Looking for a God

[Lord Emsworth]

Well, yes, an Egyptian one. Named "Petra"

The apostle Peter appears to be a largely fictitious character. According to Christian mythology, Jesus chose him to be the "keeper of the keys to the kingdom of heaven." This is clearly based on the Egyptian pagan deity, Petra, who was the door-keeper of heaven and the afterlife ruled over by Osiris. (link) (http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html)

Has anybody ever heard of this one?

[c4ts]

No, but I have read the one about Moses being a priest of Akhenattan.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

This whole key master thing is a common theme. Wasn't there a recent religion with a key master? I think they made a movie about it.

~~ Paul

[espritch]

I think Rick Morranis was the key keeper in 'Ghost Busters'.

[Kitty Chan]

So the "old testament" is accurate not the new??

[espritch]

So the "old testament" is accurate not the new??

That was actually pretty much my thought when I was reading that link.

When the Israelites were confronted with the worship of Baal they did not blindly accept the ancient West Semitic myths as history. When the Maccabees were confronted with Greek religion they did not blindly accept Greek mythology as history. Why do so many modern Jews blindly accept Christian mythology?

I suspect the answer to this question is that Christianity is based on a revealed holy book just like Judaism. If they started requiring the Christians to provide independent corroboration for their holy screed, someone might ask them to provide independent corroboration for theirs. And there goes their God granted exclusive claim to Palestine right out the window. There is no way they can provide any independent corroboration for that.

Which is another way of saying people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[RamblingOnwards]

Well, we already have an example of a name that is figurative rather than literal - Veronica (of the veil). [Although I believe that is in one of the apocrypha rather than the bible itself.]

Then there's the whole 'Saul, (who also is called Paul,)' (acts 13:9) thing.

However, remember that Peter's original name was Simon in the bible - he was renamed to be 'the stone' (Peter).

[Operaider]

Originally posted by espritch
I think Rick Morranis was the key keeper in 'Ghost Busters'. Sorta, he was the Key Master. The Girl was the Gate Keeper

[Kitty Chan]

Originally posted by espritch
That was actually pretty much my thought when I was reading that link.
I suspect the answer to this question is that Christianity is based on a revealed holy book just like Judaism. Which is another way of saying people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

ahhh yep.

The verse in the Bible about there being nothing new under the sun comes to mind.

Actually its pretty much the same as was said about Jesus back in the day ;) All they have to say is they dont agree with Christ what He taught or did. Why say that He never existed at all? Just say you dont agree, period.

Or better yet just present their own beliefs and let the reader decide. If your beliefs are good you should not need to cut the other one down to prove yours. If one cant put their beliefs out for inspection then where does that leave one?

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by RamblingOnwards
However, remember that Peter's original name was Simon in the bible - he was renamed to be 'the stone' (Peter).


Don't forget about "Cephas" which is usually used to refer to him throughout the epistles. IIRC "Cephas" is just the Aramaic word for "Stone."

[Anders]

Originally posted by c4ts
No, but I have read the one about Moses being a priest of Akhenattan.
That is a very likely theory. Also, the original name of Tutankhamen, was TutAnkhAton, which shows that he also, in the beginning of his reign was an Aton worshipper as was AknAton.

The theory is that moses was one of AknAton's Aton priests, and as he and the rest of the Aton priests was expelled from Egypt they fled to Palestine and continued with their moneastic faith. Thus, Aton = the X-ian god. Of course the faith evolved during the years into the Judaism and Christianity we see today.

I just love this theory! It shows in a very likely way the paths of human wandering and how faiths interconnect.

[AWPrime]

And it show the path of insanity.

[Stitch]

Originally posted by Lord Emsworth
Well, yes, an Egyptian one. Named "Petra"

(link) (http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html)

Has anybody ever heard of this one?



Try this (http://www.nisbett.com/holidays/printer/christmas_pagan_parallels_to.htm)

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by Stitch
Try this (http://www.nisbett.com/holidays/printer/christmas_pagan_parallels_to.htm)



Thanks, at least I now have a city called Petra :p