View Full Version : The mirror vs. George W. Bush (Cocaine at Camp David)
Questioninggeller
7th September 2004, 02:13 AM
BUSH 'TOOK COCAINE AT CAMP DAVID' Sep 6 2004
And wife Laura liked dope, says book
By Emma Pryer
GEORGE W Bush snorted cocaine at Camp David, a new book claims.
His wife Laura also allegedly tried cannabis in her youth.
Author Kitty Kelley says in her biography The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, that the US President first used coke at university in the mid-1960s.
She quotes his former sister-in-law Sharon Bush who claims: "Bush did coke at Camp David when his father was President, and not just once either."
Other acquaintances allege that as a 26-year-old National Guard, Bush "liked to sneak out back for a joint or into the bathroom for a line of cocaine".
Bush has admitted being an alcoholic but, asked during the 1999 election if he did drugs, he said: "I've told the American people that years ago I made some mistakes.
"I've learned from my mistakes and should I be fortunate enough to become president I will bring dignity and honour to the office."
Later an aide clarified his remarks saying Bush hadn't taken illegal drugs in the past 25 years.
Kelley says that the Bush family covered up scandals because of their wealth and influence. She claims George W started drinking at school and continued at Yale university to overcome shyness.
Former student Torbery George says in the book: "Poor Georgie. He couldn't relate to women unless he was loaded."
Another says: "He went out of his way to act crude. It's amazing someone you held in such low esteem later became president."
His supporters have slammed the allegations as outrageous.
The White House said: "This book appears to be filled with the same trash discredited years ago."**
**Funny Kerry said the same thing about "Unfit to command."
Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14609301&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=bush--took-cocaine-at-camp-david--name_page.html
Gary Gordon
7th September 2004, 04:37 AM
Who cares? Willie Nelson smoked a J on the roof of the White House and that made him MORE popular with Americans.
No one cares about these things, when they happened so long ago, and when someone like Bush has been clean and sober for decades.
Pathetic, really.
The Don
7th September 2004, 04:43 AM
Absolutely, it should make no difference whatsoever whether a presidential candidate has lied.
HarryKeogh
7th September 2004, 04:45 AM
if the allegations in this book and in "Unfit for Command" are both true then we are in a terribly sad situation. One candidate was only hit by shrapnel while risking his life in Vietnam (not a bullet, just some lousy shrapnel) and the other did blow while his dad was President.
both equally shameful.
all sarcasm aside...I will be bigger than all those people reading Unfit for Command and just say it's in the past, let's move on and tackle an actual issue.
Gary Gordon
7th September 2004, 04:50 AM
Harry, you make some good points. However, Bush hasn't been running on his soberness during the early years of his life, but Kerry has been running on his Vietnam record.
Dorian Gray
7th September 2004, 05:35 AM
Why do you think Bush hasn't been running on his clean and sober state? Because that would be a huge lie.
Rob Lister
7th September 2004, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Dorian Gray
Why do you think Bush hasn't been running on his clean and sober state? Because that would be a huge lie.
Interesting post. It soooo cuts both ways, eh?
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Rob Lister
Interesting post. It soooo cuts both ways, eh?
Of course not! Our guy may have committed minor peccadilloes in the past, but bringing them up is just another example of the dreadful perfidy of their guy and his rotten smear campaign. That jerk.
corplinx
7th September 2004, 06:48 AM
Its 2000 all over again. Remember "Fortunate Son"?
Gary Gordon
7th September 2004, 07:17 AM
Let me break it down in more simple terms for some of you clowns...
Bush: If he is running on a platform of being sober for 2 decades, and someone can prove that he's been drinking whiskey on the sly the whole time, that's worth bringing up.
Kerry: If Kerry has been running on his Vietnam record and the record turns out to be dubious, that's worth bringing up.
So where is the evidence of Bush's recent coke and vodka binges?
Ladewig
7th September 2004, 07:18 AM
To obtain a FBI security clearance, one must not have used illegal drugs in the past seven years. If seven years is good enough for the FBI, then it is good enough for me. Let's talk about more current matters.
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Ladewig
Let's talk about more current matters.
Yeah! Like the Vietnam War.
Kimpatsu
7th September 2004, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Gary Gordon
Who cares? Willie Nelson smoked a J on the roof of the White House and that made him MORE popular with Americans.
No one cares about these things, when they happened so long ago, and when someone like Bush has been clean and sober for decades.
Bush isn't clean and sober; he's an untreated alcoholic.
Which may account for his dyspraxia.
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Kimpatsu
Bush isn't clean and sober; he's an untreated alcoholic.
Which may account for his dyspraxia.
He's high on life. And Jesus. And tetrodotoxin. Well, probably not tetrodotoxin.
Gary Gordon
7th September 2004, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Kimpatsu
Bush isn't clean and sober....
Proof?
Kimpatsu
7th September 2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by TragicMonkey
He's high on life. And Jesus. And tetrodotoxin. Well, probably not tetrodotoxin.
Well, he's certainly all puffed up...
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Kimpatsu
Well, he's certainly all puffed up...
That's charisma. He's almost bursting with it.
Kimpatsu
7th September 2004, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Gary Gordon
Proof?
By his own admission, Dubya has never been treated for his alcoholism. (And, yes, he does admit to having been an alcoholic.) The thing is, going cold turkey doesn't make you an ex-alcoholic, or even a recovering alcoholic; it makes you an alcoholic in denial. The root causes of his alcoholism have nbever been treated, so the pathology is still there. As I say, it would certainly explain his dyspraxia. Or do you have another explanation for his ability to out-Malaprop Mrs. Malaprop? Like, say, he's just stupid?
Either way, that makes him a very poor choice for president. Not even president of Alcoholics Anonymous. But maybe he can preside over the "My Pet Goat" fan club. He clearly likes that book so much, he's prepared to go on reading it even after terrorists have attacked America...
Kimpatsu
7th September 2004, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by TragicMonkey
That's charisma. He's almost bursting with it.
I thought it was because he was fishy.
He's certainly a river pig...
Silicon
7th September 2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Gary Gordon
Proof?
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/187/1525/640/2.jpg
Kimpatsu
7th September 2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Gary Gordon
Let me break it down in more simple terms for some of you clowns...
Bush: If he is running on a platform of being sober for 2 decades, and someone can prove that he's been drinking whiskey on the sly the whole time, that's worth bringing up.
Kerry: If Kerry has been running on his Vietnam record and the record turns out to be dubious, that's worth bringing up.
So where is the evidence of Bush's recent coke and vodka binges?
You miss the point; the man has never been treated for his addictions. That makes him prone to relapse at any time.
As for Kerry's Vietnam record, as any fule no, the "swiftboat veterans" ranged against him neither served with him nor have any firsthand knowledge of his actions. They are, however, being paid by the Bush campaign. Which makes the Dubya campaign immoral.
Now, why would you support that?
Gary Gordon
7th September 2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Kimpatsu
You miss the point; the man has never been treated for his addictions. That makes him prone to relapse at any time.
:rolleyes: Oh brother...
Yeah, and it seems to be happening, right? If Bush was going to hit the bottle in a time of need, I think September 11th would have done it. Why don't you think before you type.
corplinx
7th September 2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
and the other did blow while his dad was President.
I think you misread the camp david part. The bush family has been going to there for decades. I don't think the book claims Dubya was snorting coke with Dan Quayle back in 89.
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by corplinx
I don't think the book claims Dubya was snorting coke with Dan Quayle back in 89.
That's good. I can forgive the coke, but not the company.
hgc
7th September 2004, 11:57 AM
Mirror ... coke ... that's funny.
HarryKeogh
7th September 2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by corplinx
I think you misread the camp david part. The bush family has been going to there for decades. I don't think the book claims Dubya was snorting coke with Dan Quayle back in 89.
my bad, thanks for the clarification.
Ladewig
7th September 2004, 12:12 PM
Kimpatsu-
By his own admission, Dubya has never been treated for his alcoholism. (And, yes, he does admit to having been an alcoholic.) The thing is, going cold turkey doesn't make you an ex-alcoholic, or even a recovering alcoholic; it makes you an alcoholic in denial. The root causes of his alcoholism have never been treated, so the pathology is still there.
Thank you for your opinion Dr. Kimpatsu. However, just because Bush has never been an inpatient in an alcoholism ward does not mean that he is an alcoholic in denial or that his "alcoholism pathology" is still there. There are a variety of ways to quit drinking (some more successful than others). There is no evidence that he has consumed drugs or alcohol in the past 12 years. There is no evidence that his avoidance of such substances has produced any undesireable or harmful effects. As I said earlier, there are more important (and more current) issues to talk about.
TragicMonkey
7th September 2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Ladewig
As I said earlier, there are more important (and more current) issues to talk about.
Yeah! Like the Vietnam War!
toddjh
11th September 2004, 10:17 AM
His wife Laura also allegedly tried cannabis in her youth.
You're kidding! A young woman in the '60s tried POT?? Well that should certainly disqualify everyone she ever associates with from public office!
She claims George W started drinking at school and continued at Yale university to overcome shyness.
Drinking in college to overcome shyness? What a bastard!
There are plenty of good reasons not to like Bush. Even that article has some good reasons to consider him unfit for the presidency. But throwing in completely dumb statements like these only dilutes the legitimate ones and gives people an excuse to dismiss the whole thing. Shoddy writing.
Jeremy
spejic
12th September 2004, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
One candidate was only hit by shrapnel while risking his life in Vietnam (not a bullet, just some lousy shrapnel) ...
I don't know the extent of Kerry's wounds, but it is very inaccurate to imply that shrapnel is somehow wimpy or less deadly than bullets. For example, more than half of all wounds and deaths in World Wars I and II were caused by shrapnel.
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