EU blunder obliterates Wales (can’t blame the USA for that one)

[Lucky]

Oops! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm)

Actually I think I prefer the new, slimline Britain. What do other Brits reckon?

Comments, CapelDodger?

[TragicMonkey]

I'm only an ignorant American, but public opinion over here is that if Wales is missing, Prince Charles probably lost it somewhere.

Is there a mechanism in place for skipping a generation when inheriting the monarchy?

[Luke T.]

Save the Wales!

[demon]

Lucky:
"EU blunder obliterates Wales (can’t blame the USA for that one)"

Give me an hour and I`ll see what I can come up with;)

[Lucky]

From TragicMonkey:
I'm only an ignorant American, but public opinion over here is that if Wales is missing, Prince Charles probably lost it somewhere.

Is there a mechanism in place for skipping a generation when inheriting the monarchy?I guess he’s now Prince of the Irish Sea, but I don’t know that that disqualifies him for the job (any more than he is already, I mean).

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by demon
Lucky:
"EU blunder obliterates Wales (can’t blame the USA for that one)"

Give me an hour and I`ll see what I can come up with;)

I'll give you a hint: it has to do with the US support of Sharon about the West Bank. And/or, gun control.

Everything boils down to Israel and gun control, eventually.

[Kerberos]

Lucky:
"EU blunder obliterates Wales (can’t blame the USA for that one)"
Wanna bet? The Eurostat didn't make any mistakes, it's simply ahead of it's time. Wales is mostly low country (I hope), so do to the rising water levels from global warming, which we all know is USA's fault, it will soon be under water. Thus the map will soon be accurate.
Originally posted by demon
[B]Give me an hour and I`ll see what I can come up with
To late. :D

[BPSCG]

Who gives a pinch of owl droppings? What did the Welsh ever give us except words with too many "l"s and "y"s in them? How the hell do you pronounce "Clwyd", anyway?

Euroweenies finally get something right and all anyone can do is complain...

Oh, almost forgot: :p

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by TragicMonkey
I'll give you a hint: it has to do with the US support of Sharon about the West Bank. And/or, gun control.

Everything boils down to Israel and gun control, eventually.
You forgot Bush and the Kyoto protocol. A grievous oversight.. :p

Edited to add: Still your suggestion has merit, I therefore propose a slightly different variation, Eurostat are still in their infinitive wisdom ahead of their time, but rather than Wales disappearing due to rising water levels, it is destroyed by sharon using nuclear weapons after an escalation of the conflict in the West Bank caused partially by US unquestioned support of Sharons policies, and partially by the introduction in the conflict of heavily armed and gunhappy Americans enjoying the new NRA supported "shooting vacation" to the occupied territories. Exactly why Wales was targeted remains unclear though persistent rumors claim that Bush suggested it, while muttering something about "teaching those cheese eating surrender monkeys a lesson."

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by BPSCG
Who gives a pinch of owl droppings? What did the Welsh ever give us except words with too many "l"s and "y"s in them? How the hell do you pronounce "Clwyd", anyway?

Euroweenies finally get something right and all anyone can do is complain...

Oh, almost forgot: :p

Didn't Wales give us Tom Jones as well?

[demon]

Lucky:
"EU blunder obliterates Wales (can’t blame the USA for that one)"
Wanna bet? The Eurostat didn't make any mistakes, it's simply ahead of it's time. Wales is mostly low country (I hope), so do to the rising water levels from global warming, which we all know is USA's fault, it will soon be under water. Thus the map will soon be accurate.

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Originally posted by demon
[B]Give me an hour and I`ll see what I can come up with ;)
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Damn you Kerberos, I was working on something along those lines too:p

[Lucky]

From Demon:
Give me an hour and I`ll see what I can come up with;)
An hour? Honestly, Demon, that’s a bit below par, don’t you think. And I predict a_u_p will beat you to it (actually, I think I could do better than that myself). :)

[BPSCG]

Originally posted by Lucky
From Demon:

An hour? Honestly, Demon, that’s a bit below par, don’t you think. And I predict a_u_p will beat you to it (actually, I think I could do better than that myself). :) HITLER!!!

Okay, let's move on...

[demon]

Lucky:
"An hour? Honestly, Demon, that’s a bit below par, don’t you think. And I predict a_u_p will beat you to it (actually, I think I could do better than that myself). :)

Well, I said an hour just so you wouldn`t think it would be a knee-jerk reaction or anything...;)

[Lucky]

Ever read the quote ‘A beautiful theory killed by a nasty ugly little fact’? (Thomas Huxley).

Well how about SNOWDON? In fact, Wales is (sorry, was) rather a hilly country.

demon, Kerberos: Sorry, but I am disqualifying any theories involving rising sea levels.

I realise that our American friends know b*gger all (non-American) basic geography (I particularly enjoyed Tmy’s Where the hell is Pakistan these days? (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45776) thread) but, given that neither of you seems to be actually American, what could you be thinking?

I think the Sharon thing shows some promise, but it needs more work.

[epepke]

Originally posted by Lucky
Oops! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm)

Actually I think I prefer the new, slimline Britain. What do other Brits reckon?

Maybe Patrick McGoohan was onto something after all.

[Lucky]

From Lisa Simpson:
Didn't Wales give us Tom Jones as well?Well, no; I don’t think you can really claim that. As far as I know he’s still Welsh.

Ghastly thought: he could have been home when it happened. Poor old geezer.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Lucky
From Lisa Simpson:
Well, no; I don’t think you can really claim that. As far as I know he’s still Welsh.

Ghastly thought: he could have been home when it happened. Poor old geezer.

Fine. Wales gave the world Tom Jones.

[BPSCG]

Originally posted by Lucky
From Demon:

An hour? Honestly, Demon, that’s a bit below par, don’t you think. And I predict a_u_p will beat you to it (actually, I think I could do better than that myself). :) Demon - you should have taken that bet. It was about 3:00 in the am in Australia when Lucky posted. Even a_u_p has more of a life than to be sitting up in the ghostly glow of a cathode ray tube at that hour .

Probably.

[Lucky]

From Lisa Simpson:
Fine. Wales gave the world Tom Jones.Yes, and RIP Tom Jones. I admired the man a lot (not for his personal life, obviously, but his voice).

Of course, we all mourn the rest of the Welsh nation, too (except BPSCG, I doubt he does).

[NoZed Avenger]

Originally posted by BPSCG
What did the Welsh ever give us . . . ?



The longbow.

[LostAngeles]

What I personally find immensely funny, is that according to a Scotsman I know, Wales has no love of England. Supposedly there's a good number of Welsh who refuse to speak English just out of spite.

[Lucky]

From epepke:
Maybe Patrick McGoohan was onto something after all. Look, this is a sad day. Is there any need to be flippant?

[CapelDodger]

Not just Tom, but Catherine Zeta.

It's all about the global warming; everybody knows about it around here. When the lower-lying areas like, say, Denmark or East Anglia go under the population will want somewhere to go. Wales is mostly built on the vertical. (Cycling is a more intrepid endeavour in Wales than it is in, say, Denmark.) So we thought we'd slide under the radar by slipping quietly off the map. After all, who expected the London papers to pick up on it?

Fortunately, if you tell people that, they won't believe you.

Rising sea-levels and subsequent land-loss was one reason why the Jutes, Angles, Saxons and, yes, Danes ran riot over the flat bits of the mainland in the past, so I think it's a very sensible measure.

[epepke]

Originally posted by Lucky
From epepke:
Look, this is a sad day. Is there any need to be flippant?

Sorry for being Unmutual.

[Lucky]

CapelDodger: Good to hear from you, because, you know, we were worried .... As for CZ, set your mind at rest; she wasn’t in the UK. We always get several weeks’ warning of a visit, so that we can write lots of letters and emails and make lots of phone-ins saying that the poor woman should be left alone and not hounded by the press while she’s over here.

we thought we'd slide under the radar by slipping quietly off the mapWell, that was pretty damned successful!

[epepke]

Originally posted by Lucky
From Lisa Simpson:
Yes, and RIP Tom Jones. I admired the man a lot (not for his personal life, obviously, but his voice).

It's OK to admire Tom Jones. At least, it's not unusual.

[a_unique_person]

The Tasmanians are always whinging about being left off the map of Australia. There's only 450,000 of them, so I think we can just ignore them myself.

http://www.hartionline.ro/lume/australia.gif

[Globert]

Originally posted by Lucky
Oops! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm)

Actually I think I prefer the new, slimline Britain.


It was Fergie, "Does Wales make my a$$ look fat?":p



-Globe

[Lucky]

From epepke:
It's OK to admire Tom Jones. At least, it's not unusual.It’s the knickers thing, though, isn’t it? Honestly, didn’t you find that just a bit strange?

OK, I know ‘knickers’ isn’t the right American terminology. Translation?

If you could explain what you meant by ‘Unmutual’ that would be even more appreciated.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Lucky
From epepke:
It’s the knickers thing, though, isn’t it? Honestly, didn’t you find that just a bit strange?

OK, I know ‘knickers’ isn’t the right American terminology. Translation?

If you could explain what you meant by ‘Unmutual’ that would be even more appreciated. [/B]

"Panties" instead of knickers. Although I personally like the term knickers better. Panties just does not sound like something an adult woman wears.

I actually don't have a jones for Tom Jones. It just happened that the song "She's a Lady" was being used for an ad, and it reminded me that he's Welsh.

[BPSCG]

Originally posted by Lucky
From Lisa Simpson:
Yes, and RIP Tom Jones. I admired the man a lot (not for his personal life, obviously, but his voice).

Of course, we all mourn the rest of the Welsh nation, too (except BPSCG, I doubt he does). When did Tom Jones die? Actually I always kinda liked his voice.

I wasn't aware that Catherine Zeta-Jones was Welsh. Damn. I might have to rethink my position...

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by BPSCG
When did Tom Jones die? Actually I always kinda liked his voice.



To quote Monty Python "I'm not dead!" However, Wales has disappeared, therefore, Tom is gone too.

[peptoabysmal]

Wow, this forum is so much more exciting now that the US election has been moved into it's own space!

:s2:

relax... just kidding ;)

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by Lucky
Ever read the quote ‘A beautiful theory killed by a nasty ugly little fact’? (Thomas Huxley).

Well how about SNOWDON? In fact, Wales is (sorry, was) rather a hilly country.

demon, Kerberos: Sorry, but I am disqualifying any theories involving rising sea levels.
You're quite right, It WAS quite hilly, but all the hills were leveled by the Isralie Nukes, so there! :p

[Lucky]

From a_u_p:
The Tasmanians are always whinging about being left off the map of Australia. There's only 450,000 of them, so I think we can just ignore them myself.Well, then, you Aussies can easily tidy up your map by a spot of genocide. :)

I'm surprised you haven't managed it yet; let's face it, you've had plenty of practice.

(As Skeptic is temporarily absent, and Mycroft and Z-N wouldn't be seen dead in a thread about the UK, I'm doing the honours).

[CapelDodger]

The Guardian has its own take (http://www.guardian.co.uk/leaders/story/0,,1320431,00.html) on this :

Eurostat has highlighted the uncanny similarities between the myth of Atlantis and the reality of Wales. Plato, in his Critias Dialogue, described Atlantis as blessed by "mountains celebrated for their number and size and beauty" - a clear evocation of the grandeur of Snowdonia. According to Plato, these mountains had "many wealthy villages of country folk, and rivers, and lakes, and meadows supplying food enough for every animal, wild or tame, and much wood of various sorts" - surely a description of Conwy and Gwynedd. Meanwhile, Plato's writing of "the largest of the harbours" being full of "a multitudinous sound of human voices, and din and clatter of all sorts night and day" is obviously a tribute to Cardiff's vibrant bars and clubs, while "the great treasures derived from mines" is a reference to the coal once plentiful in the valleys of Glamorgan. Two mysteries solved, then.

[epepke]

Originally posted by Lucky
It’s the knickers thing, though, isn’t it? Honestly, didn’t you find that just a bit strange?

During most of his career, it was probably Depends.

If you could explain what you meant by ‘Unmutual’ that would be even more appreciated.

Oh, you kids these days! Patrick McGoohan did a show called Danger Man. This was wildly popular in the US, where it was renamed Secret Agent. When it ended, CBS (yes, the one with Dan Rather) wanted more. So, in collaboration with ITV, they bankrolled another Partick McGoohan series, which was filmed in Portmerion. Which is in Wales. This was called The Prisoner. They used the word "unmutual" a lot. Whatever it meant, mostly if you were declared "unmutual" then the big weather balloon called Rover would come smother you. And then they'd hook them up to some electrodes and they'd be All Better.

[Lucky]

OK, Kerberos, but I think your new combined theory falls foul of Ockhams Razor. Also, it doesn't account for the continued existence of CapelDodger.

By the way, CapelDodger, I meant to mention: about your problem (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&action=showpost&postid=1870623435). Try taking more water with it (which shouldn't be difficult for you if Kerberos's theory is correct). Actually, I haven't tried this myself, but several people have recommended it (though others recommend laying off the water altogether). I have tried taking more lager with it, and that seems to work reasonably well.

The problem with the Atlantis idea is that it doesn't seem to implicate the Americans.

[CapelDodger]

Try taking more water with it Out here in the shoe-wearing parts of the island we don't have to waste whisky on disinfecting the water. If Cleopatra reads that she'll be needing smelling-salts. You'll be hearing from my lawyers (Bailie, Nicol and Jarvie) regarding the emotional distress you've caused.:eek:

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by Lucky
OK, Kerberos, but I think your new combined theory falls foul of Ockhams Razor.
Since when do anti-American/Jewish conspiracy theories have to be logical? :confused:

Originally posted by Lucky
Also, it doesn't account for the continued existence of CapelDodger.
Well the US obviously had to cover up the incident. You THINK CapelDodger is still there, but in reality you're conversing with a simulation of CapelDodger sending messages to you from a simulated Wales very much like the Matrix (only with fewer fancy martial arts moves). All planes, trains, boats etc. bound for Wales are hijacked by the CIA, and plugged into the computer for the duration of their stay in "Wales".

Originally posted by Lucky
The problem with the Atlantis idea is that it doesn't seem to implicate the Americans.
Of course it does, everything is US fault just because YOU don't understand it doesn't change the fact.

[Lucky]

From epepke:
Oh, you kids these days!That’s nice, but actually it’s the senility factor – I had forgotten about ‘unmutual’. I now realise what a strange picture you must have of Wales, from watching The Prisoner, set in Portmeirion. Though, when I think about it, the real Welsh are (I mean were) just as strange.


From CapelDodger:
Out here in the shoe-wearing parts of the islandYou mean the flippers-and-snorkel-wearing parts.

As for the water thing, I wasn’t suggesting you put it in the stuff. Actually, perhaps that is what they meant (never thought of that).

[CapelDodger]

from Lucky:As for the water thing, I wasn’t suggesting you put it in the stuff. Actually, perhaps that is what they meant (never thought of that).Apologies for my uncharitable remarks, but you gave me a bit of a turn there. So anyway, the water here isn't coming up, it's coming down in biblical quantities. Raining in Wales ... well there's a thing.

from Kerberos:You THINK CapelDodger is still there ...So do I, so I am. Unless you want to take on Descartes as well as Turing.

I can't see the US being behind this. Half the US cabinet couldn't point out the Pacific on a globe, let alone have heard of Wales without the H. Unless maybe they've got some beef with the Walloons, I couldn't dismiss that, but it's far-fetched.

(I told you all the real truth way back, and none of you believe me. What have we come to when the easiest way to hide the truth is to tell it?)

[epepke]

Originally posted by Lucky
From epepke:
That’s nice, but actually it’s the senility factor – I had forgotten about ‘unmutual’. I now realise what a strange picture you must have of Wales, from watching The Prisoner, set in Portmeirion. Though, when I think about it, the real Welsh are (I mean were) just as strange.[/B]

I made several pilgrimages there before it vanished. I got the impression that the Welsh were very friendly, had a preternatural fondness for The Jesus and Mary Chain, talked in Welsh to all the English, didn't stock Betadyne in their chemists' forcing me to use 15-year-old Laphraoig for a surgical procedure, had beer that would make you all shiny inside, and didn't like vowels much.

[CapelDodger]

from epepke:... talked in Welsh to all the English ...This is a particular irritant around these parts. You hear it from English-speakers all the time. The story basically goes "They were all talking English until we turned up, then they all started talking Welsh". For some reason, it's not a story that's told about the French or the Spanish. But Welsh is not perceived as a "proper" language - more like a thieves' argot.

How are they supposed to know what language was being spoken before they turned up? That question tends to be a conversation-stopper.

Why wouldn't Welsh-speakers be speaking Welsh with their Welsh-speaking friends? They speak English with monoglots. The fact that people at another table are speaking Welsh doesn't mean - and this is where their problem comes in - that they're talking about them.

In my experience, if you're looking for people that will deliberately fail to understand your best efforts at communication, try small-town France. Paris is better; since they intend to rob you anyway, the quicker the business is done the better.

[Darat]

Originally posted by TragicMonkey
I'm only an ignorant American, but public opinion over here is that if Wales is missing, Prince Charles probably lost it somewhere.

Is there a mechanism in place for skipping a generation when inheriting the monarchy?

We've used a system of red hot pokers and beheading in the past....

[Darat]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
Didn't Wales give us Tom Jones as well?

Yes but we can't blame the Welsh for Englebert Humperdink.

[TillEulenspiegel]

Originally posted by Darat
Yes but we can't blame the Welsh for Englebert Humperdink.

Nuke the gay whales!.the humperdink is a species that is dissappearing as it should!

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
The Tasmanians are always whinging about being left off the map of Australia. There's only 450,000 of them, so I think we can just ignore them myself.

Not to worry. After Mary Donaldson married the Danish Crown Prince, Denmark has claimed Tasmania (she's born there).

[CFLarsen]

Removing Wales from the UK? It is nothing. NOTHING!!

I was this close to cause a war (well, probably) between the EU and Israel once. I was working on a website for a EU agency, when I spotted the page with a list of countries which the agency had interests in.

One of them was "Palestine".

I asked the project leader when Palenstine had become a "country". After a few moments of thought, we agreed to remove it and label it something else.

:eek:

[CapelDodger]

from Darat:We've used a system of red hot pokers and beheading in the past....That's Edward and Charles sorted out. What do we do with Andrew? Some Scottish inspiration needed there, perhaps. (I think we're safe from Anne.) Precedent also gets William killed in a hunting "accident" and Henry dying of "melancholy" in the Tower.

That's at least enough for an agenda if not a manifesto.