Jack T. Chick on music history...

[c4ts]

Enjoy...
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0034/0034_01.asp

Now where can I get some anti-religious punk rock to listen to while I read this? I need to see what happens when I have the extreme right in my eyes and the extreme left in my ears!

[Marquis de Carabas]

Was that Hugh Beaumont as Lew Siffer?

[c4ts]

I thought he looked kind of like Agent Smith...

[Operaider]

Originally posted by c4ts
Now where can I get some anti-religious punk rock to listen to while I read this? I need to see what happens when I have the extreme right in my eyes and the extreme left in my ears! American Jesus from Bad Religion

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Operaider
American Jesus from Bad Religion

Congratulations, you've found the one and only punk band I listen to, and a song on the one album of theirs I have. But I don't have my CD's with me and I don't get back home until next break.

Got any more?

[Operaider]

hmm... that's a favorite of mine.

need to think for a while.

Cree.. nope

[Operaider]

Any Marilyn Manson?

[c4ts]

They built the American Jesus up in Daytona somewhere right off the interstate, if the hurricanes haven't left him in ruin by now. I think he was made of fiberglass.

[Operaider]

Marilyn Manson from Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)

Disposable Teens

And I’m a black rainbow
And I’m an ape of god
I got a face that’s made for violence upon
I’m a teen distortion
Survived abortion
A rebel from the waist down

I wanna thank you mom
I wanna thank you dad
For bringing this f@&#ing world
To a bitter end
I never really hated a one true god
But the God of the people I hated

You said you wanted evolution
The ape was a great big hit
You say you want a revolution, man
And I say that you’re full of s$&#

We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable
We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable teens
We’re disposable

You said you wanted evolution
The ape was a great big hit
You say you want a revolution, man
I say that you’re full of s@$%

The more that you fear us
The bigger we get
The more that you fear us
The bigger we get
And don’t be surprised, don’t be surprised
Don’t be surprised when we destroy all of it

I thought the last lyric was "And don't be surprised when we discover it"

[c4ts]

Now when I read the tract, arrrrgh! Head explode! Too much is contradict! Why they agree on hate America???

[Operaider]

I don't know if this is a anti religious song, or an anti polics song that uses religious symbolism

Tool - Eulogy

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren't afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don't cry.
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We'll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We'll miss him.

No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.

So loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice so strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you f$%&ing lie.

Don't you step out of line.
Don't you f$&%ing lie.

You've claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy?

You had alot to say.
You had alot of nothing to say.

Come down.
Get off your f#$%ing cross.
We need the f@%&ing space to nail the next fool martyr.

To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For your sins and your lies. [sic]
Goodbye...

[Marquis de Carabas]

If you're going to mention Tool, you have to go with Opiate.

I don't feel like googling up the lyrics to C&P or typing them all, so I'll just hit the highlights...

My God's will
becomes me.
When he speaks,
he speaks through me.
He has needs
like I do.
We both want
to rape you.

[Operaider]

Can't go wrong with any tool song

[Yaotl]

I hope that guy saved all the money he made from Satan and such. That would be a great deal. You could sign the contract, get everything you wanted, and then repent and start all over again with the dosh you already made.

And since you've mentioned Tool, how about APC - Judith?

[c4ts]

I think he would get to keep his salary as a miracle preacher.

[Cosmo]

Dream Theater, from the Train of Thought album:

In The Name Of God

How could this be?
Why is he the chosen one?
Saint gone astray
With a scepter and a gun

Learn to believe
In the mighty and the strong
Come bleed the beast
Follow me it won't be long

Listen when the prophet
Speaks to you
Killing in the name of God

Passion
Twisting faith into violence
In the name of God

Straight is the path
Leading to your salvation
Slaying the weak
Ethnic elimination

Any day we'll all be
Swept away
You'll be saved
As long as you obey

Lies
Tools of the devil inside
Written in Holy disguise
Meant to deceive and divide
Us all

Listen when the prophet
Speaks to you
Killing in the name of God

Passion
Twisting faith into violence
In the name of God

Blurring the lines
Between virtue and sin
They can't tell
Where God ends
And mankind begins

They know no other
Life but this
From the cradle
They are claimed

Listen when the prophet
Speaks to you
Killing in the name of God

Passion
Twisting faith into violence
In the name of God
Hundreds of believers
Lured into a doomsday cult

All would perish
In the name of God

Self-proclaimed messiah
Led his servants
To their death
Eighty murdered
In the name of God

Forty sons and daughters
Un-consenting plural wives
Perversions
In the name of God

Underground religion
Turning toward
The mainstream light
Blind devotion
In the name of God

Justifying violence
Citing from the Holy Book
Teaching hatred
In the name of God

Listen when the prophet
Speaks to you
Killing in the name of God

Passion
Twisting faith into violence
In the name of God

Religious beliefs
Fanatic obsession
Does following faith
Lead us to violence?

Unyielding crusade
Divine revelation
Does following faith
Lead us to violence?

[c4ts]

Anyway, here's my favorite part of the tract:

Lew Siffer: Those stupid little jerks have no idea what I've got planned for them.
(next panel)
Lyrics: We're gonna rock, rock, rock, ROCK with the ROCK!

And the funniest part is the audience loves them. I guess the devil's plans backfired that time.

[TragicMonkey]

I'm confused. Satan thinks gay marriage is going too far? Weird.

eta: If Satan's able to "give" people AIDS, does that mean he's HIV positive? How did that happen?

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by TragicMonkey

eta: If Satan's able to "give" people AIDS, does that mean he's HIV positive? How did that happen?
Not to imply anything, of course, but sex with monkeys.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
Not to imply anything, of course, but sex with monkeys.

I deny the charge. Satan and I just cuddle occasionally.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
Not to imply anything, of course, but sex with monkeys.

Or just eating them can do it. A lot of diseases start with eating monkeys.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by c4ts
Or just eating them can do it. A lot of diseases start with eating monkeys.

Which is a subtle hint from the Monkey God.

You don't want to know what an unsubtle hint would be. It involves flinging something.

[phildonnia]

You'd think Satan could find the Green Angels a good lyricist.

"We're gonna rock, rock, rock, with the rock"?

[Marquis de Carabas]

Originally posted by phildonnia
You'd think Satan could find the Green Angels a good lyricist.

"We're gonna rock, rock, rock, with the rock"?
Obviously the line should be...

"We're gonna rock, rock, rock your socks off, with the rock! Rock on! .....Guitar!"

[c4ts]

Originally posted by phildonnia
You'd think Satan could find the Green Angels a good lyricist.

"We're gonna rock, rock, rock, with the rock"?

I think he was trying to humiliate them.

[Scot C. Trypal]

Originally posted by TragicMonkey
I'm confused. Satan thinks gay marriage is going too far? Weird.

That hit me as really queer too.

In the Chickiverse, Gay’s marriage is where Satan draws the line. Murder? Sure. Rape? Please do. Genocide and Christian rock music? Satan supports you 100%. But gay marriage?! Even a demon has his morals. :rolleyes:

Does this mean gays, being evil beyond Satan, will rule Hell? Can’t wait!

[Suddenly]

Ahhh... finally a line from a Chick Tract that seems reasonable:

"Christian" Rock, is a powerful demonic force controlled by Satan.

[geni]

Originally posted by Scot C. Trypal
That hit me as really queer too.

In the Chickiverse, Gay’s marriage is where Satan draws the line. Murder? Sure. Rape? Please do. Genocide and Christian rock music? Satan supports you 100%. But gay marriage?! Even a demon has his morals. :rolleyes:

Does this mean gays, being evil beyond Satan, will rule Hell? Can’t wait!

It because if they are openly gay they will have a harder time being a christian rock group. the idea is that satan wants them to apear good and of course to chick being clearly gay would prevent that.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by geni
It because if they are openly gay they will have a harder time being a christian rock group. the idea is that satan wants them to apear good and of course to chick being clearly gay would prevent that.

Chick didn't think Satan was quite evil enough to promote two of his agendas at once: foster the evil rock music while at the same time making gay marriage cool.

Really, Satan may be very evil, but he's a lousy strategist.

[Scot C. Trypal]

Ah, okay, I see now what Chick was aiming at.

But if Satan is really worried about keeping his band popular, then why kill a member off by giving him “some AIDS�? Clearly, as we see in later panels, the gay nuptials didn’t harm their popularity. A master of the narrative Chick ain’t.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by Scot C. Trypal
But if Satan is really worried about keeping his band popular, then why kill a member off by giving him “some AIDS�? Clearly, as we see in later panels, the gay nuptials didn’t harm their popularity. A master of the narrative Chick ain’t.

Lol. Don't tell him that, it would break his heart. And we'd never hear his crazy "Haw haw" laugh again.

[c4ts]

What the heck was that about vampirism near the end anyway? That was completely random.

[headscratcher4]

All the gay thing shows is that Satan is profoundly bad at managing the image of a super-cool rock band like this. Satan wasn't worried about "gay-mariage" as such, he was concerened that the Angel's image would be wrecked. It shows he is stuck in the past. Clearly, the controversy over a gay-wedding within the band would only drive the band farther and higher...big stories on entertainment tonight, banned at Walmart, Tucker Carlson condeming them, President Bush denouncing them, it would just generate more and more fame and cash.

Satan is quite clearly very short-sighted here. He can't see the big picture. The band should sue him (and Tommy Molto just for kicks), get out of the lousey contract and get a new manager.

BTW, noting Satan's MO here, it leads me to think he is managing Bill O'Rielly's career.....

[H'ethetheth]

Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
If you're going to mention Tool, you have to go with Opiate.

I don't feel like googling up the lyrics to C&P or typing them all, so I'll just hit the highlights...

My God's will
becomes me.
When he speaks,
he speaks through me.
He has needs
like I do.
We both want
to rape you.

Indeed, Keenan doesn't seem to like christians very much.

A perfect circle: Judith, from Mer de Noms

You're such an inspiration for ways that I will never ever choose to be.
Oh so many ways for me to show you how your savior has abandoned you.
F*** your god.
He did this, took all you had and left you this way.
still you pray, never stray, never taste of the fruit. never thought to question why.
it's not like you killed someone.
it's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side.
praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed.
he did it all for you.
oh so many ways for me to show you how your dogma has abandoned you.
pray to your christ, to your god.
never taste of the fruit,
never stray, never break,
never choke on a lie,
even though he's the one who did this to you
thought to question why
it's not like you killed someone.
it's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side.
talk to jesus christ as if he knows the reasons why he
did this all to you.
he did it all for you.