I'm a Republican Now

[Charlie Monoxide]

After seeing the results of the last election, I'm tired of being on such a losing team. From now on I'm going to consider myself a Republican.

I'll accept the fact that although most of Bush's senior staff (or what's left off it), never really served in the military, they are true patriots, and show strong leadership. You don't have to take up arms to fight an enemy to be a strong, patriotic politician.

I'll also accept the fact that the reason that this country is in such moral dire staits, is that these dang same-sex couples (aka sodomites), are trying to destroy the sanctity of the institution of marriage. Although I'm divorced (from a true male-female marriage, thank you very much), I now feel that allowing gay people (again, I prefer to call you sodomites), to marry is sending a wrong message to our children.

I also accept the fact that politically motivated individuals are trying to undermine the Republican leadership by "possibly" indicted Tom Delay. Back off, he's a good man. He's done well for the Republican party and he should continue in his leadership position notwithstanding any silly rules we (as Republicans), devised, way back in the early 90's. That's like "ancient history".

I also accept that we are "freeing" the oppressed Iraqi people. Although our initial reason was to disarm a bad bad man of WMD's, the objective has changed somewhat, since the bad bad man has effectively hidden those WMD's. Once our "boy" in Iraq, is elected in a fair, democratic election, the Iraqi people will be truly free.

I also feel that running a deficit will help our economy. In my mind, screw those children! (although not in a sexual way). Those kids should learn that we all share the American dream and you have to work hard to attain it. Spend 5 or 10 or 20 years of your life working minimum wage ($5.15/hr). Don't get sick, and don't start a family. Stay single and lonely and feel patriotic that you are helping others to see their American dream.

As for you leftie, hippy environmental types. Again, screw those kids. It's is very unpatriotic for us NOT to rape the environment for short term gain. If we preserve the environment, we will lose our economic competitive edge with socialist countries, like say Canada.

I also accept the fact that Clinton was truly an evil piece of crap. All he did was drag this wonderful country down.

Although I'm an atheist, I will accept the fact that Christians are truly superior to the other beliefs that exist, and have existed for thousands of years (ie imagine those godless people, worshipping a cow?). "One nation under God" and the display of the ten commandments (although the first 4 deal with god), show just how sophisticated and advanced we are as a nation.

Finally, we really need to bring back abortion laws. Women have gotten so "uppity" since we allowed them sexual freedom through contraception and the availability of abortions. It's time to shut those sluts down.

Charlie (I'm a Republican now) Monoxide

[Mycroft]

Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
After seeing the results of the last election, I'm tired of being on such a losing team. From now on I'm going to consider myself a Republican.

Oh cheer up. I haven't voted for a winning presidential nominee yet.

[Dorian Gray]

No one did this last election. Bush isn't a winning candidate - he's just a candidate who won.

[shuize]

Originally posted by Dorian Gray
... he's just a candidate who won. Twice.

[CapelDodger]

Originally posted by shuize
Twice. Quite. Who's fool enough to stick with the losers after that? I, too, would be a Republican if I felt I had no other option.

[Otther]

Maybe moderate liberals should join the republican party?

If the country is generally moving to the conservative end, perhaps the best thing to do is hijack the conservative party. Hardly anyone votes in the primaries... how hard could it be to swing the repub primaries for moderate republicans? At least then if they win, it won't be so bad.

[Crossbow]

Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
...

I also accept the fact that Clinton was truly an evil piece of crap. All he did was drag this wonderful country down.

...

Charlie (I'm a Republican now) Monoxide

Congratulations! By blaming Clinton your journey to the Dark Side is now complete!

:p

[HarryKeogh]

You make a convincing argument, Charlie. But I'll be staying with the Whig party.

[Regnad Kcin]

Originally posted by shuize
Twice. Though elected only once.

[Regnad Kcin]

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
You make a convincing argument, Charlie. But I'll be staying with the Whig party. Bull Moose for me!

[nightwind]

I too share the frustration of Charlie, and am really amazed at how people can support the stances that the Bush administration takes on things.

It is really amazing. Interestingly before the election, most all of the people voting for Bush that I spoke too, did not really even know much as far as how either candidate stood on many of the issues. They were just voting for Bush, because he was a Texan and a fellow redneck.

But the Democrats will come back. Never fear. Although this may seem like a massive takeover by the fanatical right, the pendulum will swing back the other way, to more sensible policies. I just hope that not too much damage has been done by that time.

[NarrMaster]

Can't beat em, join em, eh?

[clk]

Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide


I also accept the fact that Clinton was truly an evil piece of crap. All he did was drag this wonderful country down.



I also do not like Clinton because I absolutely hated living in a peaceful, prosperous, and well respected nation. I would rather live in a war mongering, recessive and hated nation. That is why I like Bush.

[Dorian Gray]

YES! Now let's all get xenophobic! Death to other people who don't have visas or temporary worker cards! Death to people with towels on their heads unless they are women getting out of the shower! Fortress America! Get them befroe they get us! Nuke Mecca and Medina!

Wow, it sure is fun to be a hater.

[Patrick]

YES! Now let's all get xenophobic!

NO NOOOOOOOOO!!! LET'S THROW OPEN THE FRIGGEN GATES!! NOT 3 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN MEXICANS THIS YEAR - LET'S MAKE IT 30 MILLION!!! STOP CHECKING PEOPLE AT AIRPORTS, OR AT LEAST JUST CHECK SWEDISH GRAND-MOTHERS!! QUIT HASSELING YOUNG ARAB MEN WHO ARRIVE WITH NO LUGGAGE, WANT TO TAKE FLYING LESSONS, AND WHERE YOU CAN BUY DYNAMITE, AND FOR GOD'S SAKE LET THOSE POOR ARABS WHO JUST HAPPENED TO BE CAUGHT ON A BATTLEFIELD WITH AN AK-47 OUT OF GITMO!!! LET'S JUST SIT DOWN AND ALL SING KUMBAYAH, THEN LET'S KISS OUR ASSES GOODBYE!

[Earthborn]

LET'S THROW OPEN THE FRIGGEN GATES!! NOT 3 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN MEXICANS THIS YEAR - LET'S MAKE IT 30 MILLION!!!Since illegal aliens are in the country illegally, allowing more people to enter the country legally does not increase the number of illegal aliens.

[Patrick]

Since illegal aliens are in the country illegally, allowing more people to enter the country legally does not increase the number of illegal aliens.

Har Har, real funny - and from what I read - lots of people in the Netherlands are getting real tired of legal immigration of moslems.

[jj]

Originally posted by Patrick
Since illegal aliens are in the country illegally, allowing more people to enter the country legally does not increase the number of illegal aliens.

Har Har, real funny - and from what I read - lots of people in the Netherlands are getting real tired of legal immigration of moslems.

Ahhh, yes, let's try to dodge the question. Patrick, what you said was absurd. You tried, now, to imply that you response has something to do with it all, and guess what, when you tried that YOU MADE IT ALL UP!

Can you believe it? Patrick made it up. Again! Imagine my surprise!

[CptColumbo]

This last election makes 5 straight Presidential Elections, where the person I voted for did not get elected. Of course, usually voting third party doesn't help, but some times I vote major parties (like Dukakis, WTF happened there).

[Richard G]

YES! Now let's all get xenophobic! Death to other people who don't have visas or temporary worker cards! Death to people with towels on their heads unless they are women getting out of the shower! Fortress America! Get them befroe they get us! Nuke Mecca and Medina!

I'm with ya. Its national ammo week. Buy some. Get some.

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[Demigorgon]

O how about some cheese and crackers to go with that whine?

:v: :v: :v:

[CapelDodger]

Originally posted by jj
Can you believe it? Patrick made it up. Again! Imagine my surprise! Is this guy eponymous yet?

[Luke T.]

Perhaps I should join the Democratic Party to offset Charlie's defection.

I believe you do not deserve any money you earn above a subsistence level and should be severaly punished with taxes for being so ambitious or born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

I think if your 12 year old daughter gets pregnant during a cocaine blackout at some guy's house, she should be able to get an abortion without you knowing about it.

If the leader of another country states a desire to harm the U.S., it must be our fault somehow, and we should do everything we can to make that leader happy.

I think forcing kids to say the Pledge of Allegiance in school is the road to Nazism and should be halted immediately.

As a rabid believer in freedom of the press and of speech, I believe the media should have a representative present at all high level Cabinet meetings and CIA briefings and should be able to enter military bases at will.

[Charlie Monoxide]

Originally posted by clk
I also do not like Clinton because I absolutely hated living in a peaceful, prosperous, and well respected nation. I would rather live in a war mongering, recessive and hated nation. That is why I like Bush.
I agree. Although the economy did well under Clinton, and we did deal with that deficit, we are more harmonious as a patriotic nation. We now have a common enemy, the Al Kaida, and George Bush, our illustrious leader we lead us against this evil ideology.

After we "free" Iraq, we will move forward and free the Iranians and North Koreans. History will truly show the wonderful leadership of the GOP and necons have bestowed on the rest of the world.

Cahrlie (neo-neocon) Monoxide

[Charlie Monoxide]

Originally posted by Crossbow
Congratulations! By blaming Clinton your journey to the Dark Side is now complete!

:p
Thank you. Even now after 5 years, we (as Republicans) understand that the root of evil (same sex marraige, access to abortion, and socialism in general) can easily be attributed to William Jefferson Clinton.

We must also ensure that the evil twin (aka Hillary) must also be dealt with accordingly. We will continue to spread the word (via Rush and Sean and other "right thinkers"), that she must not be allowed to pursue her dream of "social medicine" or any of the other Marxist dogmas that now plague us. This only sends the "wrong message" to our children (of hetero marriages), that compassion is only a word and must not be acted upon.

Charlie (a pox on Hillary) Monoxide

[Patrick]

I agree. Although the economy did well under Clinton,

The economy didn't do "well" under Clinton - Bubba left Bush with a recession that economists say started 3 weekes after Bush took office. A large part of the budget deficit is due to lower government revenue from the recession - the fed has had to fight the Clinton recession for the whole of Bush's first term.

[Questioninggeller]

Originally posted by Patrick

The economy didn't do "well" under Clinton - Bubba left Bush with a recession that economists say started 3 weekes after Bush took office. A large part of the budget deficit is due to lower government revenue from the recession - the fed has had to fight the Clinton recession for the whole of Bush's first term.

*Added the bold and underlined the mistake.

[Patrick]

*Added the bold and underlined the mistake.

I don't why you added the bold - surely you know the causes that trigger a recession would be operative waaaaaaaayy longer than 3 weeks before the official start of a recession - or do you know that? As for mistake - what mistake???

[clk]

Originally posted by Patrick

The economy didn't do "well" under Clinton

You're right. ALOT of people were jobless under Clinton. Just take a look at the unemployment rate.

http://data.bls.gov/labjava/servlets/graphics/generated_graphs/LNS14000000_306_1101111509592.gif

Ignore those pesky spikes in unemployment before 1993 and after 2000. The high unemployment before 1993 was caused by Jimmy Carter. And the high unemployment from 2001 to 2004 was caused by Clinton.

Oh, and that steady decline in the unemployment rate from 1993 to 2001 was clearly due to George HW Bush's visionary economic policy.


Now, here come the excuses....

[Charlie Monoxide]

Originally posted by clk
You're right. ALOT of people were jobless under Clinton. Just take a look at the unemployment rate.

http://data.bls.gov/labjava/servlets/graphics/generated_graphs/LNS14000000_306_1101111509592.gif

Ignore those pesky spikes in unemployment before 1993 and after 2000. The high unemployment before 1993 was caused by Jimmy Carter. And the high unemployment from 2001 to 2004 was caused by Clinton.

Oh, and that steady decline in the unemployment rate from 1993 to 2001 was clearly due to George HW Bush's visionary economic policy.


Now, here come the excuses....

More proof that George W is the strong leader that we need. Obviously Carter and Clinton really did nothing for the economy. George W with his tax breaks for the working folk (yes, not just those rich people) will spur our economy to new heights. I'm sure the people who aren't "working" are just those lazy leftist types who probably have PHD's in art or social sciences and feel that they are entitled to some government handout.

Thanks clk and thanks Patrick. Please help to set these left leaning, latte sucking, birkenstock wearing Liberals on the right path.

Charlie (get with the program, you lazy liberals) Monoxide

[Matabiri]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4031197.stm

Killer understatement:
There is growing scepticism whether America's commitment to the strong dollar is genuine.

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
More proof that George W is the strong leader that we need. Obviously Carter and Clinton really did nothing for the economy. George W with his tax breaks for the working folk (yes, not just those rich people) will spur our economy to new heights. I'm sure the people who aren't "working" are just those lazy leftist types who probably have PHD's in art or social sciences and feel that they are entitled to some government handout.
The tax breaks are clearly working but with the budget deficit at $413 billion dollars something needs to be done. Bush has vowed to half the debt. Obvously serious steps need to be taken to turn this around.

I think that we are looking to knock 5c in the $ of all tax rates in order to incentivise people to work harder to get the economy back on track. If that does not work knock 10c off.

[clk]

Originally posted by clk
You're right. ALOT of people were jobless under Clinton. Just take a look at the unemployment rate.

http://data.bls.gov/labjava/servlets/graphics/generated_graphs/LNS14000000_306_1101111509592.gif

Ignore those pesky spikes in unemployment before 1993 and after 2000. The high unemployment before 1993 was caused by Jimmy Carter. And the high unemployment from 2001 to 2004 was caused by Clinton.

Oh, and that steady decline in the unemployment rate from 1993 to 2001 was clearly due to George HW Bush's visionary economic policy.


Now, here come the excuses....

For some reason, the graph didn't display properly. Let me try to display it again, so that everyone can see how well the Republican economic policies work compared to the Democratic economic policies.

http://data.bls.gov/labjava/servlets/graphics/generated_graphs/lns14000000_7111_1101142684326.gif

[Michael Redman]

Originally posted by Earthborn
Since illegal aliens are in the country illegally, allowing more people to enter the country legally does not increase the number of illegal aliens. It certainly does. We don't round up people for expulsion when their visas run out. Many, if not most, people in the US illegally entered the country legally and overstayed their visas.

[Dorian Gray]

Since illegal aliens are in the country illegally, allowing more people to enter the country legally does not increase the number of illegal aliens.

This is like making everything legal and claiming that you have eliminated all crime - not quite correct.