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CBL4
29th September 2004, 04:59 PM
Ford Motor Co., the world's second biggest carmaker, has had a television commercial for its Land Rover brand banned by the U.K. communications regulator after it was judged to ``normalize'' the use of guns.
The advertisement, which featured a woman brandishing a gun later revealed to be a starting pistol, breached the Advertising Standards Code and must not be shown againWere starting pistols banned in olympic ads too?
CBL
The Fool
29th September 2004, 05:03 PM
"which featured a woman brandishing a gun later revealed to be a starting pistol"
just like in the olympic adds eh?
Tony
29th September 2004, 05:07 PM
So much for free speech in the UK.
The Central Scrutinizer
29th September 2004, 05:39 PM
Starting pistols don't kill people, ads kill people.
merphie
29th September 2004, 06:38 PM
Why isn't anyone considering the runners? It probably hurts their ears and scares them. We should ban them to reduce health cost.
The Fool
29th September 2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Tony
So much for free speech in the UK.
so much for free speech in America
so much fo free speech in Australia
so much for free speech in any other country that has advertising standards regulations..
cry me a river tony.....
The Don
30th September 2004, 03:08 AM
Have you seen the ad ?
The basic premise is that a man is leaving a house in his Landrover early in the morning. A woman reaches into her drawer and pulls out what looks like a revolver, goes downstairs as if to confront the man. While this is happening, the man gets into the car. The woman points the "revolver" at him while he is in the car and fires [plot twist] of course it's only a starting pistol [/plot twist].
We were supposed to think that he was imperiled but of course she was only seeing him off to work.
The problems I guess are manyfold. According to British law Any firearm, air gun, starting pistol or similar weapon must (in the UK) be under the control of an pre-vetted armourer. so perhaps there's a breach there. Implying that it was a privately held handgun is also seemingly encouraging law breaking, never mind the noise abatement issues (would you like to live next door to someone who sees their partner off to work with a cheery pre-dawn firearms discharge).
Pretending the gun was real was probably what got the ad banned. Attempting to persuade people to buy some of the worst built and most unrealiable cars ever is what should have got the ad banned IMO
Lothian
30th September 2004, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Tony
So much for free speech in the UK. So you have this advert in which late at night a ababian looking man camouflaged in black cuts through a wire fence to break into a reservoir overlooking a busy city. He glances around to check no one is looking and pulls out of his bag a canister containing powder and pours it into the city’s drinking water supply.
Later he is seen relaxing floating in the reservoir in a beautiful setting overlooking the city with a glass of champagne in his hand. The screen cuts to the text “Radox Crystals- take yourself somewhere else”
Irresponsible ? Free speech ?
The Don
30th September 2004, 03:35 AM
Tough on relaxation, tough on the causes of relaxation. Perhaps New Labour should get the ad banned
Lothian
30th September 2004, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by The Don
Tough on relaxation, tough on the causes of relaxation. Perhaps New Labour should get the ad banned :D
corplinx
30th September 2004, 04:18 AM
The simspsons episode where Homer buys a gun is banned in the UK also.
Zep
30th September 2004, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by corplinx
The simspsons episode where Homer buys a gun is banned in the UK also. Evidence, please.
Ian Osborne
30th September 2004, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by corplinx
The simspsons episode where Homer buys a gun is banned in the UK also.
You mean the one where he's thrown out of the local gun club for using a firearm to change TV channels and open beer cans? If so, I've seen it on UK television not so long ago...
Lothian
30th September 2004, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Ian Osborne
You mean the one where he's thrown out of the local gun club for using a firearm to change TV channels and open beer cans? If so, I've seen it on UK television not so long ago... Or was it the one where he was given a gun for opening a bank account. I saw that, it was hilarious (even if it was totally far fetched)
Mr Manifesto
30th September 2004, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by Lothian
Or was it the one where he was given a gun for opening a bank account. I saw that, it was hilarious (even if it was totally far fetched)
:roll: :roll:
That reminds me... Did you know that Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" has no less than 94 LIES!?! And here they all are:
1) The Columbine killers could NOT have been bowling on the day of the massacre because they were banned from bowling by a counter staffperson the year before for putting chewing gum on a video game machine (continued on page 94)
Mr "too much ain't enough Michael Moore" Manifesto
HarryKeogh
30th September 2004, 07:16 AM
Let's ban starting guns?
how about
Let's start banning guns?
(I should write bumper stickers)
Tony
30th September 2004, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Lothian
So you have this advert in which late at night a ababian looking man camouflaged in black cuts through a wire fence to break into a reservoir overlooking a busy city. He glances around to check no one is looking and pulls out of his bag a canister containing powder and pours it into the city’s drinking water supply.
Later he is seen relaxing floating in the reservoir in a beautiful setting overlooking the city with a glass of champagne in his hand. The screen cuts to the text “Radox Crystals- take yourself somewhere else”
Irresponsible ? Free speech ?
LOL More like humor.
Really, if such a commercial was on tv, I'd probably laugh. But I doubt an advertiser would seriously be trying to capitalize on the terrorist market. Whatever the case, it shouldn't be illegal.
Ian Osborne
30th September 2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Tony
Whatever the case, it shouldn't be illegal.
Being in breach of the Advertising Standards Code is not a criminal offense.
Tony
30th September 2004, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by The Fool
so much for free speech in America
Evidence?
Whatever it is, most likely I'm against it.
so much fo free speech in Australia
That's practically a truism.
so much for free speech in any other country that has advertising standards regulations..
This isn't an "advertising regulation" per se. It's more like the xenophobic censorship you see in middle eastern countries of stuff that offends the "traditional culture". This ad offends the "culture" of gunophobia in the UK by "normalizing the use of guns".
KelvinG
30th September 2004, 09:09 AM
Of course, if in the ad the woman had pulled out her breast instead of a gun, US networks would be fined $550,000 for it.
Guns=natural and normal
Breasts=scary and obscene
Ladewig
30th September 2004, 09:15 AM
WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN !!!!
Tony
30th September 2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by KelvinG
Of course, if in the ad the woman had pulled out her breast instead of a gun, US networks would be fined $550,000 for it.
Guns=natural and normal
Breasts=scary and obscene
That's dumb too.
merphie
30th September 2004, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
Let's ban starting guns?
how about
Let's start banning guns?
(I should write bumper stickers)
There's an original thought
Jon_in_london
30th September 2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Ladewig
WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN !!!!
OK: Arggghh!! shut up you screaming brats!!!!
The Fool
30th September 2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Tony
This isn't an "advertising regulation" per se. It's more like the xenophobic censorship you see in middle eastern countries of stuff that offends the "traditional culture". This ad offends the "culture" of gunophobia in the UK by "normalizing the use of guns".
Its Advertising regulations Tony.....It happens everywhere that I know of where things are advertised on television. Sorry if it makes you cry.
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