View Full Version : The October Surprise Is Here.
LostAngeles
28th October 2004, 03:25 PM
I just saw that after hitting over $55 a barrel, oil has dropped to $52 and now $51.
Didn't something leak out a while ago about the Administration making some kind of an oil deal to happen right before the election? :D
Regnad Kcin
28th October 2004, 03:27 PM
No, no, no. The October Surprise is the Red Sox winning the Series!
BPSCG
28th October 2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Regnad Kcin
No, no, no. The October Surprise is the Red Sox winning the Series! No, the Red Sox winning the Series is a sign that the Apocalypse is nigh.
Let me get this straight. John Kerry is running for president because our current one has been a botch in international relations.
But this stupid imbecile, who has dostroyed all the good will we had on September 12, 2001, has somehow managed to persuade the countries of Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, China, Mexico, Norway, Venezuela, the United Kingdom, and Canada (the world's top 10 oil producers, excluding the U.S.) to all agree to slash their prices for us just before the election?
How'd he do it?
LostAngeles
28th October 2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by BPSCG
No, the Red Sox winning the Series is a sign that the Apocalypse is nigh.
Let me get this straight. John Kerry is running for president because our current one has been a botch in international relations.
But this stupid imbecile, who has dostroyed all the good will we had on September 12, 2001, has somehow managed to persuade the countries of Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, China, Mexico, Norway, Venezuela, the United Kingdom, and Canada (the world's top 10 oil producers, excluding the U.S.) to all agree to slash their prices for us just before the election?
How'd he do it?
Here it is: White House, Saudis: No election deal on oil (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/19/bush.oil/)
So apparently it was just the Saudis,fnord most of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, fnord Bush sat there in the classroom when he heard, fnord his family has ties to the Saudis, fnord Halliburton, fnord Texas oilmen, fnord this has all been a scheme by the Illuminati to control the election.
(fnord is from Illuminatus!. Supposedly, we never conciously read the word, but it causes us to become afraid)
At this point, I really think someone somewhere is just screwing around.
SlippyToad
28th October 2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
I just saw that after hitting over $55 a barrel, oil has dropped to $52 and now $51.
Didn't something leak out a while ago about the Administration making some kind of an oil deal to happen right before the election? :D If he did, it's way too late now. I just bought the last tank of gas I'm going to buy before next Tuesday, and it was by far the most expensive tank of gas I've paid for all year. Timing . . .timing. Need to work on it!
It's just occurred to me . . . Maybe none of the people running his campaign buy their own gas. They might not be aware of how often it needs to be done.
And more importantly, they don't know that the average American hasn't a clue what a barrel of oil costs, or what it means to them in real dollars.
Grammatron
28th October 2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by BPSCG
No, the Red Sox winning the Series is a sign that the Apocalypse is nigh.
Let me get this straight. John Kerry is running for president because our current one has been a botch in international relations.
But this stupid imbecile, who has dostroyed all the good will we had on September 12, 2001, has somehow managed to persuade the countries of Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, China, Mexico, Norway, Venezuela, the United Kingdom, and Canada (the world's top 10 oil producers, excluding the U.S.) to all agree to slash their prices for us just before the election?
How'd he do it?
That's easy, he didn't. Dick Cheney did through Halliburton. As you know, corporation run the world and consequently USA so they are able to create any deal they want.
BPSCG
28th October 2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
(fnord is from Illuminatus!. Supposedly, we never conciously read the word, but it causes us to become afraid)
At this point, I really think someone somewhere is just screwing around. Uh, yeah, sounds like it. Did you remember to take your anti-psychotics today...?
LostAngeles
28th October 2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by BPSCG
Uh, yeah, sounds like it. Did you remember to take your anti-psychotics today...?
You missed the implication that I was kidding right? Conspiracy theories are nothing more than random beads on a string. Following the metaphor, if two beads happen to resemble each other, you suddenly have a pattern and gosh, it must be true.
Personally, I'm finding this funny. Why? Because it's just too obvious. It's either sheer chance, or someone's screwing around for kicks.
Grammatron
28th October 2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
You missed the implication that I was kidding right? Conspiracy theories are nothing more than random beads on a string. Following the metaphor, if two beads happen to resemble each other, you suddenly have a pattern and gosh, it must be true.
Personally, I'm finding this funny. Why? Because it's just too obvious. It's either sheer chance, or someone's screwing around for kicks.
It can still go up to $55 tomorrow, October's not over yet you know.
Mycroft
28th October 2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
(fnord is from Illuminatus!. Supposedly, we never conciously read the word, but it causes us to become afraid)
Fnord isn't really the word, it's just the word RAW used in place of the real word. If you used the real word, nobody could see it and people would just skip your posts because subconsciously it made them feel uncomfortable.
corplinx
28th October 2004, 05:27 PM
One of the causes of recent high prices was hurricane activity. Off shore oil rig production was hurt.
Dorian Gray
28th October 2004, 11:27 PM
One of the causes of the drop was that China's "Greenspan-san" raised interest rates by around .42% or something. It made borrowing money slightly more expensive for Chinese, meaning they were able to buy fewer items like gasoline and oil, meaning that the demand went down, meaning supply went up (or didn't drop by as much, amounting to the same thing), meaning the price dropped.
LostAngeles
29th October 2004, 12:24 PM
...:(
Now it's not funny anymore. Stupid legitimate reasons!
TragicMonkey
29th October 2004, 12:30 PM
I already know the October Surprise....wait for it....
Teresa Heinz-Kerry is a MAN, baby!*.
And I'll deliver the evidence to all the world unless I get [pinky to lips] one million dollars. Mwah ha ha!
*Hey, did anyone see it coming on Nip/Tuck? Me neither.
Chaos
29th October 2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Dorian Gray
One of the causes of the drop was that China's "Greenspan-san" raised interest rates by around .42% or something. It made borrowing money slightly more expensive for Chinese, meaning they were able to buy fewer items like gasoline and oil, meaning that the demand went down, meaning supply went up (or didn't drop by as much, amounting to the same thing), meaning the price dropped.
[economic nitpick]
Supply didn´t go up or down. It is not affected by interest rates.
Demand went down, causing prices to drop. That´s all.
[/economic nitpick]
Sorry, couldn´t resist.
SlippyToad
29th October 2004, 04:49 PM
Wow. It looks like the real unscripted October Surprise is the Return of BinLaden (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/binladen.tape/index.html)
Just when I thought he was stone-dead, too. Of course, I haven't seen any analysis on the authenticity of the tape, either. I mean, did it really take him three years to hunt down a Sony Handicam out there in the Pakistani wilderness?
Dorian Gray
30th October 2004, 01:00 AM
[economic nitpick]
Supply didn´t go up or down. It is not affected by interest rates.
Demand went down, causing prices to drop. That´s all.
[/economic nitpick]
World supply of oil was indirectly affected by the interest rates in the manner I described. Prices can fall if supply goes up and demand stays the same. They can fall if demand goes down and supply stays the same.
In this case, demand went down AND supply went up. This ALSO causes prices to fall.
Simple example: 10 people and 10 of a type of product. If suddenly there are 11 products, prices fall. If suddenly only 9 people want the products, prices fall. If suddenly there are 11 products AND only 9 people want them, prices fall.
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