Rationalism..................DEBUNKED!

[1inChrist]

If you pick up your keyboard, lift it over your head and let go.....what happens? It drops. Every single time it will drop, right? Yes. Is there anything in the world that would convince you that it would not drop but float in mid air? Ofcourse not. You have put your complete trust in the fact that everytime you let go of the keyboard it will fall to the floor.

This is exactly how Satan works.

He will hide behind something you never question or doubt. You sceptics start with naturalism. You start with the assumption that your reasoning abilities are true. This is where Satan starts his trickery. He knows your path of logic and reason. This allows him to put things in this path to distort the Truth and to lead you the wrong way.

You study history only to find out that Christianity is seemingly nothing more than another religion and another Savior. You dismiss it as mythology and folklore and you don't look back. I mean, why should you believe in Jesus? He's nothing but 1 of many Saviors that died for the Sin of mankind, why is he so special? There are millions of other gods and goddesses. Hell there are many Satans and Hells. Why believe in the Bible? I mean, it's stupid to believe in the Biblical Hell, Satan, Savior and God but reject all the rest. Right?

WRONG!

Satan has put these things in your path of logic and reason to lead you astray. Purposely he sends fall prophets (both before and after Jesus lived) to preach a similar gospel to Jesus. So when people living now look back all they see is Christianity caught in a sea of other similar religions.

But you will never question it. You will never think ''Maybe gravity doesn't cause the keyboard to hit the ground.'' You will never think outside your own reasoning abilities. You will never consider that it's possible that we are in the middle of a war between Good and Evil and we must choose which one we follow. You will never consider that Satan left behind the fossils that supposely ''prove'' evolution. Nope, you will accept your own logic and reasoning abilities blindly and never question them. If you don't question Satan you can never defeat him.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Will you ever consider that God is a drunken frat boy who tells you all these things and then laughs at you behind your back when you foolishly repeat them to others?

[crimresearch]

Purposely he sends fall prophets (both before and after Jesus lived) to preach a similar gospel to Jesus.

Yes, but I already pointed out how you are doing that over in your 9/11 thread... complete with references to the correct gospel, to show where you have made up your own...

[Lisa Simpson]

Let me be the first to say---















I won this debate.

[Nyarlathotep]

And after getting your butt kicked on one thread you start another, much to everyone's surprise......


Here are the problems with your post.

1) you have yet to establish that Satan exists. Thus any claim that reason and logic are his tools is meaningless until you do.

2) It is quite ironic that someone who claims that logic and reason are tools of the devil uses a computer, which is a creation of logic and reason, to post those claims.


:id:

[RabbiSatan]

I think of the great men that have made positive contributions to humanity, and all the great men who have progressed and helped nudge humanity on it's way out of the caves and into sky scrapers, and eventually, into the stars.

Then I see that people like 1inChrist STILL exist in the 21st Cenutury.

*weeps*

[1inChrist]

Will you ever consider that God is a drunken frat boy who tells you all these things and then laughs at you behind your back when you foolishly repeat them to others?

This is a very critical error on your part. You are trying to imagine God in humanistic terms. You call Him Evil based on what you believe to be Evil. In reality, Evil is simply not harm or pain, it is rejecting your very Creator. You see if God does something Good (like punishing sinners for eternity) you interpretation is that He is Evil. You are wrong. Your simple human brain cannot comprehend the complex nature of our Creator.

[Nyarlathotep]

ooo...ooo...

it's been like 15 minutes and I see that 1inChrist hasn't replied to me.

Sorry, Lisa Simpson, but clearly I have won this debate...

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
This is a very critical error on your part. You are trying to imagine God in humanistic terms. You call Him Evil based on what you believe to be Evil. In reality, Evil is simply not harm or pain, it is rejecting your very Creator. You see if God does something Good (like punishing sinners for eternity) you interpretation is that He is Evil. You are wrong. Your simple human brain cannot comprehend the complex nature of our Creator.

To translate:

'Good and Evil mean what 1inChrist says they mean. Don't let anyone (especially Satan) tell you any different'

I wish I had a Humpty-Dumpty smiley....

[Savagemutt]

Well, isn't your ole' buddy god the one who gave us these reasoning abilities? What, did he just do it to make the devil's work easier? Hardly our fault then, is it?

And for the record, my vote is "troll".

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
This is a very critical error on your part. You are trying to imagine God in humanistic terms. You call Him Evil based on what you believe to be Evil. In reality, Evil is simply not harm or pain, it is rejecting your very Creator. You see if God does something Good (like punishing sinners for eternity) you interpretation is that He is Evil. You are wrong. Your simple human brain cannot comprehend the complex nature of our Creator.
Don't underestimate my simple human brain. I am a clever atheist, remember?

Anyway, I am assuming since you rambled off on a tangent about evil that you have no way of knowing whether God is telling youe the truth or playing a practical joke on you?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep And after getting your butt kicked on one thread you start another, much to everyone's surprise......

Butt kicked? No. If I recall correctly I am the one with the sceptics heads mounted on my wall.

Here are the problems with your post.

1) you have yet to establish that Satan exists. Thus any claim that reason and logic are his tools is meaningless until you do.

Me claiming Satan exist is just as valid as you claiming an atom exists.

2) It is quite ironic that someone who claims that logic and reason are tools of the devil uses a computer, which is a creation of logic and reason, to post those claims.

How do you know a Christian didn't create the first computer?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
Don't underestimate my simple human brain. I am a clever atheist, remember?

Anyway, I am assuming since you rambled off on a tangent about evil that you have no way of knowing whether God is telling youe the truth or playing a practical joke on you?

I know He is telling the Truth. If He wasn't Jesus would never of died.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
To translate:

'Good and Evil mean what 1inChrist says they mean. Don't let anyone (especially Satan) tell you any different'

I wish I had a Humpty-Dumpty smiley....

I am not saying they mean anything. I am only repeating what The Holy Spirit tells me.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
ooo...ooo...

it's been like 15 minutes and I see that 1inChrist hasn't replied to me.

Sorry, Lisa Simpson, but clearly I have won this debate...

No...see, yesterday 1inC said he won the debate because he believes in God. So time is not the only criteria for winning a debate. Yesterday, I won because I'm Buddhist.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Savagemutt
Well, isn't your ole' buddy god the one who gave us these reasoning abilities? What, did he just do it to make the devil's work easier? Hardly our fault then, is it?

And for the record, my vote is "troll".

Why don't you just conduct a poll for every single member on this forum to vote in, ok? Get this troll thing out of your system already.

To answer your question no God did not design us with these reasoning abilities. You see, when the Original Parents turned away from God the human race was infected with Sin which gave birth to logic, death, destruction, pain, evil and disease. The Original Parents did not need logic or any other pseudo-Truth because they were with God and knew He was the answer.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist



How do you know a Christian didn't create the first computer?

Anyone, Christian or otherwise, would have to use logic to create a computer. And logic is a tool of Satan, remember?

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I know He is telling the Truth. If He wasn't Jesus would never of died.

First of all... (Puss: Don't correct his grammar, miller boy. That's petty; MdC: Oh, come on, please? Puss: Marquis...) OK, nevermind.

How do you know Jesus died?

[Scot C. Trypal]

If you pick up your Bible, turn to Luke 6:31 and read “as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise..�.....what happens? Every single time it will say that, right? Yes. Is there anything in the world that would convince you that it would not? Of course not. You have put your complete trust in the fact that every time you read that book it will say “as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise".

This is exactly how Satan works.

He will hide behind something you never question or doubt.

It’s really supposed to say, “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.�, like Psalms 137:9, but each time you read the New Testament Satan clouds your mind and you accept it willingly. Tricky demon, making all those Christians into sissy baby-coddling liberal types.

(I’m back in the he’s-serious camp, I guess…)

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Butt kicked? No. If I recall correctly I am the one with the sceptics heads mounted on my wall.

Walking away from hard questions does not equate to mounting scptik heads on the wall


Me claiming Satan exist is just as valid as you claiming an atom exists.[/B]
Give me the right tools and I can show you evidence for an atom. I can make hypotheses that can only be true if atoms exist and then demonstrate those hypotheses to be true. If you can do the same for Satan and I will accept his existance. Stories from the 'Weekly World News' do not demonstrate Satan's existance any more than the movie 'Star Wars' demonstrates the existance of Darth Vader.


How do you know a Christian didn't create the first computer? [/B]

It doesn't matter. It is still a product (probably the ultimate product, to date) of reason and logic. And you calim that these things are tools of the devil and thus bad. Therefore computers are evil, as is modern medicine, and any other sort of technology, now that I think about it.

So in short, why aren't you living like the Amish?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
No...see, yesterday 1inC said he won the debate because he believes in God. So time is not the only criteria for winning a debate. Yesterday, I won because I'm Buddhist.

Isn't Lisa Simpson from that cartoon with yellow characters?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am not saying they mean anything. I am only repeating what The Holy Spirit tells me.

For which I have only your word. I could say that Elvis is in my office right now, dictating every word I type. Doesn't make it so.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Isn't Lisa Simpson from that cartoon with yellow characters?

Yes. And the character Lisa Simpson is a Buddhist. Get it?

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Isn't Lisa Simpson from that cartoon with yellow characters?
Lisa Simpson is the Beast from the earth. She's going to barcode you and make you worship Piscivore. I'd show some respect if I were you.

[Jellby]

God gave us free will. We chose to be atheists. Why do you try to change what God created?

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
No...see, yesterday 1inC said he won the debate because he believes in God. So time is not the only criteria for winning a debate. Yesterday, I won because I'm Buddhist.

Yes, you did. But today I win because I'm a Tacoist.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
Yes, you did. But today I win because I'm a Tacoist.

Curses! Foiled again.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Jellby
God gave us free will. We chose to be atheists. Why do you try to change what God created?

I am just spreading the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice to the eternal Hellfire.

[Zombified]

Ok, 1inChrist, let's see it - Lift your computer over your head and drop it. Sure, it will fall on your head the first few times, but that's just Satan tricking you. Just keep doing it until your faith is strong enough.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am just spreading the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice to the eternal Hellfire.
Yay! Sacrifice! Blood and gore! Torture! Agony! Yay!

Your loving God's a great chap. Really.

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
To answer your question no God did not design us with these reasoning abilities.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Well, it's clear he didn't design *you* with these abilities.

[Savagemutt]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Why don't you just conduct a poll for every single member on this forum to vote in, ok? Get this troll thing out of your system already.


I'm just trying to get you to try harder. You show great promise.

Originally posted by 1inChrist
To answer your question no God did not design us with these reasoning abilities. You see, when the Original Parents turned away from God the human race was infected with Sin which gave birth to logic, death, destruction, pain, evil and disease. The Original Parents did not need logic or any other pseudo-Truth because they were with God and knew He was the answer.

Riiiiight... You're a biblical literalist aren't you? Can you show us where in your holy books it says that's the way it happened? If you can't, then why do you believe it?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep Give me the right tools and I can show you evidence for an atom. I can make hypotheses that can only be true if atoms exist and then demonstrate those hypotheses to be true. If you can do the same for Satan and I will accept his existance. Stories from the 'Weekly World News' do not demonstrate Satan's existance any more than the movie 'Star Wars' demonstrates the existance of Darth Vader.

Give me the right tools and I can prove Satan too.

It doesn't matter. It is still a product (probably the ultimate product, to date) of reason and logic. And you calim that these things are tools of the devil and thus bad. Therefore computers are evil, as is modern medicine, and any other sort of technology, now that I think about it.

No it's not. The Christian who created the first computer could of had God guiding them, not their own reasoning abilities. How do you know God did not send down the plans for the first computer? You are only assuming human's created the first computer by themselves.

So in short, why aren't you living like the Amish?

Because.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
Lisa Simpson is the Beast from the earth. She's going to barcode you and make you worship Piscivore. I'd show some respect if I were you.

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/1673/barc666.gif

Here you go!

Is it just me, or do 1inC's thread dissolve into silliness very quickly?

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
Is it just me, or do 1inC's thread dissolve into silliness very quickly?

It did, and I didn't even mention Hitler!

[1inChrist]

Yes, you did. But today I win because I'm a Tacoist.

You are a Buddhist? Read this (http://jesus-is-lord.com/newage13.txt).

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
http://img16.exs.cx/img16/1673/barc666.gif

Here you go!

Is it just me, or do 1inC's thread dissolve into silliness very quickly?
Good work, earth Beast. :D

And I was under the impression they started silly.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
You are a Buddhist? Read this (http://jesus-is-lord.com/newage13.txt).
I bet he believes in vampires, too. Sic' em!

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
You are a Buddhist? Read this (http://jesus-is-lord.com/newage13.txt).

Dude, you posted that yesterday too. It was racist and intolerant then, same as now.

[Yaotl]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Give me the right tools and I can prove Satan too.



No it's not. The Christian who created the first computer could of had God guiding them, not their own reasoning abilities. How do you know God did not send down the plans for the first computer? You are only assuming human's created the first computer by themselves.



Because.

You're kidding right? That's the best you could come up with? "Because"? And how do you know that your god isn't speaking through everyone and he's just telling them all different things?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am just spreading the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice to the eternal Hellfire.

Oh, and there is YET ANOTHER inconsitancy in the whole Christian mytholgy thing.

God supposedly sacrifced his son to 'pay for our sins'. Yet God and Jesus are supposedly the same being and he just got up three days later and went back to heaven.

Now, perhaps you and I have different ideas of what 'sacrifice' means, but no diety in history, not even the God of the old testament has ever (as far as I know) defined a sacrifice as torturing something, but not really killing it. The old testament God did not ask for sheep to be sacrificed by torturing them then knocking them unconscious so they'd be up and walking around in a few hours. And for a diety to come down, be killed and then get up and go back to heaven in three days, that's pretty much the same thing.

And if God set the rules (which he had to have done, if he created the universe and all), why did he set it up so that someone had to 'pay the price' four our so-called sins anyway.

Your God makes no sense.

[control_zape]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
Stories from the 'Weekly World News' do not demonstrate Satan's existance any more than the movie 'Star Wars' demonstrates the existance of Darth Vader.


Darth Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Nyarlathotep: [gasp for air]

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Give me the right tools and I can prove Satan too.

Fine, what do you need?



No it's not. The Christian who created the first computer could of had God guiding them, not their own reasoning abilities. How do you know God did not send down the plans for the first computer? You are only assuming human's created the first computer by themselves.[/B]

Of course you are assuming that the guy that built the first computer was in fact a Christian. He may have been a Satanist. I don't know. I am willing to bet that you don't either. And why do you count only the guy that built the FIRST computer, why not the guy who designed the one you are working on right now.



Because. [/B]

Great non-answer. Yep, that's how you mount those skeptic heads on walls, with witty non-answers like that.:rolleyes:

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
You are a Buddhist? Read this (http://jesus-is-lord.com/newage13.txt).


NO! He's a TACOIST. Do you have a racist and intolerant link for him?


Dragonrock, I was next in line to win, and having a nap while this thread evolved (ouch!).

Therefore, I am the winner.

You can win next time. It's easy.

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
... And why do you count only the guy that built the FIRST computer, why not the guy who designed the one you are working on right now.


The guy that designed the brand-new computer I just got, that is now a $2000 paperweight, was certainly a tool of the devil.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Of course you are assuming that the guy that built the first computer was in fact a Christian. He may have been a Satanist. I don't know. I am willing to bet that you don't either. And why do you count only the guy that built the FIRST computer, why not the guy who designed the one you are working on right now.


I don't know offhand who built the first computer, but Alan Turing, a founder of computer science, was gay. Obviously, he was on Satan's side, even though he helped win WWII working on Enigma.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
NO! He's a TACOIST. Do you have a racist and intolerant link for him?


Dragonrock, I was next in line to win, and having a nap while this thread evolved (ouch!).

Therefore, I am the winner.

You can win next time. It's easy.

So, as a Servant of Cthulhu, do I get to win next.

Cthulhu will be very angry if not....

[1inChrist]

Okay,

I cannot prove the Beast exists but just assume it for a moment. If the Beast and God existed, it perfectly explains everything we see in the world.

[Scot C. Trypal]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
I don't know offhand who built the first computer, but Alan Turing, a founder of computer science, was gay. Obviously, he was on Satan's side, even though he helped win WWII working on Enigma.

I read a good biography about Turing a while back and I believe he was an atheist, as well as gay.

[Piscivore]

Originally posted by Puss (via the Marquis de Carabas)
Don't correct his grammar... That's petty

Well, I'll be petty. :D

"Rationalism debunked"? You may be collecting skeptics' heads, 1inC, but I'm collecting your oxymorons (see, another report of an atheist having higher morals than a Christian- must be true). Please tell me you live in some poverty-stricken third-world backwater and you've only just heard of the English language. Like Arkansas. Do you live in Arkansas?

I'm further impressed by how your "god" exuses your fundamental laziness. Education is of the devil, so you don't need to exert any effort- just sit down and shut up. Do what the priest says Jimmy; lie back and think of Jesus.

I'm glad your daughters escaped the morass of ignorance and hate you wallow in. Seriously. If you are the measure of a "good Christian", I'll go to hell with a song in my heart and be "consumed forever" in joy.

Of course I won't, because it's all just a story in a book. A book badly in need of an editor, and the worse historical fiction I've read.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
I don't know offhand who built the first computer, but Alan Turing, a founder of computer science, was gay. Obviously, he was on Satan's side, even though he helped win WWII working on Enigma.

Then ther is that matter of what you define as the first computer. Charles Babbage created his "difference engine" in the 19th century. I don't know about his religious proclivities, but he was a scientist and a mathematician, and since math is nothing but applied logic, he was obviously a tool of the devil, by 1inChrist's logic.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Okay,

I cannot prove the Beast exists but just assume it for a moment. If the Beast and God existed, it perfectly explains everything we see in the world.

It might explain everything you see in the world.

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Okay,

I cannot prove the Beast exists but just assume it for a moment. If the Beast and God existed, it perfectly explains everything we see in the world.

Likewise if neither exists.

[1inChrist]

It might explain everything you see in the world.

It does.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Okay,

I cannot prove the Beast exists but just assume it for a moment. If the Beast and God existed, it perfectly explains everything we see in the world.

So does physics, chemistry, math and all those other tools of logic.

And none of those requires inventing magic, self contradictory entities.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by alfaniner
Likewise if neither exists.

How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
It might explain everything you see in the world.

It does.

Good for you. However, it doesn't explain everything I see in the world.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
So, as a Servant of Cthulhu, do I get to win next.

Cthulhu will be very angry if not....

Ok...so, the future winners will be:

Dragonrock
Nyarlathotep

Turing
Babbage

Then back to Lisa Simpson

[Yaotl]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

...they don't exist last time I checked.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

People faking things to other people to get money from them.

[Scot C. Trypal]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

What a fun world you inhabit!

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
People faking things to other people to get money from them.

I can PROVE prophecies and Faith healing. Want me to?

Prophecies - Octobor 29th, 2004.

Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I can PROVE prophecies and Faith healing. Want me to?

Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

Cool! What can you heal? Anything? Migraines, perhaps?

[Zombified]

1inChrist, did you actually try the dropping-the-computer thing, or are you ignoring that? Don't have as much faith as you're pretending, do you?

[Piscivore]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

And don't you though... :D

Okay, ready- "Lies and good guesses, delusions, delusions, liars and frauds and the self-deluded, ibid, fairytales and new-agers, fairytales and fictions and new-agers, fictions, liars and frauds feeding off the self-deluded, and liars and frauds and self-deluded good guessers."

Anything else?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

When you can show any of those to be anything more than a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, you might be on to something. That hasn't been done so far.

And that's the thing about science. Science, unlike religion, does not claim to have all the answers. Let's pick something at random off your list. Something provable, like.......psychics. If it were proven that psychic's could do what they claimed, all it would mean is that science would then have to look at HOW it was done and incorporate that into any future theories.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I can PROVE prophecies and Faith healing. Want me to?

Prophecies - Octobor 29th, 2004.

Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

My wife was just diagnosed with pleurisy. She is in extreme pain and is doped up on vacatin. I would believe you if you healed her. It has to be in less than 4 days as that is the normal recovery time.

edited to correct the spelling of pleurisy.

[Anathema]

I have come to a conclusion about 1-Inch-Christ:

He's an actor. The character he is playing here is crafted and fraudulent. There are major inconsistencies in his dumber-than-dirt-Christian persona, but I'm not going waste time cataloging them all into a case to demonstrate it.

In short, he's an exeperienced button-pushing troll --- and I suspect this isn't his first trip through this particular forum.

I won't be taking the bait any longer....I've never been fond of baloney anyway.

[alfaniner]

My turn...

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

You forgot Vampires . Oh wait, only Marquis de Carabas believes in vampires, isn't that right?

[Bruce]

Does anyone here remember ICanTakePicturesOfDemons? Does this guy sound a lot like him? Maybe it is him.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by alfaniner
My turn...



You forgot Vampires . Oh wait, only Marquis de Carabas believes in vampires, isn't that right?

What about Elvis and the Great Taco In The Sky? Has anyone proven the existence of Elvis?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I can PROVE prophecies and Faith healing. Want me to?

Prophecies - Octobor 29th, 2004.

Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

You can't just drop out a date and claim it as a prophecy, because you could then claim ANYTHING that happens on that date as a 'hit'. That's a Lucianarchy trick (hmmmm........). What specifically do you claim will happen on Oct. 29, 2004?

As for the faith healing. I have a chronic illness. I won't say what but I will tell you that barring surgery (which is unnecessary at this point) or a miracle it will never go away. Heal it. I will have it checked on in December, so you have that long.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by alfaniner

You forgot Vampires . Oh wait, only Marquis de Carabas believes in vampires, isn't that right?
:rolleyes: I never said that. I said vampire babies. Sheesh.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Bruce
Does anyone here remember ICanTakePicturesOfDemons? Does this guy sound a lot like him? Maybe it is him.

I dunno. His 'prophecy' has me thinking Lucianarchy.

[crimresearch]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
How do you explain:

Prophecies
Out of Body experiences
Near Death experiences
Psychics
Mediums
Witches
Wizards
Miracles
Faith healing
Prophets

I could go on and on....

So after denying his Savior, Jesus Christ in the other thread, NoneinChrist is now claiming that witches and wizards are needed for God to exist?

OK, that makes it a lock..
He is a sock puppet troll pretending to be an Xtian who worships New Age claptrap.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
You can't just drop out a date and claim it as a prophecy, because you could then claim ANYTHING that happens on that date as a 'hit'. That's a Lucianarchy trick (hmmmm........). What specifically do you claim will happen on Oct. 29, 2004?

As for the faith healing. I have a chronic illness. I won't say what but I will tell you that barring surgery or a miracle it will never go away. Heal it. I will have it checked on in December, so you have that long.

Yes my child I will take away your illness. Can you give me your first name so I can call you by it while I speak to the Lord and call upon His guidance?

[Piscivore]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

I am. I won't tell you of what- surely the Holy Spirit can do that much, right? Tell me what my illness is (there are several to choose from, so you've got a good chance) and I'll tell you if it goes away.

You don't even have to heal the big ones. take care of the little annoying one and I'll believe.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Yes my child I will take away your illness. Can you give me your first name so I can call you by it while I speak to the Lord and call upon His guidance?

If God is omniscient, he ought to know full well who I am.

[Dragonrock]

I'm starting to smell the drunken fumes of De_Bunk. Does De_Bunk have enough patience to run a troll like 69inChrist?

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Yes my child I will take away your illness. Can you give me your first name so I can call you by it while I speak to the Lord and call upon His guidance?

Good luck trying to pronounce "Nyarlathotep". I suspect the answer you'll get back is "What the **** kind of a name is that?? Could you spell it, please?"

[1inChrist]

Dragonrock I am only doing one illness and since your wife will be recovered in 4 days I think it's fairer to heal someone with a more permanent illness.

Hope you understand :).

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
I dunno. His 'prophecy' has me thinking Lucianarchy.
For the record, he did make a specific prophecy. It's somewhere in the General Skepticism forum, though I don't feel like looking. He predicted the capture of bin Laden on that date.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Dragonrock I am only doing one illness and since your wife will be recovered in 4 days I think it's fairer to heal someone with more permanent.

Hope you understand :).
Omnipotence only goes so far, Dragonrock. Quit trying to overburden the Almighty.

[Yaotl]

How about you just heal everyone? If he can heal one person no problem, what burden would it be to heal every single person on this planet?

[1inChrist]

For the record I cannot prounce the name that's why I need another one.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Dragonrock I am only doing one illness and since your wife will be recovered in 4 days I think it's fairer to heal someone with more permanent.

Hope you understand :).

No, I don't understand. I called the healing first. Besides, my wife hasn't been able to sleep in 2 days due to the pain.

[Piscivore]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
For the record I cannot prounce the name that's why I need another one.

Anybody wanna bet he doesn't know why the idea of "praying for Nyarlathotep" is hysterically funny? :D

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
No, I don't understand. I called the healing first. Besides, my wife hasn't been able to sleep in 2 days due to the pain.

But she'll be well in 4 days. That means God will heal her anyway in 4 days.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Dragonrock I am only doing one illness and since your wife will be recovered in 4 days I think it's fairer to heal someone with a more permanent illness.

Hope you understand :).

We'll see in December about your healing skills....

December 18th is my next appointment (I think, let me check on the exact date) about it, and if it's gone I'll let you know.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
No, I don't understand. I called the healing first. Besides, my wife hasn't been able to sleep in 2 days due to the pain.


not to doubt 1inChrist's healing powers, but have they given your wife anything for the pain?

I wish her a speedy recovery (if I could heal her, I would)

[Ipecac]

Yep, he's definitely moved into troll country. I thought he was sincere, but now I think he's just pushing our buttons.

[1inChrist]

What's your name? I need a name!

[The GM]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
quote:
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So in short, why aren't you living like the Amish?
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Because.
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Atleast the Amish stick to their code and aren't hypocrites about it, Non Christian Troll.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
We'll see in December about your healing skills....

December 18th is my next appointment (I think, let me check on the exact date) about it, and if it's gone I'll let you know.

See, my wife will give a quicker response. If you heal Nyarlathotep then we won't know of your efficacy for two months.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
For the record I cannot prounce the name that's why I need another one.
Try "...the deputy or messenger of hidden and terrible powers - the 'Black Man' of the witch cult..." That should be identification enough for the Omniscient.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
For the record I cannot prounce the name that's why I need another one.

Ny (rhymes with Rhye)

Ar (rhymes with star)

lath (rhymes with math)

O

Tep (rhymes with step)

Of course, most people on the board call me Ny, so that ought to be easily pronouncable.

[Yaotl]

ooh ooh! Can you make me sterile?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Ipecac
Yep, he's definitely moved into troll country. I thought he was sincere, but now I think he's just pushing our buttons.

Take your closed mind and go away. The fact is God heals people everyday and you are just to blind to see it. Why are you trying to stop me from taking away someone's illness? Are you immoral?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
Ny (rhymes with Rhye)

Ar (rhymes with star)

lath (rhymes with math)

O

Tep (rhymes with step)

Of course, most people on the board call me Ny, so that ought to be easily pronouncable.

Thank you Ny.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
not to doubt 1inChrist's healing powers, but have they given your wife anything for the pain?

I wish her a speedy recovery (if I could heal her, I would)

Thanks for your well wishes. I said earlier that she was on vicatin but I went back and checked, they gave her Ultram which is an opiat base so she is feeling nauseous and sleepy right now. But at least she's not in too much pain to breathe.

[Skeptical Greg]

Franko, is that you?

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
You are a Buddhist? Read this (http://jesus-is-lord.com/newage13.txt).

1Ic, when you truly understand why you are not a Buddhist, then you will truly understand why I am not a Christian.

[The Cats Venm]

1inChrist,

I have cancer. I have already lost an arm because a tumour was growing in my shoulder. Now the cancer has spread to my lungs. I am not on chemotherapy or any other treatment because I already had them and the cancer still grew.

Please, if you are telling the truth, ask God to heal me. I cannot think of anything that would change my mind so absolutely as that.

My name is Steven.

Thank you.

[1inChrist]

I will go into deep prayer tonight and speak with the Lord requesting an unbeliever, Ny, be healed of his illness so his body may be clean and so he can experience to true Glory of the Lord and His power.

[Seismosaurus]

1inChrist, I have a growth on my back which has been there for some 20 years now. It's kinda like a really big mole. Can you get rid of it for me?

I will PM you my first name if you require it.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
Thanks for your well wishes. I said earlier that she was on vicatin but I went back and checked, they gave her Ultram which is an opiat base so she is feeling nauseous and sleepy right now. But at least she's not in too much pain to breathe.

Ask her doc if she also can have a cough syrup with dextromethorphan. Works wonders if she has no contraindications.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Well, 1inC, I hope you succeed in healing Ny and any others you take on board. Seriously, I do. That would be wonderful (and get you a cool million if you could repeat it)

If you do not succeed, though, what conclusion will you draw?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by The Cats Venm
1inChrist,

I have cancer. I have already lost an arm because a tumour was growing in my shoulder. Now the cancer has spread to my lungs. I am not on chemotherapy or any other treatment because I already had them and the cancer still grew.

Please, if you are telling the truth, ask God to heal me. I cannot think of anything that would change my mind so absolutely as that.

My name is Steven.

Thank you.

Are you even serious?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I will go into deep prayer tonight and speak with the Lord requesting an unbeliever, Ny, be healed of his illness so his body may be clean and so he can experience to true Glory of the Lord and His power.

Okey dokey.

[The GM]

Originally posted by The Cats Venm

My name is Steven.


Man, that sucks. Sucks doesn't describe it, actually. I was genuinely sorry to hear this, sir. I wish you all the best.

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Take your closed mind and go away. The fact is God heals people everyday and you are just to blind to see it. Why are you trying to stop me from taking away someone's illness? Are you immoral?

Sorry, not closed minded. I was once a Christian but I opened my mind to reality. You're the closed minded one.

Why do you claim god can heal someone's wife, but needs to know her name? Doesn't god already know who the heck we're talking about?

You're the immoral one. You already admitted you'd lie, steal and murder if you didn't believe in god. I don't believe and I don't do any of those things.

[alfaniner]

I joke about a lot in a thread like this but I'd like to express my serious sympathy and concern for anyone who does need some medical attention. I won't say that they are prayers, but my thoughts and good wishes go out to those who are suffering from some sort of affliction.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Ask her doc if she also can have a cough syrup with dextromethorphan. Works wonders if she has no contraindications.

Is that steroidal? She tries to avoid steriods as they shoot her blood sugar up to the point that she basically has type II diabetes.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by alfaniner
I joke about a lot in a thread like this but I'd like to express my serious sympathy and concern for anyone who does need some medical attention. I won't say that they are prayers, but my thoughts and good wishes go out to those who are suffering from some sort of affliction.

me, too.

May you be well and free of suffering and pain.

[Filip Sandor]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
If you pick up your keyboard, lift it over your head and let go.....what happens? It drops. Every single time it will drop, right? Yes. Is there anything in the world that would convince you that it would not drop but float in mid air? Ofcourse not. You have put your complete trust in the fact that everytime you let go of the keyboard it will fall to the floor.

This is exactly how Satan works.

He will hide behind something you never question or doubt. You sceptics start with naturalism. You start with the assumption that your reasoning abilities are true. This is where Satan starts his trickery. He knows your path of logic and reason. This allows him to put things in this path to distort the Truth and to lead you the wrong way.

Hey there 1 in C,

I've been reading some of your posts on the board and I must admit I have chuckled a few times to myself in reading. Your logic is so grossly fallacious it cannot even be called logic. It is utter chaos. Chaos that you tailor very specifically, with hints of logic here and there, in order to convince your audience that what you say is true.

Your persistance in your methods demonstrates a lack of willingness to reason. Heck, you seem to abandon reason all together unless it is contained in the context of biblical scripture. Somehow, you believe that the same rules of reason that apply in a biblical context are suddenly false when applied to anything else remotely related to the Bible.

I am forced to wonder how on earth you interract with regular people in society. Do you harass and insult your co-workers the way you you do the people here? Does every conversation you have with someone end in them being degraded and tricked into accepting your "unique" interpretation of the Bible? Surely you can't be right about everthing.

Another thing is sure, almost everything you say places more ridicule on "your weird religion" in the minds of the people here. Of course, a lot of people here know the true Christian religion is more reflective of a way of life and the human character rather than dogmaticism. Your intentions may be good, but your methods are absolutely useless in aiding people to your religion.

Of course, I am sure you realise all this being a man of God and I am sure you have your own reasoning behind your bizarre methods of conversion through insults and illogical arguements.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by alfaniner
I joke about a lot in a thread like this but I'd like to express my serious sympathy and concern for anyone who does need some medical attention. I won't say that they are prayers, but my thoughts and good wishes go out to those who are suffering from some sort of affliction.
Can't add anything to that but "amen."

[Piscivore]

Originally posted by alfaniner
I joke about a lot in a thread like this but I'd like to express my serious sympathy and concern for anyone who does need some medical attention. I won't say that they are prayers, but my thoughts and good wishes go out to those who are suffering from some sort of affliction.

Seconded. A wise person once told me that if one ever needed to get some perspective on one's life, one should announce on an Internet message board how much one is suffering. My medical problems pale in comparison.

[The Cats Venm]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Are you even serious?

I am completely serious.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
Is that steroidal? She tries to avoid steriods as they shoot her blood sugar up to the point that she basically has type II diabetes.


nope. It's an over-the-counter cough suppressant and an NMDA-receptor antagonist. It helps with breathing and pain. But ask her doc first.

Here's some more info (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682492.html)

Sorry to derail the thread.

[Dragonrock]

Filip, That is quite the excellent avatar you have. Is there more to the painting?

Edited to add: TruthSeeker, I think Christ-par-1's threads are born derailed.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
nope. It's an over-the-counter cough suppressant and an NMDA-receptor antagonist. It helps with breathing and pain. But ask her doc first.

Here's some more info (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682492.html)

Sorry to derail the thread.
I don't believe derailing a thread discussing crackpot claims to magical powers to provide information that could honestly help someone is too heavily frowned upon. :D

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by The Cats Venm
I am completely serious.

You have my deepest sympathies. That makes my migraines seem minor.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
I don't believe derailing a thread discussing crackpot claims to magical powers to provide information that could honestly help someone is too heavily frowned upon. :D

There's an interesting symmetry in a way :D

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Piscivore
Seconded. A wise person once told me that if one ever needed to get some perspective on one's life, one should announce on an Internet message board how much one is suffering. My medical problems pale in comparison.

Cats Venm's problems make mine pale too. Mine are merely extremely annoying, his (hers? I don't know) are potentially lethal. I do hope that all goes well for you, CV.

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Ipecac
Sorry, not closed minded. I was once a Christian but I opened my mind to reality. You're the closed minded one.

Why did you turn away from Him?

Why do you claim god can heal someone's wife, but needs to know her name? Doesn't god already know who the heck we're talking about?

But I need to know what we are talking about so I can communicate with Him.

You're the immoral one. You already admitted you'd lie, steal and murder if you didn't believe in god.

Atheists that are moral know God exists deep down.

I don't believe and I don't do any of those things.

So you say. But if you do lie how do I know you aren't lying about not lying. :p

[1inChrist]

Steven and Ny you will be in my deep prayers tonight.

I believe God will heal you because He loves everyone, even the sceptics.

[Marquis de Carabas]

1inC,

If your healing fails, what conclusion will you draw?

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Steven and Ny you will be in my deep prayers tonight.

I believe God will heal you because He loves everyone, even the sceptics.

and you pray for me, too? i have migraines caused by jesus tap dancing in the apartment above mine. stupid, inconsiderate saviour.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
1inC,

If your healing fails, what conclusion will you draw?

I second the above question.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Steven and Ny you will be in my deep prayers tonight.

I believe God will heal you because He loves everyone, even the sceptics.


So are you saying that God does not love those he does not heal?

What about the Christians whose prayers fall on deaf ears?

[1inChrist]

1inC,

If your healing fails, what conclusion will you draw?

That I failed or God has His reasons for not healing them. I healed someone over the internet before and I believe I can heal these two also. I will heal them so all you sceptics can witness His power.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
That I failed or God has His reasons for not healing them. I healed someone over the internet before and I believe I can heal these two also. I will heal them so all you sceptics can witness His power.

Not an unexpected response.

MIght I suggest you google the term "post hoc rationalization"

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
So are you saying that God does not love those he does not heal?

What about the Christians whose prayers fall on deaf ears?

God does not heal everybody. Why? I don't know why but He doesn't. However I have witnessed healers heal people (even unbelievers) live. I know Faith healing works as I have seen it and even did it myself once. All I did was call upon the name of the Lord and asked him to cast out the disease that plagued an individual I met online. The next day that person told me they woke up feeling PERFECT.

[The GM]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
God does not heal everybody. Why? I don't know why but He doesn't. However I have witnessed healers heal people (even unbelievers) live. I know Faith healing works as I have seen it .


Out of curiousity, did you happen to see this healing at a Benny Hinn show?

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by The GM
Out of curiousity, did you happen to see this healing at a Benny Hinn show?

No but I've seen him on TV before and he is GREAT.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
God does not heal everybody. Why? I don't know why but He doesn't. However I have witnessed healers heal people (even unbelievers) live. I know Faith healing works as I have seen it and even did it myself once. All I did was call upon the name of the Lord and asked him to cast out the disease that plagued an individual I met online. The next day that person told me they woke up feeling PERFECT.

I actually believe you are well intentioned but your approach is not sound. Some possibilities:

Was he/she really ill?
Was he/she healed? Assuming there was no deliberate dishonesty, feeling PERFECT the next day could be 1) a placebo response, 2)desire to please you, 3) a normal variation in the state of the illness

Many people who are "healed" on the spot by faith healers, in the end, really are not healed at all. They are caught up in the moment...a strong desire for healing plus strong emotions can lead to a seeming cure that does not last.

Seriously, GM mentioned Benny Hinn...I suggest you read about his supposed healings.

I work with the terminally ill at the end of life. I can't tell you the damage that is done by the "if you have enough faith, your prayers for healing will be answered" approach does. So much guilt in the survivors; so much disappointment in the dying. Terrible.

[Z]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am just spreading the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice to the eternal Hellfire.

I know it's old, and I haven't read past this point - I couldn't pass this one up.

After Jesus died and was reborn, He descended into the Pit and released all the souls that were in Hell, threw down Satan, and reigns eternally over Hell. Among those released were Adam and Eve themselves, forgiven of their original sin, along with the rest of humanity.

... or have you never read the Scripture that tells us this? Granted, it's in some of the texts excluded from the KJV, but surely you aren't basing your belief in God on one Reader's Digest Condensed Scripture, are you?

[Scot C. Trypal]

It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

1inChrist, can you post a link to there? I’d be interested in reading the posts regarding this event you describe.

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by EdipisReks
and you pray for me, too? i have migraines caused by jesus tap dancing in the apartment above mine. stupid, inconsiderate saviour.

That's a new one I'll have to add.

"JESUS H. TAP-DANCING CHRIST!!"

And I think it says a lot that a few years ago I would have been afraid to type such a thing, for fear of being SMOTED!! None of that nonsense now.

[Z]

1IC, if logic and reason are tools of the Devil, then it follows that necessarily any product of logic and reason are likewise tools of the Devil. Therefore, you are sinning by using any such products - such as medicine, electricity, computers, cultivated food, manufactured clothing and goods... Get the picture? Sinner. God hates you. Burn in Hell.

[c4ts]

1inC demonstrates such an understanding in critical thinking. :rolleyes: I'd be insulted if anything he said actually applied to anyone on this board, other than a few select trolls. Fortunately it doesn't.

I used to have time to argue with people like 1inC, but experience has taught me there is really nothing I can do to open a mind once it has been closed so tightly. All the socratic questioning in the world is only going to amount to "Devil!" and other hoohaw in the eyes of a believer. People like 1inC experience some sort of confusion between opinion and anything else, as if everything could be defined by opinion. Things like critical thinking just look like another opinion no different than his, so what is true about the way 1inC thinks must be true about everyone else, which is a kind of dogmatic reasoning where things are assumed to be true without actually knowing or drawing well-supported conclusions. In other words, 1inC's knowledge is limited to what other people tell him, and only people he already trusts, and it will never progress beyond this point. You can see this in his posts, where he continues to regurgitate the same strawmen all over the boards, indicating that he has not even adapted his arguments to the criticism he recieves. And when everybody criticizes the same points, it looks like we are doing what he is. He is like a chicken trained to play tic-tac-toe, having memorized responding moves to every square on the board, and here we are trying to teach him how to write. Do not let him and others like him close your mind to the religious, otherwise you will sink to his level, and he will beat you at his own game.

[Marquis de Carabas]

It may be worth noting that last night, after telling my staunchly southern Baptist friend about 1inC and his mystical healing powers, he replied, "Maybe he's off his medication."

[Suezoled]

I find the guy who claimed his hamster left a message about the 3rd scriptures on JREF was so much more interesting. The hamster I mean.

[crimresearch]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
It may be worth noting that last night, after telling my staunchly southern Baptist friend about 1inC and his mystical healing powers, he replied, "Maybe he's off his medication."

It should be apparent to all that NoneinChrist is a badly made spoof of a fundy Xtian..the whole New Age witchcraft believing, Jesus rejecting shtick has unravelled pretty completely by now.

Anyone seriously attempting to engage him as though he were a Christian is just feeding the sock puppet *and* the troll.

[Cosmo]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Atheists that are moral know God exists deep down.

...you can't be serious. :eek:

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Why did you turn away from Him?

But I need to know what we are talking about so I can communicate with Him.

Atheists that are moral know God exists deep down.

So you say. But if you do lie how do I know you aren't lying about not lying. :p

I didn't turn away from "him". I realized that there was no more reason to believe in Christ than there was any other deity. Christianity's history is replete with the same "made by humans" stamp as every other religion. I also realized that Christianity made no sense and the rules it set forth couldn't possibly have been set forth by a compassionite, intelligent, loving creator. Since there is NO evidence of any god, why act as if there is? I am much happier now.

I would think that according to your belief, it doesn't matter if YOU know who we are talking about. Just say, "God, please heal the people we were talking about on the JREF." If he's omniscient, he knows who you're asking about right? Or is this like a magic spell where you have to name the person for it to work?

Your statement about atheists could not be more wrong. Plus, it's intellectually dishonest and insulting.

I used to believe in Santa Claus. I grew up and so I don't any more. Same thing with Christ.

[BillHoyt]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
http://img16.exs.cx/img16/1673/barc666.gif

Here you go!

Is it just me, or do 1inC's thread dissolve into silliness very quickly?
It smells like a Troll to me, Lisa. The arguments are so incredibly lame at the outset of each thread and then quickly dissolve into the silliness you pointed out. There's no depth of thinking here at all. It feels like some pimply-faced, oily-haired adolescent trying to see how much of our time he can waste.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by crimresearch
Anyone seriously attempting to engage him as though he were a Christian is just feeding the sock puppet *and* the troll.

People like that actually do exist, sad as it is. Arguments won't help, since he'll just scream "Satan" every time, and also since I sincerily doubt he understands most of them. So I agree that it's a waste of time, but I don't think he's either a troll or a sock puppet.

[crimresearch]

Originally posted by plindboe
People like that actually do exist, sad as it is. Arguments won't help, since he'll just scream "Satan" every time, and also since I sincerily doubt he understands most of them. So I agree that it's a waste of time, but I don't think he's either a troll or a sock puppet.

Christian fundamentalists who don't think that Jesus is their Savior are a new one on me...1inChrist is the first one I've run across, so I'll stick with the 'manufactured' hypothesis.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Isn't Lisa Simpson from that cartoon with yellow characters?

You mean anime? No, but your racism is not appreciated.




...









*cricket chirps*





"Yellow characters." Get it?

[Filip Sandor]

Originally posted by Dragonrock
Filip, That is quite the excellent avatar you have. Is there more to the painting?

Edited to add: TruthSeeker, I think Christ-par-1's threads are born derailed.

Hi TS,

By the way, sorry for not replying to your question any sooner I was out of town for a day. The picture I use for my avatar is actually the full image, but smaller.

Here is a high-res version if you want to take a closer look.. ;)

http://www.oddworldz.com/filipsandor/scraps/Temptation.jpg

[Stitch]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I can PROVE prophecies and Faith healing. Want me to?

Prophecies - Octobor 29th, 2004.

Faith healing - Find me someone on this message board who is ill and I will heal them in the name of Jesus. It works. A few months backed I healed someone on a Christian message board.

Please can you heal Christopher Reeve so that he can make another Superman film - thanks.

[The Cats Venm]

Originally posted by Stitch
Please can you heal Christopher Reeve so that he can make another Superman film - thanks.

I second that, especially since he's now dead.

[Lisa Simpson]

According to 1inC, you are cured, CV. How are you feeling? And I mean that with all sincerity.

[Flaherty]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I will heal them so all you sceptics can witness His power.

Kool. Can you have Jehovah drop off a dime bag by my house around 11?

[spejic]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am only repeating what The Holy Spirit tells me. If this is true, then why is The Holy Spirit so incapable of converting the people of this board to His way of thinking? It could be that The Holy Spirit is a poor debator, and incapable of creating an argument that convinces anyone. Otherwise, it means that no argument will work on the people that post here, and that The Holy Spirit was wrong to bring you here in the first place. Either way, it does not look good for the knowledge and power of said spirit.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
That I failed or God has His reasons for not healing them. I healed someone over the internet before and I believe I can heal these two also. I will heal them so all you sceptics can witness His power.

If you are serious, please submit an application first. You can find one here:
http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

Make sure you follow the directions THOROUGHLY or your claim will be ignored. Randi suggests that you conduct a proper double-blind test before you begin, and only continue to the million dollar challenge if those results support your claims. If you simply state that you can heal others over the internet, and do not provide any evidence from testing or any information on proper observance of the effects of your healing, your application will be denied.

If you are having trouble, we can help you design a scientifically valid double-blind procedure and help you with related issues if you get lost or stuck. It might even be a good idea to submit your results to us before Randi. It won't "prove" anything to us, but if there are any inherent flaws with your experiment, we are likely to notice them and prevent an even greater embarassment.

[The Cats Venm]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
According to 1inC, you are cured, CV. How are you feeling? And I mean that with all sincerity.

Well, the phantom pain is annoying and has been keeping me up a bit lately (the cut end of the collarbone is very sensitive), but other than that I'm not bad.

Luckily, they found the tumours in my lungs before I could feel them so they aren't painful. I'm still waiting for surgery (darn Canadian waiting lists), but when that finally happens I'll know what's going on for sure. There is a chance that one of the tumours is involved with the lung wall and will not be able to be removed (don't ask me for details on why that is, it's just what I've been told), but they won't know for sure until they look.

If I've been cured by God, then the next time i get an x-ray (before the surgery) nothing will show up. I won't know until then.

[kuroyume0161]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
I am just spreading the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice to the eternal Hellfire.

I had twenty years of having the GLORIOUS news of His Sacrfice spread on me like a jam... while tied to ignorance and waiting for the ants to consume me. After trying various demoninations of the One True Wordtm, I realized that they all conflicted, none answered life's real questions, and that seeing reality doesn't transmit for a person wearing blinders several inches thick (one Bible for each eye).

You spread the news all you want, but I've been there and definitely know much, much, much more on the subject than you could imagine. I've read the Bible, studied it, studied its history, studied the non-canonical texts, studied christianities growth, evolution, changes, seen the results of its use and influence - and I'm the lowliest of the knowledgeable in the field. Drawing and quartering me while crushing me with a 1-ton rock and poking my skin with ten thousand rusty needles wouldn't cause me to rebuke my escape from superstition and ignorance.

Robert

[Z]

Originally posted by kuroyume0161
Drawing and quartering me while crushing me with a 1-ton rock and poking my skin with ten thousand rusty needles wouldn't cause me to rebuke my escape from superstition and ignorance.

Robert [/B]

Wow, you really know how to have fun, don't ya Robert?

:D

[c4ts]

Some people are total masochists...

[Swishy McJackass]

Since this troll is healing people, I was just wondering if he could use his Christ-like powers to resurrect Ken Caminiti. The Astros are going to need him pretty soon...

[Marquis de Carabas]

Just heal Pettitte and Miller and we'll be fine.

[Gestahl]

Originally posted by c4ts


(In reference to Simpsons and racism)

"Yellow characters." Get it?

The most amusing thing is that when they portray characters of Asian descent, they are white ;-).

Edited to fix spelling.

[Temporal Renegade]

Hold on a second. I'm a little confused...

Originally posted by 1inChrist
This is a very critical error on your part. You are trying to imagine God in humanistic terms. You call Him Evil based on what you believe to be Evil. In reality, Evil is simply not harm or pain, it is rejecting your very Creator. You see if God does something Good (like punishing sinners for eternity) you interpretation is that He is Evil. You are wrong. Your simple human brain cannot comprehend the complex nature of our Creator.

He accuses Marquis de Carabas of thinking in 'humanistic' terms in dealing with God. Now, maybe I'm wrong (help me out if I am, please) but doesn't 'humanistic' sort of imply that he's imprinting human qualities and attributes on The Notorius G.O.D? Well, if that's the case, isn't 1inChrist doing the same thing? Saying 'Him' and referring to The Original Godster in somewhat human terms?

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by 1inChrist
Okay,

I cannot prove the Beast exists but just assume it for a moment. If the Beast and God existed, it perfectly explains everything we see in the world.


'Assume it'?!?!
The whole purpose of this thread was you dealing in absolutes, I'd gathered. You made it a point to state emphatically that you were right, and we were wrong, period, end of discussion. That you were so strong in your belief that nothing could possibly shake it.

And, now you're asking us to 'assume' what you say is true. Well, what about you 'assuming' that there isn't any God? Or Satan? How do you wrap your head around the assumption that everything really doesn't have a bearded guy on one end, and a guy with horns and a pitchfork on the other?

Assuming, to me, means that you're not all that sure on your convictions.