Homeopathy - Hahnemann was not the first.

[Deetee]

Recall the miracle of the loaves and fishes?

[Suezoled]

so was that copyright infringement?

[Rolfe]

Originally posted by Deetee
Recall the miracle of the loaves and fishes? That one's easier to explain than homoeopathy though! :D

Actually, I've heard it said that Hahnemann ripped off the idea from an Irish physician, but I don't know the details or if it's true or not. And I don't know whether the "idea" he ripped off was jusy like cures like, or all the shake 'n' dilute.

Rolfe.

[exarch]

To think that all this derived from one single observation: that a certain type of treebark that cures malaria also causes fever.

This is all homeopathy is based on. That single observation. Anything that came after that is seriously flawed conjecture on Hahnemann's part.

Think of how many other substances also cause a fever when ingested. Someone was bound to think there was a connection, but Hahnemann, he just ran with it without looking back. Stupid idiot :D

[Rolfe]

Originally posted by exarch
To think that all this derived from one single observation: that a certain type of treebark that cures malaria also causes fever.

This is all homeopathy is based on. That single observation. Anything that came after that is seriously flawed conjecture on Hahnemann's part.

Think of how many other substances also cause a fever when ingested. Someone was bound to think there was a connection, but Hahnemann, he just ran with it without looking back. Stupid idiot :D It's worse than that, Jim (http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/quinine/allergy.html).

Basically, cinchona bark doesn't cause fever in 99.99% of the population.

Rolfe.

[Diamond]

And Hahnemann didn't consider the counter-examples: aspirin for instance, does not cause a headache. Or the corollary: tapping very lightly on the head with a feather does not cause serious head trauma.

[exarch]

Originally posted by Rolfe
It's worse than that, Jim (http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/quinine/allergy.html).

Basically, cinchona bark doesn't cause fever in 99.99% of the population.:roll::roll::roll:
Hahahaha !!
:roll::roll::roll:

Homeopathy is entirely based on a faulty premise, and it's founder started with the most common error homeopaths constantly make, a single remarkable observation is turned into a general statement.

This link is priceless. It really sums up all that's wrong with homeopathy :roll:

[Zombified]

Originally posted by exarch
This link is priceless. It really sums up all that's wrong with homeopathy
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[Diamond]

Thanks to the advertising, you produce a good page debunking Hahnemann's original work and get four adverts for homeopathic non-remedies :rolleyes:

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Deetee
Recall the miracle of the loaves and fishes?

What is this? Anyway, I think homeopathy/homeopathic effects are with us since our first evolution.:)

In other forum it is mentioned:-

Aspirin started out a herbal remedy from white willow bark. Many drugs today have natural sources, its not unscientific to believe that many herbal remedies do have an effect. What unscientific is to believe a specific herbal remedied has certain effects when statistical studies say otherwise. Also the belief the herbal or natural form is better for you then the synthetic drug is usually erroneous. Lets take aspirin again: you would grind up white willow bark into powder and ingest it as a tea, as a result you would get much less aspirin then in the pill, you would also get all the other stuff in the bark such as aromatics and other toxins. Search here. (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=41204)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
What is this? Anyway, I think homeopathy/homeopathic effects are with us since our first evolution.:)

In other forum it is mentioned:-

"Aspirin started out a herbal remedy from white willow bark"

Hello, Kumar, is there anyone in? Just because homeopathy and herbalism both begin with "h" doesn't mean you can make a point about homeopathy by using herbalism as evidence.

[exarch]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Hello, Kumar, is there anyone in? Just because homeopathy and herbalism both begin with "h" doesn't mean you can make a point about homeopathy by using herbalism as evidence.Yes, I think Kumar is unable to see how he's making our point for us :D

Unless he's trying to bring back the claim that homeopathy is "all natural" because everything in it can be found in nature. I guess that means that homeopathic "Berlin Wall" remedies are a bit of a paradox there?

Oh, bird sh*t is natural, and so is snake venom, but if I needed to take anything derived from those two, I think I would prefer their purified or synthesized forms to the real thing, thank you very much ...

[Kumar]

For all our activities, chanting mantras, holy dips in river, sea etc, worshiping ideals, morning/evening walks, walks, jogging, excercising, chewing food, water splasing on mouth, gargle. thinking,worshiping,sprituals...mean every or most of our activities can be alike somewhat homeopathic effect--so it would had existed since our evolution.

[Zombified]

Say, Kumar, when Darth Vader threw the evil Galactic Emperor off the balcony into the pit on the second Death Star, how did that relate to homeopathy?

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Zombified
Say, Kumar, when Darth Vader threw the evil Galactic Emperor off the balcony into the pit on the second Death Star, how did that relate to homeopathy?

Probably- due to some bio-chemical effects/ changes, effect in Darth Vader or any defect in bio-chemical of Galactic Emperor initiated Darth Vader to do so OR their chemistry didn't matched--you know insects,pests,microbes,reptiles.....may bite to some people only inspite so many people are similarily exposed to those at same time.:) Moreover,

"Every existance, living or non-livings may have some bio-chemical/chemical reasoning of interactions with others, mostly inorganic-- to behave particularly/ specifically/differantly & accordingly as represented by 'ITS CHOICE'"

[Deetee]

Kumar-
shouldn't you confine all your posts to the humour section?

[Kumar]

There can be BIG differance in tasting & effecting. You may like taste but your body may not like its effects--esp. when you are sick. I mean: look the effects while tasting.