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Tmy
25th March 2003, 02:00 PM
Turks dont like em', Saddam dont like em. What's their deal?

Skeptical Greg
25th March 2003, 02:06 PM
Don't forget the Whey's!!!

Seriously... Some of my best friends are Kurds...

fidiot
25th March 2003, 02:07 PM
Seeing how this is the war to liberate the Iraqi people(including the Kurds in the region, I assume), and Saddam's regime will be destroyed, the Kurds should be better off after this war. I guess we should wait and see how that one goes. :confused:

25th March 2003, 02:30 PM
Mmm, Turkey and Kurds. Delicious.

arcticpenguin
25th March 2003, 02:33 PM
Little Miss Muffet.

25th March 2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Turks dont like em', Saddam dont like em. What's their deal?

When Britain was drawing lines in the sand to create the various countries in the Middle East, they neglected to create a nation for the Kurds. The line between Turkey and Iraq cut them in two. The Kurds are a little upset they didn't get a country of their own, and this makes both the Turks and the Iraqis nervous.

DrBenway
25th March 2003, 03:16 PM
This is a good article on the Kurds:
http://www.crisisweb.org/projects/showreport.cfm?reportid=923

Click on the PDF version for more background regarding Kurdish politics.

Good luck following all the various factions and what they want. Let's see, there is/was the
PKK
KDP
PUK
IMK
ITF
TCA

What Saddam did to these people is unspeakable.

Tmy
26th March 2003, 05:44 AM
Another question. Should we be allied with the Kurds?? I am now weary of this friend of my enemy association. At one point Saddam was are buddy.

Have the Kurds been up to nonsense? Any evil deeds or shiftyness we should know about.

arcticpenguin
26th March 2003, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Tmy
Another question. Should we be allied with the Kurds?? I am now weary of this friend of my enemy association. At one point Saddam was are buddy.

Have the Kurds been up to nonsense? Any evil deeds or shiftyness we should know about.
I do find it ironic and slightly amusing when news reports explain how we are backing the secular kurds, and the fanatics who want to combine religion with government are the bad guys.

Advocate
26th March 2003, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Tmy
Another question. Should we be allied with the Kurds?? I am now weary of this friend of my enemy association.

Well the Kurds are the enemy of our enemy (Iraq) and also the enemy of out ally (Turkey). So what does that make them besides screwed?

Tmy
26th March 2003, 06:12 AM
Isnt Saddam as secular as you get in the region? How can we install a democracy with all these ethnic rivals flaoting around. Maybe we should install a new Ottoman Empire. I love those little foot rests they make.

Saturn
26th March 2003, 07:13 AM
The Kurds are pretty much screwed, as usual. Bush has already promised that there will be a unified Iraq (so much for self-determination), and they will probably lose much of the autonomy they had over the last decade. Check out Timothy Noah's "Kurd Sellout Watch" on Slate: http://slate.msn.com/id/2080720/

UnrepentantSinner
26th March 2003, 07:24 AM
While this is an evasive answer at best, let me just point out that the Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a hetrogeneous homeland.

Of course, as an American, hetrogenity is not all it's cracked up to be and a little bit of diversity should be embraced.

My $.02 on Kurdestan? No... it would serve to destabelize (sic, I've been drinking) too many countries in the region.

Full Kurdish representation in the "new Iraq" yes.

Tmy
26th March 2003, 08:17 AM
Is the region going to be stableized?? what about the grumblings from the Turks, Iranians, and Syrians. Are they going to enter the frey? What would be their intentions.

Crossbow
26th March 2003, 08:54 AM
Nobody likes the Kurds.

There are Kurdish populations in Iraq, Iran, Saudia Arabia, Turkey, and Russia. These countries do not like the Kurds and they are in fear that the Kurds might get their own country at the expense of theirs.

DrBenway
26th March 2003, 11:47 AM
The notion that a people linked by language or religion ought to have their own nation state is outdated. Nations ought to serve geographic areas, with logical boundaries based upon legal claims to property.

National governments ought to be like public utilities. Who cares whether the person running the phone company is white, black, red, Jewish, or Muslim?

The Kurds living in Iraq are Iraqis. They deserve the same rights of participation in their government as any other Iraqi.

Jon_in_london
26th March 2003, 12:10 PM
No, not me. Im not like the Kurds at all.