Somewhere, over the rainbow

[Bottle or the Gun]

The Portland Arch Diocese that has to pay abuse reparations declared bankruptcy to 'protect the assets...to be fair to all victims while continuing to minister to Oregon’s Catholics'. The statement (http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=83122) that 'the pot of gold is pretty much empty' in the article infuriates me, as I take it he is inferring the reason for the judgment is as much fantasy as the leprechaun fable.

[Zep]

They should ask the Pope and the Vatican bankers for more handouts. They seem to be fairly flush...

[Bottle or the Gun]

Right. Put a few of those countless gold candlesticks on the market and take care of business. It was good to see that another parish is shutting its doors and selling off the property to make amends.

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by Bottle or the Gun
The Portland Arch Diocese that has to pay abuse reparations declared bankruptcy to 'protect the assets...to be fair to all victims while continuing to minister to Oregon’s Catholics'. The statement (http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=83122) that 'the pot of gold is pretty much empty' in the article infuriates me, as I take it he is inferring the reason for the judgment is as much fantasy as the leprechaun fable. You are inferring it. You think the speaker is implying it. But at any rate, it's an unjustified inference. The clearly indicated intention (whether sincere or not) was "to be fair to all victims", which implies an acknowledgment that there are victims - enough of them, in fact, to make the preservation of assets for subsequent distribution an overriding concern.

By the way, what "judgment" are you referring to? The article appears to refer only to settlements, meaning that the facts of the controversy were never determined.

[Bottle or the Gun]

I misspoke then. Thanks. And you are right, it is telling that he said 'victims' and not 'claimants'. And i'm referring to monetary judgments. I felt the 'pot of gold' statement was insensitive. The claims are about justice, not a payoff, and what was said I think showed some of the real attitude the Arch Diocese may be feeling about the scandal.

[Doctor X]

They rather imply, though I think we may infer, though I do not wish to imply that everyone must infer what they imply is actually what they infer, that the victims are seeking a "pot of gold" as if it is found money or a lottery win.

Most despicable that. . . .

I wish I could recall the commentator who ranted about Bishops becoming incontinent over John Kerry and communion who seemed just perfectly fine moving pedaphiles around.

--J.D.

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by Doctor X
They rather imply, though I think we may infer, though I do not wish to imply that everyone must infer what they imply is actually what they infer, that the victims are seeking a "pot of gold" as if it is found money or a lottery win.Real victims don't view it that way. There are undoubtedly some fake claims, though (what percentage is anyone's guess), and of course the plaintiffs' attorneys are inclined to view the whole thing as a potential "pot of gold".

[richardm]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
Real victims don't view it that way. There are undoubtedly some fake claims, though (what percentage is anyone's guess), and of course the plaintiffs' attorneys are inclined to view the whole thing as a potential "pot of gold".

No indeed, but I think Dr. X has inferred that that is what the church has implied. I don't think he was implying it himself. At least, that's my inference.

[Bottle or the Gun]

But do they know we know what we think they know?