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DrBenway
21st March 2003, 01:13 AM
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/16/nbuns16.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/03/16/ixhome.html

I'm a secularist. But I have no problem with hot cross buns being served to school children, so long as they are tasty. Am I being inconsistent?

bjornart
21st March 2003, 01:19 AM
They are food with an X on them. Unless you also preach to the children to tell them the importance of the day and the symbolism in eating xed buns I don't see a problem. Heck, I eat christian holiday related food every year.

DrBenway
21st March 2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by bjornart
Heck, I eat christian holiday related food every year.

I confess I've never actually eaten a hot cross bun. Are they anything like a Krispy Kreme donut? Cuz I'd eat a Krispy Kreme cross, star of David, or crescent moon, any day. Yum!

bjornart
21st March 2003, 02:06 AM
I haven't eaten one either, they're an English thing. But we used to have 'Lussekatter' in school on december 13th. They're oddly shaped buns, supposed to be coloured yellow with saffron (we used cheaper substitutes) and part of the Swedish saint Lucia celebration. I don't know why've imported that, or even why the Swedes celebrate it, it's not like we're catholics.

Libertarian
21st March 2003, 04:32 AM
Does this mean an end to serving kosher pickles as well?

Fruitcake?

Jewish rye?

Ganja?

Reginald
21st March 2003, 04:42 AM
And in typical Loony style they are banning the buns for fear of offending the Muslim minority.

When will these people realise that by doing stupid things like this they are actually creating an environment of distrust and resentment.

People wont say "The Council stopped the buns" they will say "The Muslims stopped the buns".

From the article its obvious that the Muslims who commented felt this to be as silly and damaging as I do!

They have more sense than that stupid council!

Mike B.
21st March 2003, 04:57 AM
Reminds me a little of the DC sniper news coverage...
After he was caught a local news station refused to say his name, John Muhammad for fear it would be an "affront to Islam" so they called him John and whatever his birth name was.

I thought since John is the beloved apostle isn't that an affront to Xians? :p

DrBenway
21st March 2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Libertarian
Fruitcake?

What is that, the sacred food of the Scientologist?

Cleopatra
21st March 2003, 07:16 AM
It's amazing! I doubt if children have noticed anything before all that noise...

Check this one as well....
Church anger over ice-cream sins BBC.com (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2868067.stm)

This is very funny. Hey why Australians prefer Lust?

a fantoche de meia
21st March 2003, 07:33 AM
More commentary on that:
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=15922&highlight=cream

Cleopatra
21st March 2003, 07:40 AM
You guys are amazing! Nothing that has to do with religion escapes your attention :)

crocodile deathroll
21st March 2003, 06:32 PM
How do you feel about the idea of "hot crescent buns"?

Cleopatra
23rd March 2003, 01:32 AM
Do you ask me Crocodile?

I have never tasted them. When I was living in England I wasn't brave enough to taste the english pastry :p

Seriously, those things make me wonder. While the muslim community in England has so many problems, I have been reading in Guardian about those marriages of children, for example, were the hot cross buns their problem?

glee
23rd March 2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Cleopatra
I have never tasted them. When I was living in England I wasn't brave enough to taste the english pastry :p


They're quite pleasant. Basically they are a small pastry with raisins, traditionally served hot with butter spread inside.
The name comes from a couple of crossed strips of a different colour on the top.

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Seriously, those things make me wonder. While the muslim community in England has so many problems, I have been reading in Guardian about those marriages of children, for example, were the hot cross buns their problem?

It's not the Muslims protesting. From the article:

The Muslim Council of Britain called the decision "very, very bizarre". A spokesman said: "This is absolutely amazing. At the moment, British Muslims are very concerned about the upcoming war with Iraq and are hardly going to be taken aback by a hot cross bun.
Unfortunately actions like this can only create a backlash and it is not very thoughtful. I wish they would leave us alone. We are quite capable of articulating our own concerns and if we find something offensive, we will say so. We do not need to rely on other people to do it for us.
British Muslims have been quite happily eating and digesting hot cross buns for many years and I don't think they are suddenly going to be offended."

We have a few self-important councils here, who like to get publicity (or actually think they know best), who occasionally come up with this sort of stuff.
At least it's petty...

Cleopatra
23rd March 2003, 01:57 AM
Oh yes Glee, maybe I failed to make myself clear.
I understood that it wasn't the Muslims that protested and I agree with you.

I think it's ridiculous to show concern on Muslims with those things.

Next time I visit the second most interesting and sexy city on Earth, I will definetely taste those buns :)

glee
23rd March 2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Cleopatra
Oh yes Glee, maybe I failed to make myself clear.
I understood that it wasn't the Muslims that protested and I agree with you.


I thought that's what you meant!

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Next time I will visit the second most interesting and sexy city on Earth, I will definitely taste those buns :)

I feel it is only fair to warn you that English slang for a man with a firm pair of buttocks is "nice set of buns"! :confused: :eek: :cool:

Zep
23rd March 2003, 03:42 AM
FYI, there was no, repeat, NO protests from anywhere about the "Seven Deadly Sins" Magnum ice-cream range in Australia. We accepted them for what they were - frigging ice-creams, for goodness sake! AND they are quite yummo, so we all decided to indulge in the lot without fear or favour.

Actually, the Magnum ice-creams have gone on from there. They now have a "sixties retro" range including names like Candy Worhol, John Lemon, Go Mango, and a few more excruciating puns. However the flavours are even better than the "Sins" range. *sigh* I'm gonna get SO fat! :cool:

Zep

tim
23rd March 2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by glee


I thought that's what you meant!



I feel it is only fair to warn you that English slang for a man with a firm pair of buttocks is "nice set of buns"! :confused: :eek: :cool:

Really? I thought that was an American phrase. Still, anything's possible in Rutland.
Cleopatra, the buns must have butter on them, and it is compulsory to eat them with a good strong cup of tea.

tim
23rd March 2003, 08:41 AM
I really don't see why anyone should be upset by this ban. It is vitally important that we do not risk upsetting Muslims, Jews, Buddists, Hindus, Scientologists and all the other faiths of the world.
With this in mind I propose that all Christian references be banned from our schools completely and while we are at it I think all churches of the Christian faiths should be demolished immediately. In addition I suggest it be made a criminal offense to sell or possess a bible.
There. That should please everyone.