I Just Have One Quick Thing To Say About The War

[Jedi Knight]

Watch the news tonight. Watch it closely.

No terror state is safe from the will of a free people. You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. You assist terrorist organizations even by giving them a stick of bubble gum, we are going to send in 2000 lb. GPS-guided bombs through your windows while our troops with M-4's are putting bullets through everything else.

Don't f-ck with the United States unless you want to reap the whirlwind. The only thing the US stands for is freedom. If you have a problem with freedom, then get ready because the gates of hell are going to open up because no one kicks ass like a free people.

JK

[DrMatt]

The whole mess reminds me of why I'm sometimes ashamed of my species.

[glee]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Watch the news tonight. Watch it closely.

No terror state is safe from the will of a free people. You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. JK

If you had watched the news, you would know there is no connection between Iraq and Sep 11.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by glee


If you had watched the news, you would know there is no connection between Iraq and Sep 11.

No amount of leftist whining is going to stop the US Army and US Marines from destroying the terror state of Iraq. It is still happening.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by DrMatt
The whole mess reminds me of why I'm sometimes ashamed of my species.

It just goes to show how leftism poisoned the world and now moral men have to stand up and administer the antidote.

JK

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


It just goes to show how leftism poisoned the world and now moral men have to stand up and administer the antidote.

JK

That's three things. I thought you only had one. :cool:

[glee]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
No terror state is safe from the will of a free people. You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. JK


Originally posted by glee
If you had watched the news, you would know there is no connection between Iraq and Sep 11.


Originally posted by Jedi Knight
No amount of leftist whining is going to stop the US Army and US Marines from destroying the terror state of Iraq. It is still happening.
JK

So knowing that Iraq had no connection with Sep 11 makes me a leftist?
Is this another example of your astounding ignorance?
Do you need reminding about your ludicrous definition of gravity?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by glee






So knowing that Iraq had no connection with Sep 11 makes me a leftist?
Is this another example of your astounding ignorance?
Do you need reminding about your ludicrous definition of gravity?

Oh, so now you are denying you are a commie?

JK

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. You assist terrorist organizations even by giving them a stick of bubble gum, we are going to send in 2000 lb. GPS-guided bombs through your windows while our troops with M-4's are putting bullets through everything else.When did Saddam fly airplanes into our skyscrapers?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Upchurch
When did Saddam fly airplanes into our skyscrapers?

He didn't have any ships to sail across to invade?

JK

[My Final Spider]

Oh, so now you are denying you are a commie?

Man, I feel the love in here.

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but Jedi Knight, what exactly makes you so sure that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 at all, considering none of the hijackers were from that country? Besides, of course, the edicts of our brave and fearless leader?

[My Final Spider]

He didn't have any ships to sail across to invade?

I belive that's more of a why then a when.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by My Final Spider


Man, I feel the love in here.

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but Jedi Knight, what exactly makes you so sure that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 at all, considering none of the hijackers were from that country? Besides, of course, the edicts of our brave and fearless leader?

During the first Persian Gulf War, Iraq's intelligence service seized the Kuwaiti passport office and took hundreds of thousands of records of individuals who traveled there via tourist information, etc.

Then Iraq supplied Al Qaida with that information so individuals could use the stolen identities of individuals from friendly arab states that had easy access via visas to the United States.

Iraqi intelligence agents also met with the Al Qaida terrorist cells that eventually made their way to the United States from Europe before 9/11.

JK

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

He didn't have any ships to sail across to invade?
"When?" not "Why?"

Your statement, "You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you" implies that, because we "coming to get" Saddam that he must have flown "airplanes into our skyscrappers". When did he do that?

I'm not arguing that Saddam has done some horrible things, but I don't think the implication that we're doing this because of what he did on 9/11 (what was he doing on 9/11?) is correct.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by glee






So knowing that Iraq had no connection with Sep 11 makes me a leftist?
Is this another example of your astounding ignorance?
Do you need reminding about your ludicrous definition of gravity?

"Knowing" is a pretty strong term. You care to modify that?

I am no expert, but yet have dug up some pretty good nuggets showing a Iraq/Al Qaida connection.

Don't you think it's a bit too much of a coincidence that Ramzi Yusef (1993 WTC bomber and ex-Iraqi Mukhabarat operative) is also the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Muhammed (#3 man and director of operations for Al Qaida)???

There are other nuggets of info about Iraq/Al Qaida connections... but this is my favorite. It's not much, but it is interesting...no?

-z

[My Final Spider]

Bu...but wait.

http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/Stories/0,1413,106~4992~1257217,00.html

"Osama bin Laden probably hates Hussein as much as he hates us because he sees Hussein as a secular leader and not a religious leader," he [Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt] said.

And:

http://english.pravda.ru/world/2003/03/17/44475.html

Saddam Hussein has nothing to do with terrorism. As a matter of fact, Osama bin Laden hates him and considers him a “socialist and an infidel”. However, George Bush has to present a case and he can’t go public saying that the US economy is on the brink of a collapse.

Of course, the second one's from Pravda, and for all we know they could be commies, but worth thinking about.

[Crossbow]

Unlike JK, the USA is very selective of its enemies, which is most fortitious for Saudia Arabia.

[Underemployed]

Sundog: That's three things. I thought you only had one. :cool:

NOBODY expects the American Invasion! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to people with lots of money.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

[Smalso]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Watch the news tonight. Watch it closely.

No terror state is safe from the will of a free people. You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. You assist terrorist organizations even by giving them a stick of bubble gum, we are going to send in 2000 lb. GPS-guided bombs through your windows while our troops with M-4's are putting bullets through everything else.

Don't f-ck with the United States unless you want to reap the whirlwind. The only thing the US stands for is freedom. If you have a problem with freedom, then get ready because the gates of hell are going to open up because no one kicks ass like a free people.

JK

Makes me proud to be a Mericun. Especially that last sentence.

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You fly airplanes into our skyscrapers then we are coming to get you. You assist terrorist organizations even by giving them a stick of bubble gum, we are going to send in 2000 lb. GPS-guided bombs through your windows while our troops with M-4's are putting bullets through everything else.

Don't f-ck with the United States unless you want to reap the whirlwind. The only thing the US stands for is freedom. If you have a problem with freedom, then get ready because the gates of hell are going to open up because no one kicks ass like a free people.
----


LOL, who are you talking to?

Oh I forgot, all the Al Qiada or Iraqi's soldiers that happen to be logged into the JREF bulletin board.

[Questioninggeller]

Weren't the majority of those people Saudi(who crashed the planes in to buildings)? Why doesn't the US go after that country? It is even more repressive than Saddam (in the sense of public lives of women, political respresentation, and out right intolerance for others views).

[fishbob]

I Just Have One Quick Thing To Say About The War
No you don't. :D

The problem is that we are a bit less free than we were 2 years ago, we are in greater debt, and we have more enemies. So lets whup up on Saddam, watch what we say and do in private, get out our wallets, and get ready for the next wave of terrorists.

[glee]

Originally posted by rikzilla
"Knowing" is a pretty strong term. You care to modify that?


As I'm talking to a poster who knows the meaning of 'Iraq', 'Al Qaida', 'Communist' and 'gravity', I will indeed modify it to my original " If you had watched the news, you would know there is no connection between Iraq and Sep 11."

I do find JK's ignorance tiresome, so you must excuse the occasional slip!

Originally posted by rikzilla
I am no expert, but yet have dug up some pretty good nuggets showing a Iraq/Al Qaida connection.

Don't you think it's a bit too much of a coincidence that Ramzi Yusef (1993 WTC bomber and ex-Iraqi Mukhabarat operative) is also the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Muhammed (#3 man and director of operations for Al Qaida)???

There are other nuggets of info about Iraq/Al Qaida connections... but this is my favorite. It's not much, but it is interesting...no?


It is interesting, but if that is your best connection...

Instead:

If there was a link, why hasn't Bush mentioned it as a justification for the invasion?
Iraq is not a religious theocracy (one of the reasons for the Iran-Iraq war), yet Al Qaida claimed justification for their murderous acts because of US bases in Saudi, the 'Holy Land'.

Of course I was responding to a claim by JK, and so he should back it up.
He thinks that decade-old Kuwaiti travel information is relevant, but gives no cite why.
And if you disagree with him, you are a 'leftist'.
Sad really.

[Zep]

I note, unless the US military now allows such people in and I doubt they ever will, that JK is currently not hitching a ride with the Marines through Kuwait or Iraq, or on board a US naval ship or airplane partaking of this little Middle-eastern fracas.

Gee, why's that?

I would imagine it's because his vaunted US military in its infinite wisdom wouldn't allow him in particular near the trigger of ANYTHING! Pretty sensible, really, and ... what's this??? Could it also be considered a form of gun-control?! Say not so, JK! ;)

Now stand by for JK's return rant about "left-wing commies" who "don't support their country". Then read this posting again...

Zep

I remind everyone that OBL was trying to raise an Al-Qaeda force to get rid of Saddam even before the US had acknowledged him as an enemy. The view that there is an Iraq/Al-Qaeda connection is totally rejected by everybody outside of the US. It is UTTER NONSENSE. OBL is watching his two greatest enemies fight each other. That the US public has been duped into believing that attacking Iraq somehow is warranted as revenge for OBLs attack on the WTC just demonstrates the astonishing level of ignorance and brainwashing that exists in America today. I'm sorry Rik, but I cannot accept your 'evidence' of a connection between Saddams regime and Al-Qaeda. It just does not make any sense at all, apart from as one of the merry-go-round of different excuses the US has given for starting an illegal war.

:(

[Rusty_the_boy_robot]

Originally posted by UndercoverElephant
I remind everyone that OBL was trying to raise an Al-Qaeda force to get rid of Saddam even before the US had acknowledged him as an enemy. The view that there is an Iraq/Al-Qaeda connection is totally rejected by everybody outside of the US. It is UTTER NONSENSE. OBL is watching his two greatest enemies fight each other. That the US public has been duped into believing that attacking Iraq somehow is warranted as revenge for OBLs attack on the WTC just demonstrates the astonishing level of ignorance and brainwashing that exists in America today. I'm sorry Rik, but I cannot accept your 'evidence' of a connection between Saddams regime and Al-Qaeda. It just does not make any sense at all, apart from as one of the merry-go-round of different excuses the US has given for starting an illegal war.

:(


Wow well your obviously a fool. Anyone can see that Saddam is a high level Al-Qaeda operative. Here's the links to prove it buddy:

Rumsfeld said, "We do have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad."

!!!!

And straight from the white house, "Al Qaeda and Iraq are too close for comfort."

Connie Rice said, "We know that several of the detainees, in particular some high-ranking detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al Qaeda in chemical-weapons development."

LINK: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020927-60557328.htm

AND THATS JUST ONE LINK.

Some of you nutty liberterians just don't get it! Iraq and Al Qaeda are just too close for comfort!! BUT WHO"S COMFORT?!!

I know that I'm fairly paranoid about people touching me. I don't like it, touching is for fags and commies. No doubt bush is the same way. I bet Al Qaeda and Iraq are that close. I wonder if those commie closet-homosexuals have pictures!!!!

FROM THIS LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77618,00.html

Tony Blair, the prime president of Great England, (THE PRESIDENT), said, "there are unquestionably links between Al Qaeda and Iraq."

Presidents don't lie. God would smote them mightily if they did.

So if all you liberal hipocrites would just GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY AND MY FORUM.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by UndercoverElephant
That the US public has been duped into believing that attacking Iraq somehow is warranted as revenge for OBLs attack on the WTC just demonstrates the astonishing level of ignorance and brainwashing that exists in America today.

It is understandable. They need to plant in their heads a moral reason to justify a War against Iraq and against any other country.

The USA people who buy Bush's BS that this War is in order to establish Democracy in Iraq and end terrorism are utterly naive.
All of the hijackers in the attack to NYC were from Saudi Arabia. :rolleyes:

The reason behind this war is just to gain control of Oil sources and to get political control in the Middle East.

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by Rusty_the_boy_robot

Presidents don't lie. God would smote them mightily if they did.

So if all you liberal hipocrites would just GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY AND MY FORUM.

GOD BLESS AMERICA


A classical brainwashed "American" :rolleyes:

We want to read hard evidence, not unsupported statements.

[Rusty_the_boy_robot]

Originally posted by Q-Source


It is understandable. They need to plant in their heads a moral reason to justify a War against Iraq and against any other country.

The USA people who buy Bush's BS that this War is in order to establish Democracy in Iraq and end terrorism are utterly naive.
All of the hijackers in the attack to NYC were from Saudi Arabia. :rolleyes:

The reason behind this war is just to gain control of Oil sources and to get political control in the Middle East.

Can't you read?


During the first Persian Gulf War, Iraq's intelligence service seized the Kuwaiti passport office and took hundreds of thousands of records of individuals who traveled there via tourist information, etc.

Then Iraq supplied Al Qaida with that information so individuals could use the stolen identities of individuals from friendly arab states that had easy access via visas to the United States.

[Rusty_the_boy_robot]

Originally posted by Q-Source



A classical brainwashed "American" :rolleyes:

We want to read hard evidence, not unsupported statements.


Follow the links! Classic brainwashed communist libertarian pacifist atheist!

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by Rusty_the_boy_robot


Can't you read?




Ha, ha, a Jedi Knight's quote provided as evidence..... :cool:

You need to do better than that

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by Rusty_the_boy_robot



Follow the links! Classic brainwashed communist libertarian pacifist atheist!

You are a sock puppet :eek:

[Rusty_the_boy_robot]

My apologies, I just couldn't help myself. After reading a bunch of Jedi Knights posts I assumed that he HAD to be joking. No one could be that deluded. I was joking, and I bet this JK fellow is too. He sounds like Don "Moe" Syzlack.

Have you ever seriously tried to find any shred of evidence linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda. There is nothing, just a bunch of rhetoric and spurious quotes. I suppose the PR people and speech writers really succeeded though.

Unfortunately a bunch of my idiotic ranting and non-sensical argument actually came from another forum. Fifty-percent of the population really is below average.

Originally posted by Rusty_the_boy_robot



Wow well your obviously a fool. Anyone can see that Saddam is a high level Al-Qaeda operative. Here's the links to prove it buddy:

Rumsfeld said, "We do have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad."

!!!!

And straight from the white house, "Al Qaeda and Iraq are too close for comfort."

Connie Rice said, "We know that several of the detainees, in particular some high-ranking detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al Qaeda in chemical-weapons development."

LINK: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020927-60557328.htm

AND THATS JUST ONE LINK.

Some of you nutty liberterians just don't get it! Iraq and Al Qaeda are just too close for comfort!! BUT WHO"S COMFORT?!!

I know that I'm fairly paranoid about people touching me. I don't like it, touching is for fags and commies. No doubt bush is the same way. I bet Al Qaeda and Iraq are that close. I wonder if those commie closet-homosexuals have pictures!!!!

FROM THIS LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77618,00.html

Tony Blair, the prime president of Great England, (THE PRESIDENT), said, "there are unquestionably links between Al Qaeda and Iraq."

Presidents don't lie. God would smote them mightily if they did.

So if all you liberal hipocrites would just GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY AND MY FORUM.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

So Americans do understand sarcastic humour after all! :D

Originally posted by Rusty_the_boy_robot
[B]My apologies, I just couldn't help myself. After reading a bunch of Jedi Knights posts I assumed that he HAD to be joking. No one could be that deluded. I was joking, and I bet this JK fellow is too. He sounds like Don "Moe" Syzlack.


You really are new around here aren't you....

I'm afraid JK is for real.