"Bush is a Nazi"

[Ben Shniper]

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

Apparently, Bush is a Nazi.

Search on google with this keyword
"bush is a nazi" here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22bush+is+a+nazi%22

You get 861 links

Search for "Hitler is a nazi" (7) or "Hitler was a nazi" (101) and you'll see what I mean.

I challenge you to find anyone who fits the phrase "x was a nazi" or "y is a nazi" who will get more hits than Bush.

He's not a nazi.

Liberals are just INSANE.

-Ben

Edit: Use Quotation marks in the search to search for an exact phrase. Idea for this came from here:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo.html

Support Bush for President, look at his latest commercial showing the truth of his wild-eyed haters:
http://www.georgewbush.com/

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

Apparently, Bush is a Nazi.

Search on google with this keyword
"bush is a nazi" here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22bush+is+a+nazi%22

You get 861 links

Search for "Hitler is a nazi" (7) or "Hitler was a nazi" (101) and you'll see what I mean.

I challenge you to find anyone who fits the phrase "x was a nazi" or "y is a nazi" who will get more hits than Bush.

He's not a nazi.

Liberals are just INSANE.

-Ben

You have way too much time on your hand to be figuring out selective searches.

[a_unique_person]

They called Bugs Bunny insane, too.

[Ben Shniper]

Originally posted by Grammatron


You have way too much time on your hand to be figuring out selective searches.

You have too much time, too, maybe?

-Ben

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

Apparently, Bush is a Nazi.

Search on google with this keyword
"bush is a nazi" here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22bush+is+a+nazi%22

You get 861 links

Search for "Hitler is a nazi" (7) or "Hitler was a nazi" (101) and you'll see what I mean.

I challenge you to find anyone who fits the phrase "x was a nazi" or "y is a nazi" who will get more hits than Bush.

He's not a nazi.

Liberals are just INSANE.

-Ben

Edit: Use Quotation marks in the search to search for an exact phrase. Idea for this came from here:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo.html

Support Bush for President, look at his latest commercial showing the truth of his wild-eyed haters:
http://www.georgewbush.com/
Or perhaps, Ben, you are confused because the internet has been around for such a short time. Googlefights mean nothing. For example:

"Lincoln was a great president" = 146 hits
"Bush is a great president" = 1130 hits

Even if you divided that number in half (because there were two Bushes), your logic says that Bush is more than three times better than Lincon was.

But try
"Bush is a terrible president"
vs.
"Lincoln was a terrible president"

Must be those damn liberals at work again.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

Apparently, Bush is a Nazi.

Search on google with this keyword
"bush is a nazi" here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22bush+is+a+nazi%22

You get 861 links

Search for "Hitler is a nazi" (7) or "Hitler was a nazi" (101) and you'll see what I mean.

I challenge you to find anyone who fits the phrase "x was a nazi" or "y is a nazi" who will get more hits than Bush.

He's not a nazi.

Liberals are just INSANE.

-Ben

Edit: Use Quotation marks in the search to search for an exact phrase. Idea for this came from here:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo.html

Support Bush for President, look at his latest commercial showing the truth of his wild-eyed haters:
http://www.georgewbush.com/ Hitler is a nazi got 692,000 hits.

Results 1 - 10 of about 187,000 for saddam is a nazi. (0.33 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 30,500 for nader is a nazi. (0.27 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 105,000 for kerry is a nazi. (0.24 seconds)

What was your point again? :)

[Ben Shniper]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Hitler is a nazi got 692,000 hits.

Results 1 - 10 of about 187,000 for saddam is a nazi. (0.33 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 30,500 for nader is a nazi. (0.27 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 105,000 for kerry is a nazi. (0.24 seconds)

What was your point again? :)

At least you tried :)

Use quotes...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22hitler+is+a+nazi%22

That will get the exact phrase, which is what I was talking about.

-Ben

[Kensington Bailey]

According to Google, a search for "liberals are insane" yields about 56,000 links, and "conservatives are insane" yields about 52,000 links.

However, a search of "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition" yields 875 links, mainly because that was a $1.2M US funded study done under Bush, an alleged "Nazi" or Naz-sym.

Yet "Political Liberalism as Motivated Social Cognition" yields only 2 links!

What gives here folks?

[Charlie Monoxide]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


You have too much time, too, maybe?

-Ben
Ha ha ha... He told you Grammatron! Top that!

Charlie (too much sarcasm and so little time) Monoxide

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


You have too much time, too, maybe?

-Ben

Maybe.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


At least you tried :)

Use quotes...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22hitler+is+a+nazi%22

That will get the exact phrase, which is what I was talking about.

-Ben I don't see your point. If someone is saying 'that f**cking nazi a**hole Kerry' - won't you recognize it as someone calling him a nazi?

By the way: Results 1 - 5 of about 15 for Shniper is a nazi. (0.20 seconds) :p

[Ben Shniper]

Originally posted by Tricky

But try
"Bush is a terrible president"
vs.
"Lincoln was a terrible president"

Must be those damn liberals at work again.

Point conceded.

But I can't let Michael Moore have the whole loony debate?

It's crazy to be calling a decent man a "Nazi", just because he is of a different political party. What's truly insane is the rhetoric in this country. We need to tone it down and kick the nutballs like Michael Moore out of the national discussion.

Didn't much care for Cheney saying "F- yourself" either.

-Ben

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


Point conceded.

But I can't let Michael Moore have the whole loony debate?

It's crazy to be calling a decent man a "Nazi", just because he is of a different political party.
Yes it is. By the way, have you ever heard the term "feminazi"? (10,500 hits on Google) Was that coined by another one of those liberals?

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


Point conceded.

But I can't let Michael Moore have the whole loony debate?

It's crazy to be calling a decent man a "Nazi", just because he is of a different political party. What's truly insane is the rhetoric in this country. We need to tone it down and kick the nutballs like Michael Moore out of the national discussion.

Didn't much care for Cheney saying "F- yourself" either.

-Ben

That's your first mistake, Bush is not a decent man. He started a war based on telling the public lies. Not my definition of a decent man.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Tricky

Yes it is. By the way, have you ever heard the term "feminazi"? (10,500 hits on Google) Was that coined by another one of those liberals? Results 1 - 10 of about 18,100 for JK is a nazi. (0.30 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 27,300 for Tricky is a nazi. (0.38 seconds)

I guess we all are? :p

[Bjorn]

Just to be fair:

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,000 for bjorn is a nazi. (0.23 seconds)

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Results 1 - 10 of about 27,300 for Tricky is a nazi. (0.38 seconds)
The quotes, man, use the quotes. Zero hits for "Tricky is a nazi".

[Jocko]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


That's your first mistake, Bush is not a decent man. He started a war based on telling the public lies. Not my definition of a decent man.

Er, we're talking about Bush, not Arafat.

Just so's ya know.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Tricky

The quotes, man, use the quotes. Zero hits for "Tricky is a nazi". True. But it doesn't mean your off the hook:

http://www.moon-palace.de/tricky/option96.html
Tricky slams down an ice coffee. Re-animated, he proclaims, "I'm a Nazi"

So, there! All the beautiful things we can prove by searching a name and 'nazi' behind it ....

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Bjorn
True. But it doesn't mean your off the hook:

http://www.moon-palace.de/tricky/option96.html
Tricky slams down an ice coffee. Re-animated, he proclaims, "I'm a Nazi"
Um... well... that part is true. Damn, I thought I'd destroyed all the copies of that.

[Thumper]

Your search - "thumper is a nazi" - did not match any documents.

Heh heh heh... they haven't found out yet.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Thumper
Your search - "thumper is a nazi" - did not match any documents.

Heh heh heh... they haven't found out yet. Project Thumper: Nazi Germany began launching Hah! Got you!

(1,640 for thumper is a nazi)

http://www.cfr.org/virtualbooks/reference/glossary/glossary_m_r.html

[Grammatron]

Just so you all know, Nazi is a nazi with 39 results.

[varwoche]

n

[UncleSon]

I'm not a Nazi. Go ahead. google me. See???????

AND, I'm almost halfway to an avatar ;-PPPPPPPPPP

[rikzilla]

Results 1 - 10 of about 66,300 for jimmy carter is a nazi.

Wow! Jimmy Carter! Who'd a thunk it?

But wait,...there's more!
Results 1 - 10 of about 19,600 for mother theresa was a nazi.

-z

[gnome]

Godwin would be spinning in his grave!

If he's dead...

Who the heck is Godwin anyway?
:confused:

[Nova Land]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper

It's crazy to be calling a decent man a "Nazi", just because he is of a different political party. What's truly insane is the rhetoric in this country. We need to tone it down...I agree. I personally prefer to draw the line a little farther, even, toward civility. Calling someone a "nutball", or "INSANE," while generally not as bad as calling someone a Nazi, still seems to me to encourage (rather than discourage) overblown and overheated rhetoric.

That, however, is not the main point I want to make. My point is an obvious one, but no one else seems to have made it yet in this thread so here I go.

I did a google search, using quotation marks, on "George Bush is a Nazi." That turned up 115 hits. I don't have time to click them all to see what they actually say, but fortunately Google gives a line or two preview from each so that it is often possible to get the gist without needing to click the link. Examining the first page -- 10 entries -- here's what I found.

The first item is Jonah Goldberg of National Review saying what he thinks "of all these people who e-mail me insistent that George Bush is a Nazi." Items 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7, similarly, appear to be people railing against the supposedly numerous people who claim Bush is a Nazi. Item # 6 is simply someone using the phrase "George Bush is a Nazi" as an example of something they don't care about. Item 9 is song lyrics, item 10 a humor list.

The only one of the 10 items that appears to be an actual example of someone calling George Bush a Nazi is # 8.

It would seem important to consider how many of the "Bush is a Nazi" hits are actual examples of someone attacking Bush by calling him a Nazi and how many are examples of Bush supporters attacking Bush opponents by claiming they call Bush a Nazi. From the first 10 items on the list, it's primarily the latter that is turning up -- six times as many.

It's possible there really are a lot of people calling Bush a Nazi. Just because people claim it, though, doesn't show it -- and the claims (and responses to these claims) should not be mistakenly counted as examples of it happening.

[Cleopatra]

Nova Land you have a point but just out of curiosity I googled to see what the world of Internet thinks about the Islamists that behead people especially americans.

I googled "Islamists are Nazis" and I came up with one result."Radical Islamists are Nazis" gave no result...

I don't dare to google the phrase "Ariel Sharon is a Nazi".

[jj]

Well, let's see.

Thinks his nation should control the world? Yes or no?
Thinks he's superior. Yes or no?
Thinks might makes right? Yes or no?
Insists on nationalist or racist superiority? Yes or no?

I'm not sure, actually, what the answers come out to here.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Nova Land you have a point but just out of curiosity I googled to see what the world of Internet thinks about the Islamists that behead people especially americans.

I googled "Islamists are Nazis" and I came up with one result."Radical Islamists are Nazis" gave no result...

I don't dare to google the phrase "Ariel Sharon is a Nazi". I'm not sure if you are serious, but if you really want to find out 'what the world of Internet' thinks about the Islamists, just drop the quotation marks.

11,000 for Islamists are Nazis
5,540 for Radical Islamists are Nazis
55,500 for Ariel Sharon is a Nazi

And a quick look at those about Sharon makes me think that most of them are talking about how bad it is that someone says that Sharon is a nazi. :)

[Cleopatra]

Why shall I drop the quotation marks since I am looking for this exact quote?

BTW how many links of the 55,500 that describe Sharon as a Nazi you opened and checked?

[UserGoogol]

Mike Godwin worked for the EFF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation) a legal organization dedicated to defending civil liberties on the Internet. Now he does similarly-themed stuff for Public Knowledge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Knowledge) a lobbying group which tries to encourage intellectual property laws which aren't completely insane.

Anyway, the exact phrase "Hitler was a nazi" rarely turns up because it has little semantic value. "Hitler was a nazi" is like "My cat has fur." (10 hits.) It's a fairly obvious statement which has little value in saying. To contrast, calling someone a nazi in that fashion who is not actually a nazi does have meaning. It's an insult.

[LuxFerum]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Nova Land you have a point but just out of curiosity I googled to see what the world of Internet thinks about the Islamists that behead people especially americans.

I googled "Islamists are Nazis" and I came up with one result."Radical Islamists are Nazis" gave no result...

I don't dare to google the phrase "Ariel Sharon is a Nazi".
First, there is only 193,000 resuls for Islamists and 708,000 for Ariel Sharon. Second, islamists and nazi is not a very good generalization.
I think that criminal is better:
561 for "terrorists are criminals"
142 for "Sharon is a criminal"

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Why shall I drop the quotation marks since I am looking for this exact quote?Oh - I was so sure you wanted "to see what the world of Internet thinks about the Islamists that behead people especially americans".

BTW how many links of the 55,500 that describe Sharon as a Nazi you opened and checked? To make it easier for myself, I looked at the 11(?) that used the exact phrase (search with the quotation marks).

2 of them are about a Likud member(!) calling him a nazi.

1 is mocking the phrase: Hitler used tanks, and Israel uses tanks, so Ariel Sharon is a Nazi (as you can hear over and over and over again in what passes for intelligent commentary among European and Arab "intellectuals").

2 are about a LaRouche speech: "Tuesday, the group's table displayed a sign proclaiming `No, we're not anti- Semitic. Yes, Ariel Sharon is a Nazi butcher,' defending their claim that Israel wants to `rape' the Islamic world."

1 is a letter to the editor of 'The Panama News'(?) - he's for real: "Ariel Sharon is a Nazi, a war criminal and a tyrant."

The next one is not for real: "Saddam Hussein is a vicious predator and a pathological bully. So I'm a racist now? Of course I also think that Clinton is a sociopathic murderer, Henry Kissinger is a war criminal and a cockroach, Ariel Sharon is a Nazi--oops, two of those people are Jews, so maybe I am an anti-semite, or wait, I'm Jewish, so I am a self-hating Jew, but that's a Zionist insult, not an anti-imperialist one, I get so confused."

1 is a comment to an article from Jerry Falwell

1 is IMHO a bit 'strange' (Jonas the Prophet), but he writes "Ariel Sharon is a NAZI, a War Criminal and a Tyrant."

1 is the Beth Sholom Synagogue complaining that people call Sharon a nazi.

1 is wondering how people can call him a nazi.

If you allow me to forget the Likud member, it looks like far less than half of the quotes are 'the real thing'.

[Cleopatra]

Bjorn when we want to find an exact quote in a search engine and eliminate in the best possible way the problem that Nova Land and you have spotted , then we must use the quotations marks.

I can accept Lux objections that means that for better results one must try multiple phrases but my reply was in the context of the discussion and we were discussing about the use of the word Nazi.

15 links out of the 55.500 doesn't sound like a good ratio but this is not the important anyway.

According to your numbers:
11,000 for Islamists are Nazis
5,540 for Radical Islamists are Nazis
55,500 for Ariel Sharon is a Nazi

The numbers speak for themselves. From the one hand we have a bunch of terrorists who behead people in front of cameras and on the other hand we have an Israeli P.M.

Once IDF demolishes the house of a suicide terrorist , Sharon is a Nazi. Once a bunch of criminals behead an american hostage in front of the camera they are just radical islamists.They behead Americans, who cares?

The world should be ashamed for those double standards.

[Trollbane]

Originally posted by gnome
Who the heck is Godwin anyway?
:confused:

Godwin is a nazi with 7 hits

[UncleSon]

Nowadays, we (I?) tend to think of Nazis as practioners of genocide in order to achieve racial supremacy. Let's remember that the NSDAP was in power in Germany a full 10 years before the "final solution" was codified. It didn't start with random mass murder, it devolved into the same.

I mention this only to bring a sense of perspective that appears to me to be missing from this discussion.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
The numbers speak for themselves. From the one hand we have a bunch of terrorists who behead people in front of cameras and on the other hand we have an Israeli P.M.I don't think the numbers are saying anything meaningful at all. It includes every single place where Sharon and nazi are mentioned in the same piece (remember, there were only 11 hits when we looked for the exact phrase).

I, for one, find it a lot more natural to find 'nazi' in an article about a jew than in an article about islamists. Don't you?

Once IDF demolishes the house of a suicide terrorist , Sharon is a Nazi. Once a bunch of criminals behead an american hostage in front of the camera they are just radical islamists.They behead Americans, who cares?

The world should be ashamed for those double standards. I cannot see how you interpret this to "they are just radical islamists" or what the 'double standard' is. A search for islamic terrorists gives 669,000 hits, sharon terrorist gives less than half as many .... :)

[Troll]

Originally posted by Tricky

Or perhaps, Ben, you are confused because the internet has been around for such a short time. Googlefights mean nothing. For example:

"Lincoln was a great president" = 146 hits
"Bush is a great president" = 1130 hits

Even if you divided that number in half (because there were two Bushes), your logic says that Bush is more than three times better than Lincon was.

But try
"Bush is a terrible president"
vs.
"Lincoln was a terrible president"

Must be those damn liberals at work again.

I'd almost agree with you. I got 17 hits for "AUP and Tricky are morons" When I did the "I'm feeling lucky thing, I got a thing about slow internet connections. ;)

Don't even try to be funny and search Troll, we all know it's internet connotations. But I had this nick before the net. So trying that as a response would just be weak. I know you have a better brain than that because only 17 sites agree that you and AUP, together, do not. haha

Individually, AUP is a moron got 709 hits and you got 11,700. Yay you.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Troll
Individually, AUP is a moron got 709 hits and you got 11,700. Were the hits all from this forum? :p

[Troll]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Were the hits all from this forum? :p

Like I'm gonna verify and look? haha Hey I saw it so it must be true. haha;)

[LFTKBS]

Originally posted by Ben Shniper


Point conceded.

But I can't let Michael Moore have the whole loony debate?

It's crazy to be calling a decent man a "Nazi", just because he is of a different political party. What's truly insane is the rhetoric in this country. We need to tone it down and kick the nutballs like Michael Moore out of the national discussion.

Didn't much care for Cheney saying "F- yourself" either.

-Ben

Trade you Michael Moore for Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Mike Adams, Michelle Malkin, David Limbaugh, the Washington Times, Jonah Goldberg, Lucianne Goldberg, FreeRepublic.com, Little Green Footballs, rapist Strom Thurmond's corpse, Trent Lott, Rick Santorum, and Rikzilla.

[Troll]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Trade you Michael Moore for Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Mike Adams, Michelle Malkin, David Limbaugh, the Washington Times, Jonah Goldberg, Lucianne Goldberg, FreeRepublic.com, Little Green Footballs, rapist Strom Thurmond's corpse, Trent Lott, Rick Santorum, and Rikzilla.

You already have Al Franken, Phil Donahue, Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, Whoopi Goldberg, Tom Daschel, The NY Times, MoveON.org, George Soros, Howard Stern, Al Gore. AUP. Tricky, Subgenius and yourself. I think you owe us one.

[Kodiak]

In all fairness, I googol-searched "bill clinton is a commie" and got 17,900 links.

Demonizing idiots exist all across the political spectrum.

[LFTKBS]

Originally posted by Troll


You already have Al Franken, Phil Donahue, Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, Whoopi Goldberg, Tom Daschel, The NY Times, MoveON.org, George Soros, Howard Stern, Al Gore. AUP. Tricky, Subgenius and yourself. I think you owe us one.

Yeah, I remember when Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, & Whoopi Goldberg called for the extermination of homosexuals (http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/mathis627) like your hero Sun Myung Moon. (http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/)

Phil Donahue? A totally irrelevant figure.

George Soros? I'll raise you Richard Scaife, who accused President Clinton of murdering one of his oldest friends. The transcript is here. (http://www.livejournal.com/community/democrats/288860.html)

Al Gore? The guy who won the popular vote in 2000? Truly, he hates America, and the over 50% of voters who wanted him in office hate America, too.

Al Franken? Yes, you're right, he's just as bad as thrice-divorced drug addict Rush Limbaugh.

Tom Daschle? Let me bring up Trent Lott again, who would have liked Strom Thurmond to be President so all the black people would know their place. Tom Daschle is worse than him? Please explain.

Howard Stern? Okay, well, if that's the best you can do, we're done here.

[Kodiak]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Yeah, I remember when Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, & Whoopi Goldberg called for the extermination of homosexuals (http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/mathis627) like your hero Sun Myung Moon. (http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/)

Phil Donahue? A totally irrelevant figure.

George Soros? I'll raise you Richard Scaife, who accused President Clinton of murdering one of his oldest friends. The transcript is here. (http://www.livejournal.com/community/democrats/288860.html)

Al Gore? The guy who won the popular vote in 2000? Truly, he hates America, and the over 50% of voters who wanted him in office hate America, too.

Al Franken? Yes, you're right, he's just as bad as thrice-divorced drug addict Rush Limbaugh.

Tom Daschle? Let me bring up Trent Lott again, who would have liked Strom Thurmond to be President so all the black people would know their place. Tom Daschle is worse than him? Please explain.

Howard Stern? Okay, well, if that's the best you can do, we're done here.

Four words....

James Carville



Michael Moore

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Yeah, I remember when Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, & Whoopi Goldberg called for the extermination of homosexuals (http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/mathis627) like your hero Sun Myung Moon. (http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/)

Phil Donahue? A totally irrelevant figure.

George Soros? I'll raise you Richard Scaife, who accused President Clinton of murdering one of his oldest friends. The transcript is here. (http://www.livejournal.com/community/democrats/288860.html)

Al Gore? The guy who won the popular vote in 2000? Truly, he hates America, and the over 50% of voters who wanted him in office hate America, too.

Al Franken? Yes, you're right, he's just as bad as thrice-divorced drug addict Rush Limbaugh.

Tom Daschle? Let me bring up Trent Lott again, who would have liked Strom Thurmond to be President so all the black people would know their place. Tom Daschle is worse than him? Please explain.

Howard Stern? Okay, well, if that's the best you can do, we're done here.

You trying to get into a dictionary under the definition of strawman?

[LFTKBS]

No, I'm just saying that Troll supports the extermination of homosexuals.