The new look George W Bush

[crocodile deathroll]

Two things that Timothy McVeigh and George W Bush have in common is they enjoy the act of killing and they both have a pathological hatred of the UN.
I think he would rather like his new look because he looks so much like a real soldier

[Troll]

Originally posted by Q-Source
So I wonder how the USA public opinion and their President can claim that they are the ultimate example of democracy in the world if they break diplomatic means (the only rational way of deciding) and apply brutal force. :rolleyes:


What a bunch of hypocrites.

Oh yeah. Must apply those diplomatic means no matter what. Be diplomatic at all costs. What's a few thousand lives of your people here or there when you can still try to talk.

Hit me, I ask why. Hit me again, I ask why and what I can do to stop it. Hit me again and I repeat the questions? Is that how you live your life? When do you use "brutal force"?:rolleyes:

[bjornart]

Originally posted by Troll


Oh yeah. Must apply those diplomatic means no matter what. Be diplomatic at all costs. What's a few thousand lives of your people here or there when you can still try to talk.

Hit me, I ask why. Hit me again, I ask why and what I can do to stop it. Hit me again and I repeat the questions? Is that how you live your life? When do you use "brutal force"?:rolleyes:

When has the US been hit by Iraq? Never.
Saddam has hit Iran, supported by the US.
Saddam has hit Kuwait, and got smashed by the US.
Saddam has killed his own people, ignored by the world.

Bush' justification for this war is that Iraq poses a threat to the US and the world. The rest of the world does not see this as true.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by bjornart


When has the US been hit by Iraq? Never.
Saddam has hit Iran, supported by the US.
Saddam has hit Kuwait, and got smashed by the US.
Saddam has killed his own people, ignored by the world.

Bush' justification for this war is that Iraq poses a threat to the US and the world. The rest of the world does not see this as true.

9-11

[Victor Danilchenko]

rikzilla

9-11Give it up, Rik. Even Bush and Blair admitted that they can't link Iraq to 9/11. or Al-Qaeda.

Originally posted by Victor Danilchenko
rikzilla

Give it up, Rik. Even Bush and Blair admitted that they can't link Iraq to 9/11. or Al-Qaeda.

Give it up, Victor. He couldn't care less.

[rikzilla]

Soon there will be evidence from the captured files of Mukhabarrat. You heard it here first. You can eat your words at your leisure in the coming months.

As it is...Fox News is reporting Iraqi troops attempting to surrender in Northern Iraq....our guys are sending them back because they won't be ready for prisoners until a state of war actually is declared to exist. :D

Damn...at least in '91 they waited until there was an actual war before surrendering.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
-zilla

[shanek]

Originally posted by rikzilla


9-11

I'll say yet again: There is not one single shred of evidence that Saddam had anything at all to do with the 9/11 attacks, and is actually the sworn enemy of those who carried out the attacks. You make yourself look more and more ridiculous the more you try and play this card, especially since it's a forged card drawn in crayon.

If you actually had evidence, that would be different. But you show nothing.

[shanek]

Originally posted by rikzilla
Soon there will be evidence from the captured files of Mukhabarrat. You heard it here first. You can eat your words at your leisure in the coming months.

Uh-huh. And very soon Sylvia Browne will take the Randi challenge. Until it surfaces, it can't be used as evidence.

Unless, of course, you have evidence there is evidence. But now we've just pushed the problem back one iteration...

[Badger]

Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
Two things that Timothy McVeigh and George W Bush have in common is they enjoy the act of killing and they both have a pathological hatred of the UN.
I think he would rather like his new look because he looks so much like a real soldier

I'm thinking "Ad Hominim" here.

Do you have anything to back up your claim that GWB enjoys the act of killing? Does it pertain to hunting? Did McVeigh hunt? Is it the killing of people?

Could you please clarify?

[headscratcher4]

Though no fan of Bush or this war, it is important to keep in mind who, actually, has murdered people, and who enjoys it.

For 30 years, Saddam has actively engaged in murder -- of individuals and of the mass variety. Indeed, he -- personally -- has killed people who crossed him, as well as witnessed the deaths of others. If you've ever seen the tape of him purging the Baath party cadre, his calm, his smile, his feigned regret at the exposing of the "traitors" who he trusted, you've seen the face of evil.

This war may or may not be the way to deal with this monster, but never doubt Saddam is a monster of the most horrible kind. Bush may be a lot of things, but he is not a cold-blooded murderer like Saddam. Maybe that is his tradgedy...at best he is a killer by proxy, and the blood on his hands will be "remote" and sanitized (like that of people executed in Texas under Texas law while Bush was Governor). But, to get back to the point, the one who -- LIKE MCVEY -- has blood directly on his hands is Saddam. To not understand the distinction, is to be a fool.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by shanek


I'll say yet again: There is not one single shred of evidence that Saddam had anything at all to do with the 9/11 attacks, and .....blah....blah.....blah.....blah....etc.......
:rolleyes:

Why don't we just wait and see? It won't be long. 'Sides, I posted existing evidence on numerous threads. You never answered my challenge to refute these facts....you just parrot the same old song and dance.

What you mean is that there's no evidence that you will accept. I can imagine that when documented evidence from the files of Mukhabarrat comes out in the media you will call it a forgery. :rolleyes:
-zilla

BTW: Those chemical weapons that we have "not one shred of proof of" are being moved to the front line units right now. (the units that aren't surrendering already that is) :rolleyes: Since there is no hope of you ever actually admitting that you are wrong, talking to you is a waste of time....which has been demonstrated over and over again in the past. UCE hates Americans even more than you do....but at least he has integrity. Geoff doesn't pretend he's right when shown to be wrong. That's the difference that makes all the difference.

[shanek]

Originally posted by rikzilla

:rolleyes:

Why don't we just wait and see?

Because you keep coming in here with this claim that Saddam supported the 9/11 attacks even though you cannot supply even the tiniest piece of evidence that he has actually done so. Why should I wait when you won't?

'Sides, I posted existing evidence on numerous threads.

References?

BTW: Those chemical weapons that we have "not one shred of proof of"

Outright lie. I said we have no proof of the link to the 9/11 attacks, not of chemical weapons.

And, of course, you resort to your typical "You hate America" bullsh!t....

[rikzilla]

Why don't you just do a search Shanek. You may fool some newbies...but the rest of this forum knows exactly how many books I've read, and what references I've made that have stood unchallenged since the moment I made them. Hell, I bumped the original thread so many times it became ridiculous.

Why don't you do a little search. Unless you're blind or just plain stupid you'll see what I've posted. The links to 9/11, Al Qaida and the first WTC bombing are there....and again you are being dishonest again. You of all people should know what and how many times I've posted this stuff.

-zilla