Who will replace Bill O'Reilly? [Archive]

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by corplinx
Once Bill O'Reilly is sh*tcanned, its opens up the best hour of primetime on the most watched cable news network.

Who would you like Ailes and company to fill the gap with once Bill O'Reilly resigns in disgrace?

I don't think he'll be fired unless his ratings drastically, and over a long term, decline. Will that happen? I don't know because I can't really understand why anybody watches him now. I find him a blowhard, and an uninteresting one at that.

If he is replaced, I'd like to see something along the lines of Gretta Von Whatshername take that earlier spot.

pgwenthold

14th October 2004, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
I don't think he'll be fired unless his ratings drastically, and over a long term, decline. Will that happen? I don't know because I can't really understand why anybody watches him now. I find him a blowhard, and an uninteresting one at that.

If he is replaced, I'd like to see something along the lines of Gretta Von Whatshername take that earlier spot.

But I am assuming the Scott Peterson case will be over by then, at which point she will have nothing to talk about.

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by shecky
Did I miss sonething? What happened to O'Reilly?

Sexual Harrassment suit, and probably a justifiable one, if not a justified one, at that.

pgwenthold

14th October 2004, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
Sexual Harrassment suit, and probably a justifiable one, if not a justified one, at that.

I haven't read any of the stories (aside from the titles) but is OReilly claiming that none of it happened or is he using the "it was consensual conversation" defense?

Nie Trink Wasser

14th October 2004, 08:34 AM

ann coulter please

seriously I think this whole sexual harrassment thing is just a pr strategy to get liberals to like him more.

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by pgwenthold
But I am assuming the Scott Peterson case will be over by then, at which point she will have nothing to talk about.

Gretta's smart and, while a bit too liberal for my taste, fair as well. She knows how to cut through rhetoric better than most any of the interviewers, with the possible exception of that big headed guy, Neil whatshisname (no relation to Gretta :) )

HarryKeogh

14th October 2004, 08:36 AM

is O'Reilly married?

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
ann coulter please

seriously I think this whole sexual harrassment thing is just a pr strategy to get liberals to like him more.

Ann wouldn't last a month (her message is both bland and spin-driven) but I'd really like to see her and Gretta mud wrestle. Winner takes the 8:00 spot.

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
is O'Reilly married?

Past tense may be necessary soon, but yes.

pgwenthold

14th October 2004, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
Gretta's smart and, while a bit too liberal for my taste, fair as well. She knows how to cut through rhetoric better than most any of the interviewers, with the possible exception of that big headed guy, Neil whatshisname (no relation to Gretta :) )

Does she know how to do anything but sensational trials? That's all I've ever seen her talk about. When she tries to talk about anything else, it is a complete bore.

Besides, I find her to be most unattractive. Not Ann Coulter ugly, but her face is just bizarre.

I think they should completely switch gears and get someone like Rachael Ray from the Food Network or Samantha Brown from the Travel Channel. Now that would be fun.

shecky

14th October 2004, 08:42 AM

Wow. How'd I miss this story?

Eww... those details are kinda ikky.

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by pgwenthold
Does she know how to do anything but sensational trials? That's all I've ever seen her talk about. When she tries to talk about anything else, it is a complete bore.

Besides, I find her to be most unattractive. Not Ann Coulter ugly, but her face is just bizarre.

I think they should completely switch gears and get someone like Rachael Ray from the Food Network or Samantha Brown from the Travel Channel. Now that would be fun.

Rachael Ray. That's the ticket. It took me a while to warm up to her. At first I thought she was just scary-insane. Yea, I'd like to see Ann and Rachael mud wrestle. Or Rachael and Samantha.

Either's good.

corplinx

14th October 2004, 08:52 AM

The worst thing that could happen:
The Sean Hannity Factor

When I have been able to stomach H&C it was because of Alan Colmes.

BPSCG

14th October 2004, 08:52 AM

Hire Jim Lehrer away from PBS for some jawdropping salary, then laugh all the way to the bank while the lefites foam at the mouth trying to claim Fox still isn't "fair and balanced."

Regarding Coulter: Much as I love her, never. She's not an interviewer; she's an interviewee.

Just thinking

14th October 2004, 08:59 AM

Hello Rob (and a few others),

You seem to know quite a bit about what's going on in O'Reilley's personal involvements (from some of the posted comments) ... perhaps you can clue us all in on this recent legal case as well as his relations with his family. Then you can forcast with precision paranormal certainty as to the outcomes from all of the above.

Thank you.

OK -- it's a joke -- but let's be objective here; none of us know what's really going on.

HarryKeogh

14th October 2004, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by BPSCG
Hire Jim Lehrer away from PBS for some jawdropping salary, then laugh all the way to the bank while the lefites foam at the mouth trying to claim Fox still isn't "fair and balanced.". [/B]

But Fox would never hire a Lehrer to fill that slot because they aren't "fair and balanced" (not that any other news organizations are either, you won't see PBS or NPR hiring Ann Coulter)

There is no spoon and there is no such thing as "no spin"

Unless there is some tape recordings that are very graphic I think O'Reilly will be keeping his job, he's a cash cow for that network.

corplinx

14th October 2004, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
But Fox would never hire a Lehrer to fill that slot because they aren't "fair and balanced" (not that any other news organizations are either, you won't see PBS or NPR hiring Ann Coulter)

There is no spoon and there is no such thing as "no spin"

Unless there is some tape recordings that are very graphic I think O'Reilly will be keeping his job, he's a cash cow for that network.

On stern this morning they said there were recordings. Of course, its stern we are talking about. He's been dedication an hour each day to propaganda for a good while in his attempt to get back at Bush for the FCC fiasco.

punchdrunk

14th October 2004, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by corplinx
On stern this morning they said there were recordings. Of course, its stern we are talking about. He's been dedication an hour each day to propaganda for a good while in his attempt to get back at Bush for the FCC fiasco.

You can find the legal papers with all the steamy details on www.thesmokinggun.com . It appears, with the detailed conversations in the lawsuit, that at least some of it is on a recording.

BPSCG

14th October 2004, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
But Fox would never hire a Lehrer to fill that slot because they aren't "fair and balanced" (not that any other news organizations are either, you won't see PBS or NPR hiring Ann Coulter)Stranger things have happened. What red-blooded Red Sox fan could have imagined that their pride and joy, Roger Clemens, would someday pitch for the hated Yankees? Where there's money, there's a way.
Unless there is some tape recordings that are very graphic I think O'Reilly will be keeping his job, he's a cash cow for that network. Agree. Bob Barker is still shilling The Price is Right ten years after his sexual harrassment suit.

But it's fun to speculate.

Suddenly

14th October 2004, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by BPSCG
Stranger things have happened. What red-blooded Red Sox fan could have imagined that their pride and joy, Roger Clemens, would someday pitch for the hated Yankees? Where there's money, there's a way.

Problem is that if Lehrer did his show the same as the PBS show, liberals would be just as likely to watch the show and see FOX is a different light. If he suddenly became a right wing sock-puppet this would become obvious and for the most part liberals wouldn't care, except to shake their collective heads over what a whore Lehrer turned out to be...

Just like what most Sox fans think of Clemens... Although that has more to do with Clemens being out of shape and stinking up the joint his last few years in Boston, then once he signed with Toronto for more dough he remembered what a sit-up is and laid off the doughnuts and made a huge comeback...

Rob Lister

14th October 2004, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Just thinking
Hello Rob (and a few others),

You seem to know quite a bit about what's going on in O'Reilley's personal involvements (from some of the posted comments) ... perhaps you can clue us all in on this recent legal case as well as his relations with his family. Then you can forcast with precision paranormal certainty as to the outcomes from all of the above.

Thank you.

OK -- it's a joke -- but let's be objective here; none of us know what's really going on.

Well, let's see.

I've read the original complaint, made public by the first party.

I've read the countersuit, made public by the second party.

Based upon this, I formed a working opinion. I've expressed that opinion, and phrased it as such.

If either party brings more data to light, or if you have something to add that is factual or logical, I'll read it with interest and possibly alter my opinion.

I don't see how I could be anymore objective.

zakur

14th October 2004, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by pgwenthold
Besides, I find her to be most unattractive. Not Ann Coulter ugly, but her face is just bizarre. Yes, even after her face lift. And she talks out of just one side of her mouth.

headscratcher4

14th October 2004, 09:59 AM

And she talks out of just one side of her mouth.

When all you've got is half-truth, you only need one side....

hgc

14th October 2004, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by pgwenthold
...
I think they should completely switch gears and get someone like Rachael Ray from the Food Network ... Now that's funny! She's a damn good TV chef, and I'd love to find out how her cute-and-perky-on-hyperdrive personna would work within the Fox News lineup.

BPSCG

14th October 2004, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by zakur
Yes, even after her face lift. And she talks out of just one side of her mouth. She did that before the surgery. I've never much cared for her, but she won my grudging respect during Marion ("He's Back Again, Like a Bounced Check") Barry's cocaine bust trial. While everyone, myself included, was saying what a slam-dunk this trial was - they had the man on tape with a coke pipe, fer petesake! - Greta, who was the local CBS affiliate's legal expert at the time, kept saying this case was really pretty shakey.

And lo and behold, Mayor Cokehead got off! Everyone in DC was stunned and dismayed, or stunned and delighted. Except for Greta.

phildonnia

14th October 2004, 10:37 AM

Yeah, eww. I'll just picture Bill O'reilly in the shower next time I need to, um, set the flame on 'simmer'.

Just thinking

14th October 2004, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
If either party brings more data to light, or if you have something to add that is factual or logical, I'll read it with interest and possibly alter my opinion. I don't see how I could be anymore objective.

Well, I read what I could find on the internet and really couldn't get too many details --- can you please direct me to the info you have come across ?? (Actually it looks more like a disgruntled employee, but that's simply an opinion.)

Also, how do you know how his wife will react --- assuming the accusations are true and accurate? Look at Bill Clinton's wife after what happened to him --- they're still legally married, no?

thaiboxerken

14th October 2004, 06:51 PM

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html

I'm biased, so maybe that's why I believe the case against O'Reilly is just.

thrombus29

14th October 2004, 07:13 PM

shecky

14th October 2004, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by thrombus29

Warning NSFW
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris16.html

re: last paragraph on the page:
http://www.falaphilia.com/

Just thinking

15th October 2004, 12:58 PM

Thanks Thrombus29,

If anyone believes more than 1% of that allegation (and then doubts Uri) I would be most surprised. That piece (from page 1) is obviously spiced up by her legal team to the 9s, and it reads like some trash romance novel -- and remember, that's only her story, nothing from the other half. I'll wait and see what comes from the legal outcome before I start casting huge boulders. I am also interested in the "taped" phone calls as released from the courts.

Rob Lister

15th October 2004, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Just thinking
Well, I read what I could find on the internet and really couldn't get too many details --- can you please direct me to the info you have come across ?? (Actually it looks more like a disgruntled employee, but that's simply an opinion.)

Also, how do you know how his wife will react --- assuming the accusations are true and accurate? Look at Bill Clinton's wife after what happened to him --- they're still legally married, no?

Last first: I don't know how his wife will react. I know how MY wife would react.

First last: It appears you've been informed. Please note that in his suit against her he did not, in any way, deny the allegations. He even went so far as to off-handedly imply that she recorded conversations. He's pissed that she wants 64m.

If you think it appears to be an attempt to discredit/extort: I agree.

If you think it appears as if she set him up: I agree.

If you think the allegations are groundless: I disagree.

TragicMonkey

15th October 2004, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
If you think it appears to be an attempt to discredit/extort: I agree.

If you think it appears as if she set him up: I agree.

If you think the allegations are groundless: I disagree.

Remind anyone of Michael Jackson's case? My own opinion is that the same thing's going on here: an extortion attempt for hush money over a committed misdeed backfires.

Rob Lister

15th October 2004, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Remind anyone of Michael Jackson's case? My own opinion is that the same thing's going on here: an extortion attempt for hush money over a committed misdeed backfires.

I think it's a little like that. We'll see if it backfires.

B.O'R did handle it well, though. He went on the offensive.

Oddly (although not oddly at all) he had to enter the high-velocity spin zone to do it.

phildonnia

15th October 2004, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Just thinking
...
Also, how do you know how his wife will react --- assuming the accusations are true and accurate? Look at Bill Clinton's wife after what happened to him --- they're still legally married, no?

Kobe Bryant's wife got a $9M diamond, Hillary got to remain married to the president of the US.

(Cue Music)
Stand by your man...

Rob Lister

15th October 2004, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by phildonnia
(Cue Music)

D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

If I can't get your country music song out of my head, I see no reason why you can't get mine out of yours.

earworms rule.

phildonnia

15th October 2004, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

If I can't get your country music song out of my head, I see no reason why you can't get mine out of yours.

earworms rule.

Ha! I don't know your song! I win! Argument from Ignorance!!

Fade

15th October 2004, 06:25 PM

Hire Jim Lehrer away from PBS for some jawdropping salary, then laugh all the way to the bank while the lefites foam at the mouth trying to claim Fox still isn't "fair and balanced."

If Fox started hiring more Liberals, it might become fair and balanced. Your snide remark doesn't make any sense.

Just thinking

15th October 2004, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Rob Lister
Last first: I don't know how his wife will react. I know how MY wife would react.

Given that the allegations are all correct, I assume. I'm sure you're wife would be upstanding enough to be fair before any rash decisions.

First last: It appears you've been informed. Please note that in his suit against her he did not, in any way, deny the allegations. He even went so far as to off-handedly imply that she recorded conversations. He's pissed that she wants 64m.

Yes, that would be my first reaction too -- but isn't it funny how these things always seem to go where the money is? (When's the last time you came across this sort of stuff aimed at a cameraman?) And it's not up to Mr. O' to prove his innocense, she must prove her case. (Maybe she can, maybe she can't, but I'm not going to go and assume who's right and who's wrong with only one side's information.)

If you think it appears to be an attempt to discredit/extort: I agree.

If you think it appears as if she set him up: I agree.

If you think the allegations are groundless: I disagree.

I'll reserve judgement until it appears that both sides have had a fair say. If he's as guilty as it states in the allegations, then he should be punished -- but if not, then she should be liable for damages. And if she did "set him up", then all bets are off as that can have the case dismissed. What should be interesting is if other women come forward with similar situations; if none do, that may say quite a bit regarding this allegation.

Dorian Gray

15th October 2004, 11:16 PM

Does anyone else notice the similarities in the reactions from O'Reilly getting accused and Limbaugh getting accused?

Rush says the accusations are political
Bill says the accusations are political

Rush says it's an attempt to smear and discredit him
Bill says it's an attempt to smear and discredit him

Rush admits having a drug problem and enters rehab for 5 weeks
Bill tells his accuser to shut up

Oh, wait a minute.....