Chromotherapy

[geni]

Does any one know any decent skeptical websites/pages on colour therapy. There are a few passing mentions but thats about all I've been able to find.

[popsy]

What is color therapy supposed to do?

[geni]

Originally posted by popsy
What is color therapy supposed to do?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromotherapy

Not the wikipedia best article I will do something about it when I get the time.

[Kumar]

May these links help?

http://www.colourtherapyhealing.com/colour/

http://colour-therapy.co.nz/index.html

http://healing.about.com/cs/colortherapy/a/aa_colortherapy.htm

http://www.ifct.net/

Colour Therapy works by matching the frequency wavelength of a colour to that of a disease, virus or infection. Patients can spend days connected with a bracelet and wire to a coloured tabulation, which in time neutralises the disease. It’s basically works like a radio, you have to match the radio signal frequency with the tuner to work, and it’s the same with Colour Therapy, you must match the colour frequency with the disease.


Sun-Rays healing or Solar Meditions are related to it.:)

[popsy]

Are you SERIOUS?

[Suezoled]

What if the person giving you the bracelet is color blind?

[Kumar]

http://www.colormatters.com/factoid.html
Does color affect taste / What do colors taste like
Color and Food Matters (http://www.colormatters.com/appmatters.html)
Does colr effect taste (http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/coltaste.html)

Let me try here.

What makes differant colours, scientifically or in quantum science?

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar

What makes differant colours, scientifically or in quantum science?

No, you tell us. You've been at this Googling as an alternative to learning game for a while, time to show you can answer an easy question like this for yourself.

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
No, you tell us. You've been at this Googling as an alternative to learning game for a while, time to show you can answer an easy question like this for yourself.

I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths, to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation. However, I am not technical

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths, to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation. However, I am not technical

Well, you're wrong. Try again.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Well, you're wrong. Try again.

No, he's right. He's not technical.

[Mercutio]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Well, you're wrong. Try again. LOL....there was even a nice thread here not too long ago about color perception...oh, but that one was a little technical...

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Well, you're wrong. Try again. Differant substances made by the process I mentioned, absorb any one color & reflect all others so look like that color.
What causes different colors in flames? (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae569.cfm)
The same idea explains not only color in flames, but all the colors we see.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
Differant substances made by the process I mentioned, absorb any one color & reflect all others so look like that color.
What causes different colors in flames? (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae569.cfm)

Good old Google.

Now in your own words, explain the following quote in terms that are consistent with your Gooogle find.

Originally posted by Kumar
I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths, to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation[/URL]

In particular, what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar?

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Good old Google.

Now in your own words, explain the following quote in terms that are consistent with your Gooogle find.



In particular, what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar? I assume BSM, Zep's photons are same or now same. Are you same or now become similar?

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
I assume BSM, Zep's photons are same or now same. Are you same or now become similar?

Gibberish again.

What colour is an atom of cooper?

[Kumar]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Good old Google.

To explain in your language, time, one finger typing. Any problem. Doctor's selection/decision of any medicine but not making/researching it--do not mean he is not a doctor.

Now in your own words, explain the following quote in terms that are consistent with your Gooogle find.
In particular, what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar?

Copper color. :D You can furthur read the link because you desired in my own words.;)

In other's words:-
Here is a brief description of copper.

Colour: copper, metallic

Copper is reddish with a bright metallic lustre.

Interesting to play:-


Chemistry of Firework Colors (http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701a.htm)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Now in your own words, explain the following quote in terms that are consistent with your Gooogle find.
In particular, what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar?

Copper color. :D You can furthur read the link because you desired in my own words.;)

In other's words:-
Here is a brief description of copper.

Colour: copper, metallic

Copper is reddish with a bright metallic lustre.

Interesting to play:-


Chemistry of Firework Colors (http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701a.htm)

That's not what I asked. The question is, what is the colour of a copper atom?

Edited to add: Nearly forgot. The opening part of the question was;

What is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)?

[American]

Not seeing your ugly faces is one therapy that works.

[Kumar]

BSM,

Where 'What is Kumar' lost?

[Donks]

Kumar: Check the Flame War forum.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
BSM,

Where 'What is Kumar' lost?

Kumar

Where are the answers about the wavelengths of substances and the colour of an atom?

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Kumar

Where are the answers about the wavelengths of substances and the colour of an atom?

BSM,

http://ethel.as.arizona.edu/~collins/astro/subjects/img/emspecsmall.gif

Do molecules have colours? What about electrons, protons and neutrons? (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae334.cfm)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar

Do molecules have colours? What about electrons, protons and neutrons? (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae334.cfm)

Still not answered properly.

what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar?

You brought up the notion of substances having a wavelength, you need to justify it.

You still haven't explained in your own words what the colour of a single atom is.

You started by saying this;

" I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths, to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation"

Are you saying that the link I have included here agrees with your statement?

[Kumar]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Still not answered properly.

[b]what is the wavelength of a substance (in the context of colour of e-m radiation)? What colour is an atom of copper, Kumar?

Wave length is of photons/energy acc. the colour as per picture. Whatever colour a substance absorb is the color of that substance as visible to us. Still it may be possible that it is whatever looked to us or in our vision's sense.

You brought up the notion of substances having a wavelength, you need to justify it.

Radiations, photons have wavelength. Although these can also be said as substance. I furthur think that all material substances are made from prime energy--so even these should also have some kind of waves & wavelength-- some define it as "aura".

You still haven't explained in your own words what the colour of a single atom is.

as above.

You started by saying this;

" I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths, to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation"

Although it can also be true in logic as it is but I just re-phrase what I meant:-

"I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with [its] atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances change/s[d] [in attracting, absorbing & reflecting differant wavelenths/rays] to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation" [in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with [its] atoms/molecules/electrons].


Are you saying that the link I have included here agrees with your statement?

As above.

Hope this will help.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar
Wave length is of photons/energy acc. the colour as per picture. Whatever colour a substance absorb is the color of that substance as visible to us.

Wrong answer, but right idea. The colour is from the wavelength of the light reflected/re-emitted not absorbed.



Radiations, photons have wavelength. Although these can also be said as substance. I furthur think that all material substances are made from prime energy--so even these should also have some kind of waves & wavelength-- some define it as "aura".


No, you're just making stuff up again.



"I think, degradation/deformation in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with [its] atoms/molecules/electrons--may make differant substances change/s[d] [in attracting, absorbing & reflecting differant wavelenths/rays] to look differantly. It may be just by photodegradation" [in quantum form of any substance by interaction of photons with [its] atoms/molecules/electrons].



It's still gibberish.

[Zombified]

You know, now that you can get LEDs across the whole spectrum I thought it would be neat to make an LED lamp that you can fully control the hue and saturation on, since I'm a bit of electronics hobbyist. One could design a circuit to cycle through a range of colors, or even provide USB control. (These are actually not that hard.)

If I would get off my butt, I could be selling these gadgets for hundreds of dollars of profit to silly people...

I'm sure somebody's already beaten me to it.

[Kumar]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Wrong answer, but right idea. The colour is from the wavelength of the light reflected/re-emitted not absorbed.


"color is a visual attribute of things that results from the light they emit or transmit or reflect"

I am too old to give school tests now & so just remember the idea-rest is to be refreshed. I just thought here equal & opposite reaction'. Btw, what does it mean here 'trasmit'?

[flume]

Originally posted by Kumar: "color is a visual attribute of things that results from the light they emit or transmit or reflect" Btw, what does it mean here 'trasmit'? They are talking about light that passes through transparent materials. If you had a piece of green glass with light behind it, you'd see the green light which had been able to pass through it. The light of other wavelengths would have been absorbed by molecules in the glass. (Maybe someone else can give an answer with more detail.)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Originally posted by Kumar

I am too old to give school tests now & so just remember the idea-rest is to be refreshed. I just thought here equal & opposite reaction'.

Kumar,

Either you want to learn something or you don't. If you want to learn then you need to be made to think. If you don't want to learn then stop wasting our time.

We have had to pursue this concept because you said;

"may make differant substances changes in their wavelengths"

You have finally got somewhere near a correct notion of what colour is (though the idea of reflecting incident light ignores other forms of e-m emission like blackbody radiation), but the BIG POINT is that substances do not, of themselves have a colour, they do not of themselves have a characteristic e-m wavelength. If you illuminate an atom with photons that do not match any of its available energy level transitions it will not absorb or re-emit anything by that process. (See *** below) The wavelength of blackbody radiation (radiation emitted because of heat) has to be defined in terms of the temperature at the time under consideration. It is meaningless to say that a substances have something that can be described as "their wavelengths".

People reading this may be thinking that Kumar has simply expressed himself poorly in these ideas, but that is not the case. He has said what he meant. This whole idea of "colour" in the context of chromotherapy is another example of an essentially magical property of matter like the thing he has called "Primal Energy" in another thread. The typical woo loves to wave about real science words divorced of their real science meaning (ah, I see another possible Sig Line ;) )

Now, either make this conceptual leap or give up, but stop pushing your fantasy ideas. It is you who needs to learn and acceot answers when they are given to you by peope who do know what they are talking about.

*** Edited to add: I've just realised that you have not recognised an implicit assumption that is made when talking about the "colour" of an object in casual everyday language. It is assumed you are describing its colour when illuminated by white light. That is why we can all agree to describe a London bus as red. If however that bus was only ever seen under blue illumination you would define its colour differently. Equally, species that have different colour sensitivities would not agree with our descriptions. A bee can see U-V and sees a world in a different set of colours to us, but it's the same world.

Is your colured bangle going to make a bee better when it disagrees with you about the relevant colour?

[Kumar]

Originally posted by flume
They are talking about light that passes through transparent materials. If you had a piece of green glass with light behind it, you'd see the green light which had been able to pass through it. The light of other wavelengths would have been absorbed by molecules in the glass. (Maybe someone else can give an answer with more detail.)

Hello flume, BSM

"color is a visual attribute of things that results from the light they emit or transmit or reflect"


How three words/concepts are used to present colour effect--emit, reflect or transmit? Will the emitted, reflected & transmitted light have wavelength or not?

[Donks]

Originally posted by Kumar
How three words/concepts are used to present colour effect--emit, reflect or transmit? Will the emitted, reflected & transmitted light have wavelength or not?

What do you think they mean by emit, reflect and transmit?

Photons have a wavelength. Light can have one or many wavelengths. White light, for instance, is light of all wavelengths of the visible spectrum mixed together.

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Donks
What do you think they mean by emit, reflect and transmit?

Photons have a wavelength. Light can have one or many wavelengths. White light, for instance, is light of all wavelengths of the visible spectrum mixed together.

Sorry, it does not awnser my question.

[steenkh]

Originally posted by Donks

Photons have a wavelength. Light can have one or many wavelengths. White light, for instance, is light of all wavelengths of the visible spectrum mixed together.
I have a question on this:

Can one photon have more than one wavelength? I.e. can white light be emitted with just one photon?

[Benguin]

Originally posted by Kumar
Sorry, it does not awnser my question.

It does. You just did not understand your question. Please for the sake of BSM's sanity trry to read up on the basics befiore mangling advanced theories.

If you find it interesting, why not go and do a catch up course in high school physics somewhere? I'm sure your state provides these for free, or at least only a few dollars.

[Kumar]

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey
Kumar,

Either you want to learn something or you don't. If you want to learn then you need to be made to think.

Yes, This is the art of getting & learning to made teachers to think by expressing poorly. Otherwise, why/how he will teach. Moreover. it become impractical for me to "refresh or write seriously" when intentions & interactions become poor & severe. I just go casually till intentions & interactions are clear & proper.

[flume]

Originally posted by Kumar: How three words/concepts are used to present colour effect--emit, reflect or transmit? Will the emitted, reflected & transmitted light have wavelength or not?

You look at an object. You see it because of light which has come from the object to your eyes. Where did this light come from? Either it reflected to your eyes from the surface of the object, it came to your eyes THROUGH the object (transmitted) or it originated in the object: emitted. It is very logical.
The wavelengths of light coming from the object to your eyes will depend on the sources of light going to the object or through the object (like the room light) and the effect of the object on that incoming light (what wavelengths it absorbs), and for emiitted light it depends on what wavelength(s) are emitted. These photons go to your eyes, but then there's another layer of complication because your perception of color depends on how those photons interact with the structures in your eyes and are processed by your brain.
(Physics is not my field though.)

[Kumar]

Let me make it more clear:-

"color is a visual attribute of things that results from the light they emit or transmit or reflect"

It was said that wavelenth reflected or not absorbed is the colour of any substance. How then emission & transmission of any wavelength can be same as wavelength reflected?