View Full Version : Clonaid says it will prove claims next week...
headscratcher4
19th March 2003, 10:09 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20030319/sc_nm/health_cloning_dc
:rolleyes:
fishbob
19th March 2003, 01:14 PM
Now I'm convinced by golly.
PygmyPlaidGiraffe
19th March 2003, 02:10 PM
I wonder if their evidence will be more compelling and better demonstrated than G.W. Bush's and T. Blairs presentations and arguments related to links between Iraq and al Queada. (spelling?)
renata
19th March 2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20030319/sc_nm/health_cloning_dc
:rolleyes:
Dammit, H4!
I searched the forum for Raelians, not Clonaid. Not finding any references. I smugly posted this thread
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15945
You are indeed a new junkie superior to myself. :)
Argo Nimbus
19th March 2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
Clonaid says it will prove claims next week...
:rolleyes:
Of course, it will be harder to get prime time news coverage next week than it was in December, what with Gulf War II and all. :D
--- Argo
Kiri
20th March 2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by fishbob
Now I'm convinced by golly.
(Kiri feels like singing! )
I'm a clone
I know it and I'm fine
I'm one and more are on the way
I'm two, doctor
Three's on the line
He'll take incubation another day
I'm all alone, so are we all
We're all clones
All are one and one are all
All are one and one are all
We destroyed the government
We're destroying time
No more problems on the way
I'm through doctor
We don't need your kind
The other ones
Ugly ones
Stupid boys
Wrong ones
I'm all alone, so are we all
We're all clones
All are one and one are all
All are one and one are all
Six is having problems
Adjusting to his clone status
Have to put him on a shelf
All day long we hear him crying so loud
I just wanna be myself
I just wanna be myself
I just wanna be myself
Be myself
Be myself
I'm all alone, so are we all
We destroyed the government
We're destroying time
No more problems on the way
I'm through doctor
We don't need your kind
The other ones
Ugly ones
Stupid boys
Wrong ones
I'm all alone, so are we all
We're all clones
All are one and one are all
All are one and one are all
I'm all alone, so are we all
We're all clones
All are one and one are all
All are one and one are all
bangdazap
20th March 2003, 11:18 AM
I wonder how the Raelien project of cloning Hitler and putting his double on trial is going?
http://www.intellnet.org/news/2001/08/10/6218-1.html
Kiri
20th March 2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by bangdazap
I wonder how the Raelien project of cloning Hitler and putting his double on trial is going?
http://www.intellnet.org/news/2001/08/10/6218-1.html
Gotta love those guys- the Raelians generate enough subject material for a whole PASSEL of B-grade sci-fi movies!!
richardm
25th March 2003, 01:07 AM
I see that the baby they're going to exhibit has apparently been cloned from a deceased sibling.
How very convenient! It would be so awkward to have two living kids with the same DNA about the place, wouldn't it?
arcticpenguin
25th March 2003, 08:16 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=857&ncid=757&e=10&u=/nm/20030325/od_uk_nm/oukoe_science_clones
Clownaid produces their evidence: a photo of the alleged clone baby.
Really, what more could you ask?
At least this is not getting front page treatment anymore.
Goshawk
25th March 2003, 08:15 PM
It's just a rather poorly composed picture of a baby in an incubator.
http://www.clonaid.com/
Its eyes are bandaged because sometimes newborns have jaundice, and they put them under what are called "bili lights", and the baby's eyes are covered to protect them from the lights. That's what the really bright light is on the right, the "bili light".
http://www.neonatology.org/tour/equipment.html
Phototherapy lights, or "bili lights," are used when babies are jaundiced (yellow). Some degree of jaundice, which is caused by the presence of a molecule called bilirubin in the blood, is common and even normal in newborns. However, in sick infants, jaundice can result from a variety of problems, and when jaundice is extreme it can cause brain damage. During the 1970's, it was discovered that certain wavelengths of light (in the blue part of the spectrum) can cause a chemical reaction that converts bilirubin into a harmless form as blood passes through the skin. It's important to note that bili lights do not deliver any ultraviolet light, so the babies are not in any danger of sunburn or other toxic effects. However, as a safety measure, the babies' eyes are usually shielded with a cloth covering when they are under bili lights. So their "cloned baby" was not born perfectly healthy, if it needs to be under bili lights.
Also, I came across this fascinating tidbit, which I had not been aware of.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/854497.asp?0si=-
Also, the public has barely been told that Clonaid has a history of fraud. In 2001, it managed to scam Mark Hunt, a lawyer and former West Virginia state legislator whose 10-month-old son had died of heart disease. Hunt spent $200,000 on a project backed by Clonaid to bring his baby back. Ultimately, the Food and Drug Administration shut down the program, which clearly could not have cloned anything given that the expert involved was a graduate student with no background in cloning.
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