Scott Frank

[Beleth]

According to KRAMER, Mr, Frank's application reads as follows (emphasis mine):

I wish to demonstrate "mind reading" by reading a closed box for the contents inside. Please if you can arrange:

1- Quiet room, well lit but not bright or distracting.

2- a uncrowded orderly atmosphere, probly with only several persons (to aid concentration and limit too many signals)

3- one box (or more, but I will need only one box and one object)

4- a common object(s) put theirin.

I would also ask that the same person I will be tested by, be the same person to put the object(s) in the box.

I will ask this person "what is in the box" by getting that person to "think" of it's content.

I will then use my mind reading powers to "see" what's in the box.

1) Is he demonstrating mind-reading, or remote vision? It sounds like he is using RV trappings to try to distract from the fact that he's attempting mind-reading.

2) I'm sure you have already thought of this, but... if you agree to the request I have italicized (which is a reasonable request for a demonstration of mind-reading but not for RV), make very sure that the tester/object-placer can't be seen or heard by Mr. Frank.

[steenkh]

Originally posted by Beleth

2) I'm sure you have already thought of this, but... if you agree to the request I have italicized (which is a reasonable request for a demonstration of mind-reading but not for RV), make very sure that the tester/object-placer can't be seen or heard by Mr. Frank.
But Mr. Frank's claim clearly states that 'I will ask this person "what is in the box" ', which means that the tester must be in the room and there are no chances of double-blind testing. I would make sure that no other communication is allowed. The tester may not answer any questions, and mr. Frank should not be allowed to ask any further questions. In order to avoid any kind of judging, he must probably be given a list of the objects in advance, but it should be a long list with no possible overlaps (like having both a torchlight and a lamp on the list).

And, BTW, Mr. Frank starts by saying he demonstrate "mind reading", so there is no pretense of remote viewing here.

[Hellbound]

One way to possibly make it double-blind...

Ask Mr. Frank if he has to see his target for his mind-reading. If not,t ehn the person whose mind is being read could be placed behind a screen or curtain or similar. For another layer, they could be in the next room, and the tester could pass on the question ("What's in the box") to get the "thinking" process started.

I believe Mr. Frank will claim to need visual contact, though. But, it's a thought :)

[Beleth]

Originally posted by steenkh
But Mr. Frank's claim clearly states that 'I will ask this person "what is in the box" ', which means that the tester must be in the room and there are no chances of double-blind testing.I think you're taking that out of context. The full quote isI will ask this person "what is in the box" by getting that person to "think" of it's content.He is using quotation marks in that sentence, in both instances, to indicate that he is using an analogy, not as actual verbatim quotes. I would have put the quotes around the word "ask" instead of around "what is in the box", but the meaning is the same.

And, BTW, Mr. Frank starts by saying he demonstrate "mind reading", so there is no pretense of remote viewing here. He says that, yes, but the experiment still has all the trappings of an RV experiment.