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Kumar
27th July 2004, 09:30 PM
Hello all,
It is good that Dr.Stefano is among us. Since the topics have been mushroomed elsewhere, we can discuss/ask general questions in this topic, specifically. We may ask/discuss specific questions. Thanks in advance for co-operation. I start with the questions:-
Q.1 : What is the role of pH (body & GIT), infections, fatty degeneration, atherosclerosis, fibrosis & autoimmunity in liver complications & damage?? Can we consider anyone or two of these conditions--as the prime/root cause of all the problems in liver complications?
Hope this will help.:)
Best wishes.
Zep
27th July 2004, 09:50 PM
Dr Stefano,
This is "Phase 2" of Kumar's approach to dealing with issues here. When he is eventually stymied into having to answer questions himself on his own chosen subjects, and since he refuses to do so, he then simply starts another thread ON EXACTLY THE SAME TOPIC, meanwhile pretending that the other one does not exist any more. I suggest you don't waste your energy and knowledge replying to Kumar from now...
Kumar
27th July 2004, 10:14 PM
Front biter. Are you meant for stoping the knowledge to being told/ exposed/gained? I started feeling it. :o
Zep
27th July 2004, 10:37 PM
Feel up to answering some questions, Kumar? If so, let's go right now.
Kumar
27th July 2004, 11:14 PM
Zep,
My request: pls avoid this topic/phylosophy. I awnser questions/ignore as per the quality of question. You can also do that. No insitance. Ask specific questions only.
Prester John
28th July 2004, 12:30 AM
Ok, Kumar, When did the Earth start going around the Sun?
Specific enough?
Badly Shaved Monkey
28th July 2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
Ask specific questions only.
OK, then. What leads you to believe that anything other than mundane physiology and well-known medical processes are at work here? In short, why do you think this gastric pH issue matters in the context of the vast range of medical diseases you want to ascribe to it?
Benguin
28th July 2004, 01:17 AM
And don't trot out the same appeals to popularity and subjective observations we've debunked a hundred times before.
Hydrogen Cyanide
28th July 2004, 02:06 AM
The cause of all his problems:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366551/
Kumar
28th July 2004, 03:39 AM
BSM, It has been indicated in few of our systems. Miasms & Ayurvedic constitutions.
PJ, Ben., Zep, irrelavant questions so ignored.
Dr.Stefano, We have few bio-remedies relevant to liver problem. We can try linking for mutual benefits.
Benguin
28th July 2004, 03:45 AM
No Kumar, BSM asked a direct question of you.
What makes you think there are links. The 'medicine' systems you mention are not recognised as efficacious, so you'll have to explain in more detail which aspects you see as working in a beneficial way and why. Why in a mechanistic sense consistent with a scientific understanding the stubbly primate (and the rest of us) can relate to.
Kumar
28th July 2004, 03:58 AM
Due to so many unsolved, not yet known, reasons could not yet found................so many aspects are still to be solved by corelation & understanding of various existing knowledges. Just don't considered youself/your beliefs as absolute, complete or 'GOD TYPE'. We may just be on some initial or wrong steps.
Benguin
28th July 2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
Due to so many unsolved, not yet known, reasons could not yet found................so many aspects are still to be solved by corelation & understanding of various existing knowledges. Just don't considered youself/your beliefs as absolute, complete or 'GOD TYPE'. We may just be on some initial or wrong steps.
Appeal to ignorance.
You must either have a causal or statistical link ... or is this just a hunch?
Deetee
28th July 2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
Hello all,
It is good that Dr.Stefano is among us. Since the topics have been mushroomed elsewhere, we can discuss/ask general questions in this topic, specifically. We may ask/discuss specific questions. Thanks in advance for co-operation. I start with the questions:-
Q.1 : What is the role of pH (body & GIT), infections, fatty degeneration, atherosclerosis, fibrosis & autoimmunity in liver complications & damage?? Can we consider anyone or two of these conditions--as the prime/root cause of all the problems in liver complications?
Hope this will help.:)
Best wishes.
The following CAUSE liver damage: infections, autoimmunity.
The following RESULT from liver damage: Fibrosis, fatty degeneration (in the liver).
pH is essentially irrelevant.
Prester John
28th July 2004, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
PJ, Ben., Zep, irrelavant questions so ignored.
No not irrelevant, you just don't want to answer it.
In case you've forgotten, you believe that anything that enough people have believed for sufficient time, is reality. It was pointed out for thousands of years people believed the Sun went around the Earth. Thus the question:
When did the Earth start going around the Sun?
Its quite obvious why you don't want to answer it
:k:
MRC_Hans
28th July 2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
*snip* Just don't considered youself/your beliefs as absolute, complete or 'GOD TYPE'. *snip* But isn't that what you are doing yourself? You claiming that the effects of homeopathy and TRS are above discussion, you are asking us to discuss as if those were absolute, god type facts.
Hans
The Central Scrutinizer
28th July 2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
Hello all,
It is good that Dr.Stefano is among us. Since the topics have been mushroomed elsewhere, we can discuss/ask general questions in this topic, specifically. We may ask/discuss specific questions. Thanks in advance for co-operation. I start with the questions:-
Q.1 : What is the role of pH (body & GIT), infections, fatty degeneration, atherosclerosis, fibrosis & autoimmunity in liver complications & damage?? Can we consider anyone or two of these conditions--as the prime/root cause of all the problems in liver complications?
Hope this will help.:)
Best wishes.
You have rotten eggs in your pockets. :mad:
Dr.Stefano
28th July 2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Kumar
Hello all,
Q.1 : What is the role of pH (body & GIT), infections, fatty degeneration, atherosclerosis, fibrosis & autoimmunity in liver complications & damage?? Can we consider anyone or two of these conditions--as the prime/root cause of all the problems in liver complications?
Some infections of the liver ( hepatitis ), fatty degeneration and autoimmunity are known causes of liver damage. Atherosclerosis and changes in pH are not related to liver diseases. Liver fibrosis can follows liver damage in most of its diseases.
Kumar
28th July 2004, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Deetee
The following CAUSE liver damage: infections, autoimmunity.
The following RESULT from liver damage: Fibrosis, fatty degeneration (in the liver).
pH is essentially irrelevant.
Originally posted by Dr.Stefano
Some infections of the liver ( hepatitis ), fatty degeneration and autoimmunity are known causes of liver damage. Atherosclerosis and changes in pH are not related to liver diseases. Liver fibrosis can follows liver damage in most of its diseases.
Thanks for specific replies. However, I think inflamation of liver & infections can be effected by GIT pH. Higher stomach acid may lead to more iron absorption ( can't say about other minerals, protiens & fats by bile are also relevant, whose digestion & so absorption can be effected by GIT pH) can be somewhat relevant.
However, TRS have four relevant remedies for the same. I just mention here which are indicated & bit relevant to the same. I shall be thankful if you can give deep thinking & indicate any 'possible relevance'.
Ferrum Phos: ( Iron phosphate); It relives relaxed conditions in body esp. in vessels. It is for ist stage of inflamation & said to bring O2 to the body. Undigested food's belching or non movement of food are related to it. Reddend parts, bleeding etc. are related to this remedy. ( Its dynamic effect can be bit to enhance bio-availability/effects of iron & phosphate.)
Kali. Sulph: ( Potassium sulphate); It is bit special remedy. It is indicated for 'Fatty degeneration', 3rd stage of inflamation, it enables assimilation & excretion of extra O2. It is also indicated for Uremia & fever which starts by evening. It removes anything/fewthings accumulated in cells, stricture formations, scarring etc.(Its dynamic effect can be bit to enhance bio-availability/effects of Potassium & sulphate/sulphur) .
The other remedies being somewhat related to fibrosis(however KS can also be one), bile movement from liver, cholestatis,infections.autoimmunity, I will mention later.
Can you provide some relevance/relations?
Kumar
28th July 2004, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by MRC_Hans
But isn't that what you are doing yourself? You claiming that the effects of homeopathy and TRS are above discussion, you are asking us to discuss as if those were absolute, god type facts.
Hans Why I am disscussing then?? However, I am bit doubtfull about TRS being mostly same. :)
Badly Shaved Monkey
28th July 2004, 01:52 PM
First let's remind you of the specific question you have avoided;
1. OK, then. What leads you to believe that anything other than mundane physiology and well-known medical processes are at work here? In short, why do you think this gastric pH issue matters in the context of the vast range of medical diseases you want to ascribe to it?
and give you another,
Originally posted by Kumar
However, I think inflamation of liver & infections can be effected by GIT pH.
2. Why?
Specific answers please.
Rolfe
28th July 2004, 02:39 PM
Seconded. I want to know Kumar's reasons for believing there might be some truth in these ideas he keeps putting forward.
Ideas like that don't just get dreamed up out of nowhere. They have roots, some sort of reasoning behind the hypothesis.
I vote no dice with Kumar until he explains his reasons for thinking that these things might be true. Just keep asking him.
Come on guys, we can do it.... :D
Rolfe.
LostAngeles
28th July 2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Rolfe
Seconded. I want to know Kumar's reasons for believing there might be some truth in these ideas he keeps putting forward.
Ideas like that don't just get dreamed up out of nowhere. They have roots, some sort of reasoning behind the hypothesis.
I vote no dice with Kumar until he explains his reasons for thinking that these things might be true. Just keep asking him.
Come on guys, we can do it.... :D
Rolfe.
But... Kumar makes my brain hurt. He's taught my neurons to actually feel pain. It looks like he's saying something that might be substantial, he just loads it up with bad phrasing and big-ish words.
Lisa Simpson
28th July 2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
But... Kumar makes my brain hurt. He's taught my neurons to actually feel pain. It looks like he's saying something that might be substantial, he just loads it up with bad phrasing and big-ish words.
Kumar makes my brain hurt too. I need a Kumar-English translator before I could even start to figure out if there is merit to his postings.
Zep
28th July 2004, 05:46 PM
Kumar, don't forget how to work out your answers from this:
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=1870550878
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