Great White murders swimmer

[American]

Looks like that shark we saved off Cape Cod (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45919) may have turned on us.


Shark kills old woman (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1360860,00.html)

November 16, 2004

Woman, 77 is killed by shark 'the size of a helicopter'
From Fred Bridgland in Johannesburg

A WOMAN swimmer was attacked and killed by a great white shark, described by rescue services as bigger than their search helicopter, off the Cape Peninsula in South Africa yesterday in full view of onlookers on the shore.
...
Friends who gathered on the shore said that Mrs Webb, a mother of five children, who lived in Fish Hoek, had swum six mornings a week for the past seventeen years at Sunny Cove. They described her as fearless, fit and very independent.

The woman swimmer never had a chance, and being so old didn't help either.

“An attack is always a possibility,� Len Compagno, of the Shark Research Centre in Cape Town, said. “In the sea, you’re in the shark’s home, not yours. Shark attacks do happen, they have happened, they will always happen, but the apocalypse is not upon us.�

BULL. If this guy loves sharks so much, why doesn't he go live with them?

If he likes sharks, then he should go jump into the shark tank at the zoo and stay there, and see how much he likes it.

[Soapy Sam]

Well, the lady was 77. We have to assume she knew and accepted the hazards in what she did.
She doesn't sound the sort who would whine about it.

[Diogenes]

From the article:

BEACH DANGER

Amanzimtoti, near Durban, South Africa. Eleven shark attacks, three of them fatal, since 1940

New Smyrna Beach, in Florida. Six shark attacks in one weekend in 2001

Suape port, Pernambuco, Brazil. Fourteen people are said to have died of shark attacks since 1990

Australia has had 132 fatal attacks in the past 200 years, the highest number of any country



132 In 200 years!

Wow, if it keeps happening, being killed by sharks will be right up there with taking naps on railroad tracks.

[Iconoclast]

Originally posted by Diogenes
From the article: "Australia has had 132 fatal attacks in the past 200 years, the highest number of any country
"

132 In 200 years!

Wow, if it keeps happening, being killed by sharks will be right up there with taking naps on railroad tracks.
And also please note that there is NO plans nor public pressure to go out and kill them all because of that statistic. There's about a million more likely ways to die in Australia than being eaten by a shark.

We have shark nets on our popular swimming beaches but there is pressure to have them removed in some areas due to the large number of marine animals that get tangled up in them and suffocate.

[CurtC]

I'm a little confused here - are you saying that you think this is the same shark in Massachusetts, who swam ten thousand miles to eat a 77 year old woman?

Or is there some other point to your post? Are you saying that we should mount a major campaign to eradicate the sharks from the world's oceans?

[Dragon]

Originally posted by CurtC
I'm a little confused here - are you saying that you think this is the same shark in Massachusetts, who swam ten thousand miles to eat a 77 year old woman?

Or is there some other point to your post? Are you saying that we should mount a major campaign to eradicate the sharks from the world's oceans? The connection is obvious, Curt.

Let me spell it out for you - Cape Cod and Cape Peninsula - coincidence? I think not.

And I wouldn't mind betting this shark is in league with Al Qaeda. Damn turrist sharks!

[Iconoclast]

Originally posted by American
Looks like that shark we saved off Cape Cod (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45919) may have turned on us.
I just read your original article. So, when you say "we saved" a Great White at Cape Cod, what you actually mean is "we didn't blow it's head off", since it never needed saving in the first place.

Tool.

[Mercutio]

How come the headline wasn't "Shark responds to home invasion; Trespasser pays for crime"?

[Psiload]

Originally posted by CurtC
I'm a little confused here - are you saying that you think this is the same shark in Massachusetts, who swam ten thousand miles to eat a 77 year old woman?
Have you ever seen the movie Jaws 3? This is basically the plot. That "the shark" was gunning for members of Sheriff Brody's family... followed his son from Cape Cod, all the way to the Caribbean. The movie couldn't have been any more preposterous if it had included a car chase scene with the shark in hot pursuit . :rolleyes:

[American]

Originally posted by Iconoclast
And also please note that there is NO plans nor public pressure to go out and kill them all because of that statistic. There's about a million more likely ways to die in Australia than being eaten by a shark.

Crocadials.

[Psi Baba]

Is that band back in action? Oh, wait--you're talking about a shark. Never mind.

Originally posted by Dragon
The connection is obvious, Curt.

Let me spell it out for you - Cape Cod and Cape Peninsula - coincidence? I think not.

Maybe he's trying to say that Cape Cod totally copied Australia.

[Iconoclast]

Originally posted by Psiload
Have you ever seen the movie Jaws 3? This is basically the plot. That "the shark" was gunning for members of Sheriff Brody's family... followed his son from Cape Cod, all the way to the Caribbean. The movie couldn't have been any more preposterous if it had included a car chase scene with the shark in hot pursuit . :rolleyes:
Yes, but it was just a ripoff of Orca (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076504/).

[hgc]

Originally posted by Iconoclast
Yes, but it was just a ripoff of Orca (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076504/). But Orca was believable, since an orca is a big hungry dolphin that speaks French and can recognize that Richard Harris is the guy that killed its baby, and isn't a stupid primoridial fish like a shark.

[rebecca]

How does an alligator make a phone call?

Originally posted by American
(He) Crocadials.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

More people are killed every year by vending machines falling on them than shark attacks.

[Correa Neto]

Would a shark eat a troll?

[fishbob]

How come the headline wasn't "Shark responds to home invasion; Trespasser pays for crime"? Cuz this is not a Richard G. post.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally posted by Correa Neto
Would a shark eat a troll?

If only they would then RP would stop being spammed by 1IC.

[cbish]

I was in the water at Stinson Beach CA two years ago when a fellow surfer was attacked by a Great White. It was a wild experience. I've gone back a half dozen times since.;)

[TeaBag420]

Originally posted by American
Looks like that shark we saved off Cape Cod (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45919) may have turned on us.


Shark kills old woman (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1360860,00.html)



The woman swimmer never had a chance, and being so old didn't help either.



BULL. If this guy loves sharks so much, why doesn't he go live with them?

If he likes sharks, then he should go jump into the shark tank at the zoo and stay there, and see how much he likes it.

And if you think animals are capable of murder, I wish similar shark attacks on you. "Murder" is a legal term. It's not against the law for a shark to eat a person.

[American]

Cape Town considers shark hunt after swimmer is killed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/southafrica/story/0,13262,1353067,00.html?gusrc=rss)
Andrew Meldrum in Pretoria
Wednesday November 17, 2004

The authorities in South Africa were considering last night whether to launch a hunt for the great white shark that killed an elderly woman off a Cape Town beach - the second attack on swimmers in the area this year.

Even if they don't catch the actual killer, it sends a strong message that could deter other sharks from hunting humans. I'm all for it.

They were also debating whether to stop tourists feeding sharks, a practice that may have encouraged the animals to linger in the waters.

That would be giving in to the sharks. (If we change how we live, then they've already won.)

Craig Lambinon, a spokesman for the National Sea Rescue Institute, said crews later spotted the shark from the air. "The shark is bigger than the helicopter ... it is huge," he told the South African Press Association.

It's a really big shark!

[Beanbag]

It's always a bummer to find out you're not at the top of the food chain.

Regards;
Beanbag

[Soapy Sam]

Anyone got the stats?

How many humans killed by sharks in an average year?

How many sharks killed by humans in an average year?


Why do I expect a difference of several orders of magnitude?

[CurtC]

While I thought this rant was about sharks at first, American's most recent post tells me that this is a metaphor for something else - terrorism, maybe? Sorry if we're being dense, but could you, in the future, make your metaphors a little more transparent?

[Correa Neto]

| say we should hunt all humans, since they are obviously dangerous to humans.

Even if the the actual killers are not caught, it sends a strong message that could deter other humans from hunting humans. I'm all for it.

And of course, changing human way of life would be giving in to the humans. (If we change how we live, then they've already won.)

[American]

Originally posted by Correa Neto
| say we should hunt all humans, since they are obviously dangerous to humans.

Even if the the actual killers are not caught, it sends a strong message that could deter other humans from hunting humans. I'm all for it.

And of course, changing human way of life would be giving in to the humans. (If we change how we live, then they've already won.)

That sounds like something a shark would say if sharks could use computers. It also makes me wonder how many old women you may have murdered.

[Correa Neto]

Old ladies are a threat to our way of life, since they require money to be spent for they wellfare, via social programs spounsored by the government. Since the current policy is to cut the waste of money with social programs...

I have the strong impression that much more old ladies are killed my mishappen (or inexistent) social policies than by sharks.

I hope that your lack of understanding about how species interact hopefully is not the standard result of USA science education.

Actually I think that such level of knoweledge regarding ecology and biology is exactly the result one would expect from schools were creationism is taught.