Muscleman's JREF Challenge is here

[Dub]

Muscleman finally posted his JREF challenge after some 1000 posts. Im re-posting it here as some people may be unaware that he has finally posted it. Below is his challlenge:


ANYWAYS... MY 1 MILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE WILL BE FIRST DESCRIBED AS A STORY.. HERE IT GOES...

THERE WAS A GUY BY THE NAME OF MUSCLEMAN... ONE DAY HE THOUGHT TO HIMSELF "WHAT AM I CAPABLE OF? WHAT IS FAITH? IS FAITH NOT FEARING ANYTHING U PUT YOUR MIND INTO IT?"..

SO MUSCLEMAN ONE DAY THOUGHT WENT TO A HOUSE ALONE ( WHICH IS BELIEVED TO BE HAUNTED) AND STAYED THERE, WENT TO THE PLACE WHERE THERE WAS A MIRROR (A SINK CLOSE TO THE BATHROOM), STARED AT THE MIRROR LOOKING AT HIS REFLECTION ALONE.... STAYED THERE FOR AS LONG AS HE CAN CONQUER FEAR..

DURING THOSE TIMES, MUSCLEMAN HEARD NOISES, FROM CRACKLING, TO BUMPING (WHICH COULD BE MOUSE, OR SOMETHING ELSE)... HIS FACE AS HE LOOKED IN THE MIRROR LITERALLY TURNED BLOOD RED...

BUT ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, HE CONCQUERED IT, AND NO LONGER IS MUSCLEMAN AFRAID OF THE DARK...

SECOND MOVE IS FACING A BIG BULLY. MUSCLEMAN CHALLENGED HIM FOR A WRESTLING (TOGETHER WITH THE CROWDS), AFTER 4 TRIES, MUSCLES MAN BEAT HIM 3 TIMES, WHILE THE BULLY ONLY WON ONCE... (6' 3 LINEMAN FOOTBALL PLAYER, HE KNOWS FROM THE OLD DAYS), HE CALLED HIM ON THE PHONE AFTERWARDS, TALKED TO HIM, AND THE BULLY IF NOT AFRAID, HAVE A BIG RESPECT FOR HIM...

THIRD MOVE WAS KNOWING HIS STRENGTH.. HE WAS AT FIRST IN DOUBT AND AFRAID, BUT HE DECIDED TO BENCH 400 LBS, WITHOUT FEARING IF HE CAN DO IT, OR NOT IN FRON OF CROWDS (IN THE GYM)...

AND SO HE LIFTED, AND LIFTED, AND LIFTED...

MUSCLEMAN IS 5' 7, 187 LBS, HE MEASURED HIS LEGS, WHICH IS EACH 26 INCHES IN CIRCUMFERENCE (HE MEASURED IT YESTERDAY...). SO HE GOT HUGE LEGS...

MUSCLEMAN ALSO MEASURED HIS BICEPS, WHICH MEASURED ABOUT 16 INCHES (CLOSE TO IT)...


HIS WASTE IS 34 INCHES, ITS FATTY, BECAUSE HE GAINED ALOT OF FAT WEIGHT (HE IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE IF WEIGHING 175 LBS.)

NOW HOW MANY TIMES CAN MUSCLEMAN BENCH PRESS 400 LBS?

HE CAN DO IT 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES...

400 LBS MULTIPLIED BY 15 IS EQUALS TO 6,000. 6,000 MULTIPLIED BY 10 IS EQUALS TO 60,000 LBS!!

SO MUSCLEMAN CAN BENCH PRESS 60,000 LBS IN UNDER 30 MINUTES!!!

WOW!

THATS MUSCLEMAN'S SUPERNATURAL CLAIM...

NOW, HE CAN SEND A COPY OF A VIDEO TAPE AND DO IT IN THE GYM WHERE HE WORKSOUT, OR. HE CAN PERFORM IT LIVE FOR JAMES RANDI..

AS FAR AS MUSCLEMAN KNOWS, NOBODY IN PLANET EARTH HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BENCH PRESS THAT MUCH AT SUCH A SMALL SIZE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS..

NOW, WILL THIS BE APPROVED TO BE A 1MILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE? OR NOT?

[ScottDYelich]

but he is not lifting 60,000 ... he's lifting 400 lbs a bunch of times.

if mm could lift 60,000 lbs at once using only his human
muscles directly, then we might consider this...

but as it is now, he's still confused.

Please, lets not waste any more time on this guy.

Scott

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I can touch my knees without bending my toes. How much money is that worth??

[neutrino_cannon]

How much force can human muscle tissue exert if it's used to it's absolute maximun potential? I guess the best way to test would be to take some lab grown muscle tissue and give it an electric shock, and a fairly large one. That would give you some baseline number to start with.

[Stimpson J. Cat]

so let me get this straight... There are still some people on this board who don't realize that Muscleman is just pulling our chains? :confused:

Dr. Stupid

[Bjorn]

AS FAR AS MUSCLEMAN KNOWS, NOBODY IN PLANET EARTH HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BENCH PRESS THAT MUCH AT SUCH A SMALL SIZE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS.. Hmm.

Even if I believed his numbers: Would this mean that anyone with a world record in something could claim SUPERNATURAL forces? Like the man who runs the fastest marathon, or 100 meters?

'NOBODY IN PLANET EARTH DID EVER SWIM THE ENGLISH CHANNEL FASTER THAN HIM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIZE OF HIS BUM! IT MUST BE SUPERNATURAL!'

Seriously, hundreds of artists in the circus world are doing unique acts?

[gentlehorse]

Muscleman quote, posted byDub:
NOW HOW MANY TIMES CAN MUSCLEMAN BENCH PRESS 400 LBS?

HE CAN DO IT 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES...

Impressive, if true, MM. The most I could ever bench was 215. I always said I could have benched more if my arms weren't so long. Don't know that that's true, but that was my story and I see no reason to give up on it now.

At any rate, I'm sure that Mr. Randi will be quick to award you the money, assuming that you're able to perform this feat using only (meaning only) the power of your mind.

Do you rip up phone books, blow up hot water bottles until they burst, and break cinder blocks with your head as well?

[Dub]

tbh I dont even think mm knows what a bench press really is.


AS FAR AS MUSCLEMAN KNOWS, NOBODY IN PLANET EARTH HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BENCH PRESS THAT MUCH AT SUCH A SMALL SIZE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS..

Like, WTF does the size of your legs have to do with how much you can bench?

He even manages to contradict himself about how big he supposedly is:


MUSCLEMAN IS 5' 7, 187 LBS, HE MEASURED HIS LEGS, WHICH IS EACH 26 INCHES IN CIRCUMFERENCE (HE MEASURED IT YESTERDAY...). SO HE GOT HUGE LEGS...

MUSCLEMAN ALSO MEASURED HIS BICEPS, WHICH MEASURED ABOUT 16 INCHES (CLOSE TO IT)...


So big legs and fairly big arms (if thats not all fat), should be quite strong then. But wait...


AS FAR AS MUSCLEMAN KNOWS, NOBODY IN PLANET EARTH HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BENCH PRESS THAT MUCH AT SUCH A SMALL SIZE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS..

Now his feat is "amazing" as no one with the size legs he has could bench that much.

[evildave]

Wow. Think of all the 12 oz. curls any one of us has done in a lifetime.

We got MM beat many times over.

Didn't even have to break a sweat.

[Ipecac]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[muscleman]

Originally posted by gentlehorse


Impressive, if true, MM. The most I could ever bench was 215. I always said I could have benched more if my arms weren't so long. Don't know that that's true, but that was my story and I see no reason to give up on it now.

At any rate, I'm sure that Mr. Randi will be quick to award you the money, assuming that you're able to perform this feat using only (meaning only) the power of your mind.

Do you rip up phone books, blow up hot water bottles until they burst, and break cinder blocks with your head as well?

MY REACH IS 69 INCHES (IN CASE IF U DIDNT KNOW, U MEASURE REACH LIKE IN BOXING BY EXPANDING BOTH HANDS, THEN MEASURING IT FROM ONE LONGEST FINGER, TO ANOTHER.).

YOU DONT THINK ITS TRUE? HMMM... THERES ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT RIGHT?

AT MY HEIGHT, 69 INCHES IS AVERAGE (SOME BOXERS EVEN HAVE 67 1/2 INCH REACH..)

AND YOU DUB, YOU SACK OF SHEEP. I MENTIONED THE SIZE OF MY LEG, BECAUSE I DONT WANT U GUYS TO THINK MY LEG IS SO PUNY, AND ALL THE MUSCLES ARE ON MY ARMS AND CHEST FOR BENCH PRESS.. THEREFORE, THAT SHOULD BE "SUPERNATURAL" IF THAT WORD MEANS "UNEXPLAINED"... I SAY UNEXPLAINED, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON ON PLANET EARTH HAVE DONE WHAT I DID AT MY SMALL SIZE......

[Julia]

Well MM, you would be using your muscles, not your mind. Yeah,
impressive perhaps to a world record book, but what is paranorm-
al about it - even remotely?
Can you answer please?

[evildave]

I dunno. I bet it takes every bit of concentration he has to keep breathing while he picks up heavy things.

[corplinx]

I might actually read the challenge if someone will rewrite with proper grammer, case usage, a spellcheck, and less white space.

[The Fool]

Dammit Muscles, I sat through your entire uppercase thread waithing for the challange, all that wasted time for this??

Your demonstration of supernatural power is going to be a benchpress demonstration? Anyway, I think I may have gained some incite into your uppercase rage. Have you been sampling some Gym Juice?

Anyway, Seeing as it is not "James Randi's million dollar world record benchpress challange" I think you are on the wrong forum...try a weightlifting forum, they may be more impressed.

[pewsagl]

Call me a newbie, which I am, but I'd like to see it. Put up or shut up, I say. No more rants, no more caps, no more insults - he's said he can do something, let's see it. I find it hard to believe that in all the history of the NFL, steriod abuse, Olympic weightlifing, powerlifting, and so on, this has never been done before. But I find it harder to believe that he can do it. If he can't, he's a liar, and once one has made a claim like that, they should do it.

He's given us so much insight into the workings of his mind with his "writings," and we've come this far, so what's the harm in filling in the visual gap? It should be good for a laugh, or a psychology term paper for any students in need.

It should unedited, let's assume he's steriod free just to be nice, and he should have a spotter so he doesn't kill himself when he hits failure. It's not worth $1m, or even $1, but if he will stop ranting and just send in the tape, I'd like to see it.

[muscleman]

Originally posted by pewsagl
Call me a newbie, which I am, but I'd like to see it. Put up or shut up, I say. No more rants, no more caps, no more insults - he's said he can do something, let's see it. I find it hard to believe that in all the history of the NFL, steriod abuse, Olympic weightlifing, powerlifting, and so on, this has never been done before. But I find it harder to believe that he can do it. If he can't, he's a liar, and once one has made a claim like that, they should do it.

He's given us so much insight into the workings of his mind with his "writings," and we've come this far, so what's the harm in filling in the visual gap? It should be good for a laugh, or a psychology term paper for any students in need.

It should unedited, let's assume he's steriod free just to be nice, and he should have a spotter so he doesn't kill himself when he hits failure. It's not worth $1m, or even $1, but if he will stop ranting and just send in the tape, I'd like to see it.

EVEN A NEWBIE REALIZED THAT IT IS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. LIKE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, NO NFL, FOOTBALL PLAYERS, EVEN WRESTLERS CAN DO IT IN THIS WHOLE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF...

SO NEWBIE GUY, YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE? TALK TO JAMES RANDI WILL YOU, EDUCATE THIS FOOLS WHO DOESNT KNOW JACK ABOUT WEIGHT LIFTING..

I THOUGHT YOU GUYS (IF YOUR NORMAL) WILL RIGHT AWAY SAY "THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!"..

BUT NOOOO, AND WHY NOT? I HAVE NO IDEA...

THATS 400 POUNDS...

400 POUNDS...

400 POUNDS!! NOT 240 LBS, NOT 340 LBS...THATS 400 POUNDS!!!!!

THE ONLY LIGHTWEIGHT GUY I KNOW OF WHO CAN DO IT WAS A FORMER UFC FIGHTER. HE WAS 5'6 AND WEIGH 169, AND CAN "MAX" BENCH PRESS 400 ONCE ONLY...

ONLY ONCE... THAT IS HIS MAX...

I CLAIM I CAN DO IT 15 TIMES, NOT ONCE... BUT 15 TIMES.. 10 SETS... IN UNDER 30 MINUTES...

DAMN...

EVERYONE I SAID NEVER BELIEVED ME, BUT U GUYS ACT LIKE THIS IS A NORMAL ROUTINE... WHAT?!!! U GUYS LIVED ON EARTH OR MARS? ON PLANET EARTH, THIS IS WHAT WE LABEL AS "SUPERNATURAL" ACT...

BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS IS WORTH 1 MILLION DOLLARS... NOT WORTH "JUST SEEING AT".. FOR ALL YOU KNOW I COULD BE LYING RIGHT? AM I LYING?

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT, PERSUADE RANDI, AND TELL ME "THIS CANNOT BE POSSIBLE", PEOPLE WHO THINKS OTHERWISE NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES CONCERNING "WEIGHT LIFTING"...

EDIT= YOU ARE RIGHT, I NEVER TAKE STEROIDS, I DID TOOK CREATINE YEARS AGO, BUT IT DOESNT WORK FOR ME. RIGHT NOW I DONT TAKE ANY SUPPLEMENTS.. I NEVER EVEN GOT DRUNK, OR GOT HIGH IN MY LIFE.. LETS PUT OUR FACTS STRAIGHT HERE...

[Samus]

Originally posted by muscleman
I CLAIM I CAN DO IT 15 TIMES, NOT ONCE... BUT 15 TIMES.. 10 SETS... IN UNDER 30 MINUTES...

EVERYONE I SAID NEVER BELIEVED ME, BUT U GUYS ACT LIKE THIS IS A NORMAL ROUTINE... WHAT?!!! U GUYS LIVED ON EARTH OR MARS? ON PLANET EARTH, THIS IS WHAT WE LABEL AS "SUPERNATURAL" ACT...

BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS IS WORTH 1 MILLION DOLLARS... NOT WORTH "JUST SEEING AT".. FOR ALL YOU KNOW I COULD BE LYING RIGHT? AM I LYING? Writing in all capital letters sure helps your credibility here, I must say...

Methinks you don't quite understand James Randi's challenge. I don't think your weightlifting accomplishments apply. For sure, this sounds like something that can make it into the Guinness book of world records, ever try to contact them? Seriously, if what you say is true, it probably qualifies.

If you were claiming that ghosts were doing the lifting for you, and you could prove those ghosts existed, then that would qualify for the million dollar challenge.

I hope you can see the difference between an accomplishment requiring great strength and an accomplishment that was done with the aid of a sixth sense, ghost, magical power, etc.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by muscleman
AND YOU DUB, YOU SACK OF SHEEP. I MENTIONED THE SIZE OF MY LEG, BECAUSE I DONT WANT U GUYS TO THINK MY LEG IS SO PUNY, AND ALL THE MUSCLES ARE ON MY ARMS AND CHEST FOR BENCH PRESS.. THEREFORE, THAT SHOULD BE "SUPERNATURAL" IF THAT WORD MEANS "UNEXPLAINED"... I SAY UNEXPLAINED, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON ON PLANET EARTH HAVE DONE WHAT I DID AT MY SMALL SIZE......

I am smaller than you, and I lifted far more a few years ago. That makes you a little girl.

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by muscleman
EVEN A NEWBIE REALIZED THAT IT IS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. LIKE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, NO NFL, FOOTBALL PLAYERS, EVEN WRESTLERS CAN DO IT IN THIS WHOLE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF...

See, right here's your problem, bucko. "THAT I KNOW OF..." leaves a WHOLE lot of room for you to be wrong.

Frankly, I think I have to agree that you're eligible for the prize. The fact that your brain figured out HOW to lift barbells likely qualifies as supernatural.

[Supercharts]

MM is pillory on speed.

[Beleth]

Originally posted by muscleman
EVERYONE I SAID NEVER BELIEVED ME, BUT U GUYS ACT LIKE THIS IS A NORMAL ROUTINE...No, we act like we have no idea what you are talking about, because we don't.

I personally don't know enough about weighlifting to be impressed with your claim. I bet most of the people on this forum are in the same boat.

It's like if I said to you "I can write 100 lines of bug-free code an hour, every hour, for an entire 40-hour work week." Would you be impressed? If you don't know much about programming, you probably would not be. 100 lines an hour doesn't sound like much.

That's how we are with your weightlifting claim.

THIS IS WHAT WE LABEL AS "SUPERNATURAL" ACT...No, this is what we label an "impressive" act. As far as I can tell, no laws of nature are being broken.

BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS IS WORTH 1 MILLION DOLLARS... NOT WORTH "JUST SEEING AT".. FOR ALL YOU KNOW I COULD BE LYING RIGHT? AM I LYING?

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT, PERSUADE RANDI,That, unfortunately, is not our job; it is yours.

1) Print out the official application form found elsewhere on the JREF Web site.

2) Sign it.

3) Get it notarized.

4) Send it in to JREF.

5) Receive a response from them.

That's the only recognized way to do this. Strutting your stuff on this message board is going to get you nowhere towards winning the million.

One caveat, though: JREF has a history of rejecting claims that are purely about the human body, such as claims of being able to live without eating or the like.


You have your work cut out for you.
I wish you luck.

[pewsagl]

Originally posted by muscleman


EVEN A NEWBIE REALIZED THAT IT IS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. LIKE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, NO NFL, FOOTBALL PLAYERS, EVEN WRESTLERS CAN DO IT IN THIS WHOLE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF...

SO NEWBIE GUY, YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE? TALK TO JAMES RANDI WILL YOU, EDUCATE THIS FOOLS WHO DOESNT KNOW JACK ABOUT WEIGHT LIFTING..


Check what I said. I didn't agree that it's never been done before. I said I find it hard to believe that it's never been done before. You're embarrassing yourself. Oh wait, you've been doing that all along...

[Filippo Lippi]

We're forgetting the post where he proved he couldn't count, so his 60,000 lb claim may be a little inaccurate.

[evildave]

You know, it's been said that a lot of body builder types have homosexual tendencies.

[The Fool]

If I can pee higher up a wall than anyone else in the world, So high that you would think it was a paranormal power, can I win the million too?

[evildave]

I dunno. MM might take you up on that, just to "see". Those who are obsessed about measurements need to compare.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by muscleman
THEREFORE, THAT SHOULD BE "SUPERNATURAL" IF THAT WORD MEANS "UNEXPLAINED"... I SAY UNEXPLAINED, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON ON PLANET EARTH HAVE DONE WHAT I DID AT MY SMALL SIZE......

Ummmm, no. Let me use an example that's worked previously.

Chandra Levy's murder - unexplained.
Chandra Levy being resurrected by Benny Hinn - supernatural.

Supernatural claims can be a subset of the unexplained, but there is much more of the unexplained that is not supernatural.

Echhh, I feel so dirty for replying to this thread... need a shower..:eek:

[Yahzi]

"I can write 100 lines of bug-free code an hour, every hour, for an entire 40-hour work week." Would you be impressed?
I'd frickin' hire you.

I can't believe MM's miraculous claim is relative. What's the point of a miracle if it's only a miracle for small people?

[wraith]

Originally posted by evildave
You know, it's been said that a lot of body builder types have homosexual tendencies.

lol, that doesnt exclude you dave
:cool:

[evildave]

Oh, looky! Wraith is back!

Speaking of hot man-love, could Franko possibly be far behind?

[glee]

http://www.soldiermagazine.co.uk/mag/sport2.htm

'Sgt Neil Thomas (SEME) set a new accumulative military bench press world record by lifting his own body weight 33 times.'

That's the world record, as per the Guiness Book of World Records.

Actually he bench pressed more than 7067 lb in 41 seconds.
So Muscleman did about 9 times as much weight, but took about 40 times longer.

[Doctor X]

I am smaller than you, and I lifted far more a few years ago. That makes you a little girl.


Central Scrutinizer IS GOD!!!!!!

[Sigh . . . !--Ed.]


Or, like, you know, one of them prissy angels or something. . . .

--J.D.

[wraith]

Originally posted by evildave
Oh, looky! Wraith is back!

Speaking of hot man-love, could Franko possibly be far behind?

hot man love?
ahhh, Im right thanks dave, it's not really my thing :cool:

Thanks for the invitation though lol!
Look for the Fool...I have a feeling that youll have better luck with him ;)

[wraith]

Originally posted by Doctor X


Central Scrutinizer IS GOD!!!!!!

[Sigh . . . !--Ed.]


Or, like, you know, one of them prissy angels or something. . . .

--J.D.

Take a hike Bozo :)

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by wraith


Take a hike Bozo :)
I knew Bozo.

Bozo was a friend of mine.

and wraith, Doctor X is no Bozo.







applogies to Willard Scott

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by muscleman


(YELL, YELL, YELL..............)

I SAY UNEXPLAINED, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON ON PLANET EARTH HAVE DONE WHAT I DID AT MY SMALL SIZE......

Ooohhh! I get it!! He's going to do it ON THE MOON!

[Crossbow]

Not so fast muscleman!

I walk up at least three flights of stairs every day for about the last four years,

So that means I have walked 8.3 miles up!

That is much more impressive than moving a measly 60,000 lbs about two feet!

After I collect the money, I will go to Las Vegas and play Blackjack and see some hookers.

On second thought, forget the Blackjack!

:p

[roger]

Well, let's see, at 187 lbs, that puts him in the 198lbs division. The AAU record is 529.1lbs. Thus his accomplishment, if done w/ legal lifts and equipment, is very notable but hardly inhuman. Especially when you consider that mm seems to be specializing in one lift, whereas the record holders are competing in 3 lifts, which limits the maximum output in any individual lift.

lifting records: http://www.aausports.org/exec/aau/sports/powerlifting/records/menassrc.pdf

Of course world records are for single lifts, not sets of ten, so mm has accomplished a lot, if the lifts are legal. But, some lifters are able to lift many reps at just below the max single lifts, although most cannot. Its a matter of genetics, not miracles.

[Samus]

Originally posted by muscleman
I SAY UNEXPLAINED, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON ON PLANET EARTH HAVE DONE WHAT I DID AT MY SMALL SIZE...... Sorry to hear about your small size...

:rolleyes:

[Doctor X]

UNABLE to address the Persnickety Pernisciously Profound Puissance Purloining Pediatric Pontine Putrescent Problem. . . .

IGNORANT of the Solemn Science of Sentience. . . .

Having FLED from the HOUNDS across the pages with his Cowardice trailing behind him like . . . like . . . a long trailing thing. . . .

The Sockpuppet of a Bigotted Coward et Liar et Hypocrit can only gibber and meap thusly:

Take a hike Bozo

Rather anticlimatic that.

--J.D.

[muscleman]

OK OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. THE MAN HOLDING THE WORLD RECORD RIGHT NOW LIFTING MORE THAN HIS BODY WEIGHT, I CAN PUSH "9" TIMES OF MY BODY WEIGHT MORE THAN HE CAN, AND YOU GUYS THINK THATS "NATURAL"???


IF I WAS 5' 7, WEIGHING 120 LBS, CAN I SAY I CAN BENCH PRESS 600 LBS 10 TIMES 5 SETS?

IF YOU SAY "NO", AND WHY NOT?

BECAUSE IT IS NOT NATURAL?

THEN WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE FOR MY CLAIM?

MY CLAIM IS THAT I CAN BENCH PRESS 9 TIMES STRONGER THAN THE CURRENT GUINESS BOOK WORLD OF RECORD, IN FACT, YOU GUYS DONT EVEN KNOW ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT POPULAR..

IF I WAS REALLY STRONG, WOULDNT THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT IT BY NOW?

THINK KIDS THINK.....USE YOUR BRAIN...

I WEIGH 187 LBS, 5' 7, AND I CLAIM TO BENCH PRESS 400 LBS..... 400 LBS!!!! 400 LBS!!! 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES....

???????????????

?????????????

??????????????

[The Fool]

Originally posted by muscleman
OK OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. THE MAN HOLDING THE WORLD RECORD RIGHT NOW LIFTING MORE THAN HIS BODY WEIGHT, I CAN PUSH "9" TIMES OF MY BODY WEIGHT MORE THAN HE CAN, AND YOU GUYS THINK THATS "NATURAL"???


IF I WAS 5' 7, WEIGHING 120 LBS, CAN I SAY I CAN BENCH PRESS 600 LBS 10 TIMES 5 SETS?

IF YOU SAY "NO", AND WHY NOT?

BECAUSE IT IS NOT NATURAL?

THEN WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE FOR MY CLAIM?

MY CLAIM IS THAT I CAN BENCH PRESS 9 TIMES STRONGER THAN THE CURRENT GUINESS BOOK WORLD OF RECORD, IN FACT, YOU GUYS DONT EVEN KNOW ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT POPULAR..

IF I WAS REALLY STRONG, WOULDNT THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT IT BY NOW?

THINK KIDS THINK.....USE YOUR BRAIN...

I WEIGH 187 LBS, 5' 7, AND I CLAIM TO BENCH PRESS 400 LBS..... 400 LBS!!!! 400 LBS!!! 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES....

???????????????

?????????????

??????????????
You are a complete unmitigated nobhead. I don't care how much you claim you can lift. Get off the Jym Juice, it is curdling your brain.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by wraith


lol, that doesnt exclude you dave
:cool:
Sockpuppet, when posting as Franko you said muscles was one sharp incisive dude..... Lol, seen enough madness to alter that opinion? Or will the first law of Trolling prevent you from altering your glowing opinion of this dill?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by dwb
Sorry to hear about your small size...

:rolleyes:

So is his boyfriend. :eek:

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by muscleman
I WEIGH 187 LBS, 5' 7, AND I CLAIM TO BENCH PRESS 400 LBS..... 400 LBS!!!! 400 LBS!!! 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES....


Yawn....

[Doctor X]

Odd, though, that he never considered why his deity would allow him this truly extraordinary feat yet deny relief to the child.

Of course, he would have to attempt critical thinking.

--J.D.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Doctor X
Odd, though, that he never considered why his deity would allow him this truly extraordinary feat yet deny relief to the child.

Of course, he would have to attempt critical thinking.

--J.D. Agnostic as I am, I wonder if God, if he/she wanted to make the final proof, would have chosen to prove him/herself to us through MM pressing iron.

I can see other, more convincing ways, with a war coming on.

'Please, god: Stop the war!'

'No, sorry, I'm busy, I'm supporting MeatBrains pushing pounds!'

Sure.

Of all the evidence he/she could have claimed, like saving people with fatal diseases, or bringing some dead heroes back to life (John Lennon springs to mind), or saving a few million people from starvation in Africa - he lets MB press weights.

Dear God,

If you are there
please use your powers in ways that will benefit suffering people
please help as many as you can
please do not concentrate your efforts on rich americans
but on the real poor people in some african countries
please realize that being short-sighted
is less serious than being without food
and advice your representatives on earth accordingly

And this MuscleBrain guy - he's a joke, isn't he?

Amen

:p

[MRC_Hans]

And this MuscleBrain guy - he's a joke, isn't he?
---Well it makes a sort of sense. God has been accused of being cruel, or incompetent, or non-existent. None of this apparantly bothers Him, but the other day I saw somebody (in a local paper, not here) say God didn't have a sense of humor. Well that did it! (Would have pissed me off mightily too):

He sends us Muscleman :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:

Hans

[MRC_Hans]

Muscleman yelled:
THINK KIDS THINK.....USE YOUR BRAIN...

I WEIGH 187 LBS, 5' 7, AND I CLAIM TO BENCH PRESS 400 LBS..... 400 LBS!!!! 400 LBS!!! 15 TIMES, 10 SETS, IN UNDER 30 MINUTES.... I think the key might be in the word "claim".

Some of the bench-presses I have seen have this spring-loaded system, you turn a handle, it has a scale going from, say 20lbs to 500 (the ones over here are showing kg, of course).

Now, just because this pointer says 400, it doesn't have to mean it's really 400lbs.

So before you go for Guiness Book of Records, or the Randi Prize, you need to do it on one of those benches where real weights are put on. You need to have the weights calibrated, and you need witnesses.

Once you have the feat verified, you could go in the record books (provided it's a record). For the Randi Challenge, you still need to prove that something supernatural happened. That would require that you could document that your power output was greater than your input.

Hans

[Beleth]

Originally posted by muscleman
OK OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. THE MAN HOLDING THE WORLD RECORD RIGHT NOW LIFTING MORE THAN HIS BODY WEIGHT, I CAN PUSH "9" TIMES OF MY BODY WEIGHT MORE THAN HE CAN, AND YOU GUYS THINK THATS "NATURAL"???As I have no reason to think that anything supernatural is involved, I must answer this question in the affirmative. It is up to you to show that there is something supernatural involved.

MY CLAIM IS THAT I CAN BENCH PRESS 9 TIMES STRONGER THAN THE CURRENT GUINESS BOOK WORLD OF RECORD,Then what the heck are you doing here wasting your time with us children when you could be contacting Guinness and getting your name in their book?

IF I WAS REALLY STRONG, WOULDNT THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT IT BY NOW?Why would they? Who would have told them?

If you have hidden your own light under a bushel basket, don't blame the rest of us. If you are really this strong, and you are not in Guinness, then you have only yourself to blame.

[Doctor X]

Bjorn:

Agnostic as I am, I wonder if God, if he/she wanted to make the final proof, would have chosen to prove him/herself to us through MM pressing iron.

It always seems vulgar to me that people expect a divine intervention for their mundane problems. As I joked with a relative, "F**k the Palestinians!! I NEED A PARKING SPACE!!!"

So, Big Daddy, with all of his glory, influences the very Laws of Physics, to allow me to avoid hauling my carcass a few extra feet whilst ignoring the plight of the suffering.

Not a very admirable deity to have faith in. This is perhaps apocryphal--I have not paid much attention to the Elizabeth Smart case--had assumed she was dead, so this is a "win" in anyone's mind. I "thought" I heard a report that her father down-played the "miracle" claim that people bandi-about when faced with natural occurrences because it implied that the children not saved were not worthy or their parents did not pray hard enough.

So is it a lottery? A popularity contest? A sentence fragment?

"Sorry, you did not pray as hard the Flanders, thus, your little Jennifer dies."

Reminds me of the WKRP episode where the Reverend Doctor Johnny Fever thinks he hears god talking to him--the problem is that god tells him to become a pro-golfer.

Here I am, with infinite power, wisdom, goodness, insight, having just smote the last idiot who asked me to pick of a big rock, and the BEST way I have to convince the Faithful [All Rights Reserved--Ed.] is to make a saint appear in pizza sauce.

Why bother with such minimalistic efforts?

Now, with all due respect to the poster in question, I can empathize with the desire to become special--regarded--by the universe. It is a cold-cruel reality--unless you live in Vegas where it is warm, and the fun flows as far as your money, until the stripper who told you she loved you [GET ON WITH IT!!--Ed.]

. . . yes . . . right . . . a cold-cruel reality. It would be nice if "someone" cared enough to help with a bench press, or even a deadly illness.

Some do. They are called people. Some of them are rather more reliable than mythic constructs.

--J.D.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Doctor X
[ It would be nice if "someone" cared enough to help with a bench press, or even a deadly illness.

Some do. They are called people. Some of them are rather more reliable than mythic constructs.

--J.D. Aren't all of them? When it comes to reliability, prayers fail miserably. :(

Even the guy with 'America's Most Wanted' (Welsh?) is quite reluctant to emphasize prayer as what saved the Smart girl, maybe understandably so since he lost his son in a nasty way and prayers did not help.

[muscleman]

I PUT THIS ON EVERYTHING, AND IM NOT LYING. I BELIEVE DOCTOR X REALLY IS A MENTAL INSTITUTE PATIENT, IM NOT LYING, HE HAVE TO. IN FACT, HE MIGHT B TYPING FROM THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.. I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...:(

IN THIS WORLD, THEY CALL THAT SCHIZOPHRENIC, AND THERE IS NO CURE FOR IT, YOU CAN ONLY CALM THEM DOWN WITH PILLS, BUT EVEN THAT DOESNT CURE IT..

IN THE CHURCH, WE CALL IT "DEMON POSSESED", AND EXORCISM CAN CURE IT (DEPENDS WHO THE EXORCIST IS, IF HE IS HOLY OR NOT), BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY IT CAN COME BACK....

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by muscleman
I PUT THIS ON EVERYTHING, AND IM NOT LYING. I BELIEVE DOCTOR X REALLY IS A MENTAL INSTITUTE PATIENT, IM NOT LYING, HE HAVE TO. IN FACT, HE MIGHT B TYPING FROM THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.. I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...:(

IN THIS WORLD, THEY CALL THAT SCHIZOPHRENIC, AND THERE IS NO CURE FOR IT, YOU CAN ONLY CALM THEM DOWN WITH PILLS, BUT EVEN THAT DOESNT CURE IT..

IN THE CHURCH, WE CALL IT "DEMON POSSESED", AND EXORCISM CAN CURE IT (DEPENDS WHO THE EXORCIST IS, IF HE IS HOLY OR NOT), BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY IT CAN COME BACK....

This is ad hominem (singular, masculine, 3rd declension) right?

Poor guy, the Caps Lock still doesn't work.

And, as you can see, this world is different than the Catholic Church. How insightful.

edited for spelling

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by muscleman
I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...:(So, is it just you who doesn't understand sarcasm, or is it a catholic thing in general?
IN THE CHURCH, WE CALL IT "DEMON POSSESED", AND EXORCISM CAN CURE IT (DEPENDS WHO THE EXORCIST IS, IF HE IS HOLY OR NOT), BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY IT CAN COME BACK....So, based on having seen "The Exorcist", the Catholic cure for MPD is to tie the patient down and yell at them until they are all better? I wonder how many clinical studies there has been using this method.

Oops. Sorry, muscleman. I forgot that you have trouble identifying sarcasm.

Everything I've written in this post, except this sentence, is sarcastic.

[pewsagl]

Originally posted by muscleman
I PUT THIS ON EVERYTHING, AND IM NOT LYING. I BELIEVE DOCTOR X REALLY IS A MENTAL INSTITUTE PATIENT, IM NOT LYING, HE HAVE TO. IN FACT, HE MIGHT B TYPING FROM THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.. I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...:(


Whoa. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I'd like to point out a few things. If you believe what you've been saying, then you've exhibited several signs of schizophrenia yourself:

1. Hallucinations. In your story about the mirror in the haunted house, you said that your face turned blood red. If you truly saw this (or believe you did), then that would qualify as a hallucination. For all we know, the whole trip to the haunted house could've been a hallucination. I didn't go back and check, but you may have even given indications of auditory hallicinations as well. Does God ever talk to you?

2. Delusions of grandeur. Your belief that God is working through you, thus enabling you to perform a "supernatural" act, is very similar to conditions common to schizophrenics such as belief that one is God or is possessed by a god, or that one is Jesus Christ, etc. In any event, you haven't claimed to be God (yet), but you have certainly claimed that God is working through you.

3. Disconnected thought patterns. In extreme cases, this is referred to as "word salad." You're not quite there, but your thought patterns show clear signs of being disconnected and rambling, and you often misinterpret what others are saying and end up going on nonsensical rants as a result.

These are three classic symptoms, recognizable by any college level psych student. Furthermore, if you truly are 22 as you stated at one point, your age falls right smack in the sweet spot of when people most commonly fall victim to schizophrenia - the early twenties.

Having said all that, I am in no way claiming to be qualified to make a professional psychological diagnosis, nor would I claim that it would be a good idea to make such a diagnosis on the basis of these threads alone. I just thought it was curious for you, of all people, to accuse somebody else of being mental.

You could be completely sane and fabricating this whole persona for the purpose of getting everybody riled and attracting a lot of attention to yourself - as a game or something, I suppose. But if you believe even half of the crapola you're saying, you may want to seek professional help.

Good luck with all that...

[Simon Bar Sinister]

Originally posted by muscleman
I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...:(



NO!!!! IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN THAT!!! ED. IS SCHIZOPHRENIC!!! SOMETIMES HE'S STAN LEE AND SOMETIMES HE'S WILLIAM GAINES!!!!!

[The Fool]

Originally posted by muscleman
IN THE CHURCH, WE CALL IT "DEMON POSSESED", AND EXORCISM CAN CURE IT (DEPENDS WHO THE EXORCIST IS, IF HE IS HOLY OR NOT), BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY IT CAN COME BACK....
Exactly who "in the church" calls Schizophrenia "devil possesion". Is this meant to imply that this is a teaching of the church? Come on, spill the beans. Exactly WHO in any official capacity in the Catholic church believes Schizophrenia to be devil possesion? If you can Identify them, the Catholic Church wants to know about it because they tend to chuck out people with middle age beliefs...

And while we're at it....you are a complete wimp I can bench nearly double what you claim, one handed, while smoking a cigar. WHERE IS MY MONEY!!!!!!!!

[Doctor X]

The Bigotted Cowared et Liar et Hypocrit, rather than address the questions directed towards him, suffers another stimulating bout of incontinence:

I PUT THIS ON EVERYTHING, AND IM NOT LYING. I BELIEVE DOCTOR X REALLY IS A MENTAL INSTITUTE PATIENT, IM NOT LYING, HE HAVE TO. IN FACT, HE MIGHT B TYPING FROM THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW..

Not now, certainly. . . .

I BELIEVE HE IS A SCHIZOPHRENIC, TAKE A LOOK AT HIS TYPING (STOP THAT- BY ED.) HE GOT 2 MINDS WORKING ON HIM, POOR GUY...

[While we understand that this individual responds negatively to having his ego obliterated, we must take exception to his mischaracterization of our humble efforts to provide balance and necessary voltage--often unnecessary--to our charge.--Ed.]

{And you forgot us!}

How very rude, certainly. However this is the best this fool, this coward, this bigot, this liar, this hypocrit can offer?

He finds the Problem of the Child unanswerable? Does the implications prove "too dark altogether?"

Yes, he can fantasize that he can bench press as much as the weaker members of his gym and feel it represents regard by a deity, but he cannot offer solace to those who actually suffer.

What a pathetic waste of air.

--J.D.

[glee]

Originally posted by muscleman
[B]OK OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. THE MAN HOLDING THE WORLD RECORD RIGHT NOW LIFTING MORE THAN HIS BODY WEIGHT, I CAN PUSH "9" TIMES OF MY BODY WEIGHT MORE THAN HE CAN, AND YOU GUYS THINK THATS "NATURAL"???


No, we think it shows that you can't read.
My quote was:

'Actually he bench pressed more than 7067 lb in 41 seconds.
So Muscleman did about 9 times as much weight, but took about 40 times longer.'

Did you not notice the 40 times longer bit?

How much can you bench press in 41 seconds?

[MRC_Hans]

The worst thing about you, Muscleman, is not that you type in uppercase, nor that you can't build a coherent sentence, nor that you are a deluded, vain, self-satisfied bigot. The worst thing is that you have no sense of humor.

Hans

[Ossai]

muscleman
IN THE CHURCH, WE CALL IT "DEMON POSSESED", AND EXORCISM CAN CURE IT (DEPENDS WHO THE EXORCIST IS, IF HE IS HOLY OR NOT), BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY IT CAN COME BACK. So now you are telling us that you believe in demons and exorcisms.
I noticed earlier that you stated your age but shied away from telling us your educational background. So this time I’m asking directly, what is your educational background? I’m betting home schooled since you seem unable to recognize sarcasm, seem unable to write more than one post in a coherent manner, don’t follow, or even seem to understand, the basic rules of English grammar and your reading comprehension skills seem to be around 6th grade level (late elementary school).

Ossai

[UnrepentantSinner]

BorB, Borb... at long last sir, have you no BorB..