Oklahoma parking lot ghost footage

[thaiboxerken]

http://www.anomalies.net/ghosts/video/72802/kfor.ram


I remember this topic being discussed on the forum about 2 years ago when it happened. Does anyone know if it's been thoroughly debunked or not. It's obvious to me that the "ghost" is simply a doll on a fishing line, but the idiots at courttv.com think I'm just denying reality.

[patnray]

Didn't Penn and Teller cover this in the first season of their show? I know I saw this recently. I think it was on their first season DVD set...

[chrisberez]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
http://www.anomalies.net/ghosts/video/72802/kfor.ram


I remember this topic being discussed on the forum about 2 years ago when it happened. Does anyone know if it's been thoroughly debunked or not. It's obvious to me that the "ghost" is simply a doll on a fishing line, but the idiots at courttv.com think I'm just denying reality.

Walk, do not run, to your local video store and pick up season one of Penn and Teller's "Bullsh!t." Disc four has some bonus material including an episode that deals specifically with this footage and how it might have been faked. I haven't watched the episode in a little while, but if I remember correctly, they managed to duplicate the footage using a doll tied to a fishing rod.

Plus it seems to me that someone with some editing skill could digitaly manipulate the footage, removing a few frames here and there. Experts usually say the footage shows no signs of tampering. I'm not sure how they can be sure though.

[Hellbound]

Experts usually say the footage shows no signs of tampering. I'm not sure how they can be sure though.

Just an aside, but there's a clarification to make here.

Saying "the footage shows no evidence of digital tampering" is not the same as saying "the footage was not altered." An examination can turn up positive proof of tampering, but with resources available today tampering will not necessarily be evident. So, while this is suggestive that the footage is untampered, it is circumstancial...by no means conclusive.

However, I concur with others that most likely the footage is original, the prank was done using props. The times stated by the various witnesses are incorrect, and much more time elapsed between the video siting and any actual inspection (this is covered in the P & T segment). While the attempts of the investigators to reproduce the footage using a fishing pole and a doll were undermined because the fishing pole was visible, the result looks remarkably similar to the actual footage. Also note that no one witnessed the ghost personally, it was only seen on the video footage.

[chrisberez]

Originally posted by Huntsman
Also note that no one witnessed the ghost personally, it was only seen on the video footage.

Yeah... funny how that always seems to happen, huh? :D

[thaiboxerken]

Why is it so obvious to some people, yet not others, that this is simply a hoax?

[Rascal]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
Why is it so obvious to some people, yet not others, that this is simply a hoax?

<sarcasm>
Just because the effect can be duplicated with a doll on a fishing line doesn't mean that's how the original tape was done. Therefore, the original is obviously a genuine ghost!
</sarcasm>

Like the time I was trying to inject a bit of reality into a totally woo'ed out acquaintance by mentioning how many magicians do tricks like bending spoons and keys, and readily admitting that they are in fact performing tricks. Of course, her response was along the lines of "Well, that doesn't mean *everyone* who bends spoons is doing a magic trick... some have real powers."

When someone really wants to believe something, there's no convincing them otherwise...

[Checkmite]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
http://www.anomalies.net/ghosts/video/72802/kfor.ram


I remember this topic being discussed on the forum about 2 years ago when it happened. Does anyone know if it's been thoroughly debunked or not. It's obvious to me that the "ghost" is simply a doll on a fishing line, but the idiots at courttv.com think I'm just denying reality.

When we discussed it, it was my guess that it was an action figure of some type. Notice how the ghost's limbs are stuck in the same position as it twirls around on its string.

[plindboe]

My Win. Media Player can't play it. What do I need to see it?

[garys_2k]

Originally posted by plindboe
My Win. Media Player can't play it. What do I need to see it?
It's a "Real Audio" file, so you're supposed to use the crapware Realmedia One thing. Use Real Alternative instead, no ads, no nags, no "enhanced media experience."

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

[Kopji]

WoooOOOOooo
Two years ago THIS VERY NIGHT
The story below was posted on another forum but the original link seems to be lost to time. There is an additional account on
http://www.ghouli.com/investigations/puckett.htm

They say that the fishing-line/doll thing is doody headed and this is probably a real ghost.

"Those who work at Puckett's in southwest Oklahoma City believe the image is that of a woman involved in a fatal accident.

Now, family members of that woman have come forward, convinced the sighting is their lost loved one sending them a message.

Tracy Martin died from her injuries June 30th. But, her family believes she came back 18 days later to let them know she's okay. They say that is exactly how Tracy did things, in grand style.

Tracy Martin's father, brother and husband are convinced the videotaped image is that of the 33-year-old mother of twins.

Tracy's truck was moved from Puckett's wrecker yard July 17 from the area the surveillance camera records. Overnight dispatcher Kathy Henley saw the image live on her monitors.

A family portrait shows Tracy in her favored overalls. Tracy's husband, Brent, now has the awesome task of rearing their twins alone.

Brent has shown the twins the videotape, hoping it will bring them some comfort.

A police investigation into Tracy Martin's car wreck revealed she was not wearing a seat belt. Had she been buckled in, in the investigating officer's opinion, her injuries would not have been fatal."


Me, I always wonder why security videos always look like such crap. If this was someone actually breaking in, wouldn't it be a good idea to be able to identify them? Alas, we are left with such poor quality video that it gets put on TV as a ghost sighting instead. I'd want my money back.

I don't see anyone asking about what was on the other video channels at the time, maybe this is just image crosstalk from an unselected camera.

[Khonshu]

Security videos look like crap because the cameras are usually not the best grade, and are analog recorders (VHS usually). The tapes are set for the longest play, and are reused and reused until they no longer work. After about the 20th time recording over a tape, it gets a bit fuzzy...