Wait . . . I KNOW SOMETHING THAT STARTS WITH "H"!!!!!!

--J. "Hokum?" "Hooey?" D.

"Humbug", "Hogwash", "Humdinger"

[Doctor X]

JE channels things we BOTH know!!!!

--J.D.