Identity of religious symbols?

[Deetee]

Could anyone help identify these symbols?
(answers needed for a quiz I'm trying to finish) :)

[Deetee]

Also this one, sorry:

[neutrino_cannon]

Hmm...

Do you have names for either symbol? Groups that use them?

Alas, you can;tlug an image into google, and I don't recognize either one.

[c4ts]

First symbol: Cup of flaming alcohol
Religion: Mormonism, because they'll burn in hell for drinking it.

Second symbol: The seven-bladed talking vorpal death scepter of the half-dragon vampire mystic theruge Morgash as he decapitates an army of mind flayers with one hand tied behind his back!
Religion: You know, I really wasn't looking at the symbol anyway.

[Donks]

The first one might be the Flaming Chalice of the Unitarian Church.

[SezMe]

Originally posted by Donks
The first one might be the Flaming Chalice of the Unitarian Church.
No, theirs looks like the genie bottle and has only one flame.

[mummymonkey]

The first one could be adar. The zoroastrian flame.

[Deetee]

Many thanks for the suggestions so far - I'll try and follow the mormon link for No1.

The symbols are from a quiz sheet - I haven't scanned them but tried to reproduce them from memory. I think the second one with doesn't have the upturned ends which make it look like a flame - they are more petal shaped (a bit like a lotus flower?)

The symbols are meant to represent the religion, rather than just be part of their symbolism in general, I think.

[Vim Razz]

I agree that adar (http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsadar.htm) seems like a good canidate for the first.

The second looks a lot like a lotus (http://www.wagnerur.hu/vegyes2/lotus.jpg). Buddist/Hindu?

[crimresearch]

The Buddhist lotus is usually 8 petalled, isn't it?