Couldn't get into vet school?

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Never mind. The world of woo is waiting for you...

http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com//forum_posts.asp?TID=1583

[Rolfe]

:cry:

Rolfe.

[shemp]

That poor cat doesn't stand a chance in the hands of those **********.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by shemp
That poor cat doesn't stand a chance in the hands of those **********.

We can always hope for trivial illness being dramatised by an enthusiastic woo- always best to say it's at Death's door, then when it recovers the miracle is even more convincing.

[Rolfe]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
We can always hope for trivial illness being dramatised by an enthusiastic woo- always best to say it's at Death's door, then when it recovers the miracle is even more convincing. I think that one's on the nail. Later posts describe an improving situation, the only oddity is that the poster doesn't seems to be crediting the mish-mash of remedies and vitamins she administered for the improvement.

You know, my cat was six last week and he's never had any evil allopathic medication at all and he's absolutely in the pink of health! (Oops, I forgot the evil allopathic vaccines and the occasional dose of evil allopathic anthelmintic, on the cobbler's children principle....)

Rolfe.

[LostAngeles]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Never mind. The world of woo is waiting for you...

http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com//forum_posts.asp?TID=1583

I just took in two born-feral little boys, but I'm willing to save that kitty too.

The (adult)people who subject themselves to homeopathy have a choice, at least, not to mention we can always try and convince them that an actual doctor is in their best interest. Cats, dogs, babies and children don't.

[geni]

Originally posted by LostAngeles


I just took in two born-feral little boys, but I'm willing to save that kitty too.

The (adult)people who subject themselves to homeopathy have a choice, at least, not to mention we can always try and convince them that an actual doctor is in their best interest. Cats, dogs, babies and children don't.

http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1573&PN=1

[Rolfe]

Originally posted by geni
http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1573&PN=1 Omigod!!!

At least the kid seems to be getting real treatment as well, but it's all pretty scary.

Rolfe.

[Suezoled]

I couldn't get into vet school. Then I found an unlocked door. It was a nice vet school (Cornell being really really nice). But alas, I still need to earn my undergrad anyway. And, well, I don't think I'm aiming for veterinary anyway. But it's a nice vet school anyway.

[Eos of the Eons]

No actual diagnosis quoted for either. Don't know which microbes are affecting the cat, and it sounds very infected-even has gingivitus.

They are shooting in the dark with empty guns. What a useless bunch of woo.

[Bowser]

"Last night's post was written with such desperation feeling sure the new cat was a goner. Less than 24 hours later, am very happy to announce he is totally without any breathing difficulty, sneezing gone, appetite great, eyes clear, very happy kitty.....completely different cat! Temperature went up to 104.5 today, highest it's been since ill (no more remedy given though) while acting like the world was his oyster. Now even that has gone down to normal."

Guess you folks can stop worrying about mistreatment and go back to sleep. (BSM, I'm sure it really burns you that the little guy is just fine now.)

[Prester John]

Its quite amazing what an immune system can accomplish isn't it.

[Bowser]

...when assisted by the right remedy. Yes indeedy! (Afterall, none of you thought that *nothing* should be done, so none of you thought it would resolve on its own. And it didn't. Her treatments worked!)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Bowser
"Last night's post was written with such desperation feeling sure the new cat was a goner. Less than 24 hours later, am very happy to announce he is totally without any breathing difficulty, sneezing gone, appetite great, eyes clear, very happy kitty.....completely different cat! Temperature went up to 104.5 today, highest it's been since ill (no more remedy given though) while acting like the world was his oyster. Now even that has gone down to normal."

Guess you folks can stop worrying about mistreatment and go back to sleep. (BSM, I'm sure it really burns you that the little guy is just fine now.)

In case you have forgotten, I said,

" We can always hope for trivial illness being dramatised by an enthusiastic woo- always best to say it's at Death's door, then when it recovers the miracle is even more convincing."

Cat with pyrexia and big lymph nodes gets better!

It's hardly time to organise a parade.

The points this post was getting at are

1. The bizarre notions of medicine evidenced by all parties in that thread

2. The woefully improper use of homeopathy by a self-advertised expert.

[Prester John]

Of course to see whether homeopathy was effective you should take 2 groups, treat 1 with homeopathy, the other placebo, blind everyone and see what happens.

I've got a feeling that if you do that the effects of homeopathy diminish somewhat.

And actually you're above post is a strawman, i think one of the working theories was that the illness had been overegged, in which case it most likely would get better by itself. We'll never know really, which is why you need ..........

[Benguin]

(Afterall, none of you thought that *nothing* should be done, so none of you thought it would resolve on its own. And it didn't. Her treatments worked!)

Post hoc ergo proctor hoc moving to converting a conditional ...

I think you'll find people and animals will often manage to recover on their own, unassisted, from all sorts of illnesses. Even very severe and life-threatening ones.

Medical professionals will still treat, and recommend treatment, to minimise risk, reduce the time and intensity of suffering and reduce the possibility of long term damage.

All the things that seeking homeopathic remedies will place in you direct danger of ...

[Bowser]

Ah, but Benguin, the person in question was being trashed for not having sought "proper" (and very expensive) veterinary help. So nice to know that y'all think recovery was going to happen anyway, eh? Anything but admitting that the homeopathic care had any impact at all.

[Prester John]

Originally posted by Bowser
Ah, but Benguin, the person in question was being trashed for not having sought "proper" (and very expensive) veterinary help. So nice to know that y'all think recovery was going to happen anyway, eh? Anything but admitting that the homeopathic care had any impact at all.

And you're suggesting that there is no other explanation except the homeopathetic intervention !

What would convince you that it wasn't a homeopathic success?

[Benguin]

So nice to know that y'all think recovery was going to happen anyway

Errr, no. We are suggesting it is a possibility that has to be ruled out before postulating the (unlikely) theory that drips of tapwater might have a curative property.

Occam's razor.

[geni]

Originally posted by Bowser
"Last night's post was written with such desperation feeling sure the new cat was a goner. Less than 24 hours later, am very happy to announce he is totally without any breathing difficulty, sneezing gone, appetite great, eyes clear, very happy kitty.....completely different cat! Temperature went up to 104.5 today, highest it's been since ill (no more remedy given though) while acting like the world was his oyster. Now even that has gone down to normal."

Guess you folks can stop worrying about mistreatment and go back to sleep. (BSM, I'm sure it really burns you that the little guy is just fine now.)

So the cat got luckly this time. Your sure the same is going to happen next time?

[LostAngeles]

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Originally posted by LostAngeles


I just took in two born-feral little boys, but I'm willing to save that kitty too.

The (adult)people who subject themselves to homeopathy have a choice, at least, not to mention we can always try and convince them that an actual doctor is in their best interest. Cats, dogs, babies and children don't.
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Originally posted by geni



http://homeopathyforums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1573&PN=1

Before I look at that, I'm going to say, "Please god. Let it be a thirteen year old twit."

Looking:

I'm getting a "Cannot find server." I'll get back to you.

Edited because I suck.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Bowser
Ah, but Benguin, the person in question was being trashed for not having sought "proper" (and very expensive) veterinary help. So nice to know that y'all think recovery was going to happen anyway, eh? Anything but admitting that the homeopathic care had any impact at all.

Forgot to point out that I frequently see cats with a few days non-specific pyrexia that does not go on to a full diagnosis because it just gets better. Usually they get a single injection of NSAID and sometimes S/C or I/V fluids if they are severely ill.

Do I think I cure them? I am not so hopelessly naive. Nature's a wonderful thing, ain't it!

I often feel sorry for Mother Nature, she must get so p*ssed off when the homeopaths muscle in and try to take the credit.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by Bowser
Ah, but Benguin, the person in question was being trashed for not having sought "proper" (and very expensive) veterinary help. So nice to know that y'all think recovery was going to happen anyway, eh? Anything but admitting that the homeopathic care had any impact at all.

Ah, are we back to this old song and dance? "It works it works give it credit." Explain for me, then, this poor biology student, how and why did it work?
Oh, and since things may or may not be expensive, that makes it bad...how? Or good, as homeopathic quackers can and many times do make a killing (sometimes literally) selling sugar pills and bottled water.

[scribble]

A few days after arrival he developed sour, frequent diarrhea.


I couldn't read past that. sour? Who tasted it?!

[Benguin]

Does he mean scour ? Means diarrhea in some farm animals, didn't realise the term was also used for cats though.