Collateral damage

[armageddonman]

A market in Bagdad has been hit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2887555.stm) by a missile. Lots of civilian casualities.

That's not exactly the way to liberate people.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by armageddonman
That's not exactly the way to liberate people.

All civilian deaths are unfortunate.

How were the French liberated?

[armageddonman]

Originally posted by aerocontrols

How were the French liberated?

How does that have anything to do with Iraq?

How was East Germany liberated?

[richardm]

Did you read the thread about the Iraqis deploying GPS jammers that are designed to make GPS guided bombs go off target? And you will have noticed that they've been lighting fires to try to obscure targets.

We have a situation where an enemy is dropping bombs in densely occupied civilian areas, but is doing so in such a way that the bombs virtually always hit their targets and avoid neighbouring civilian buildings. If you deliberately throw off their targetting, does that make you culpable?

I'm not saying that this is what has happened in this case. I'd just be interested in hearing views.

[armageddonman]

You mean the thread where it is explained how such a GPS jammer couldn't possibly jam a GPS guided missile?

Edit: just read it again. According to aerocontrols, a GPS jammer could maybe jam a missile.

Do you have any proof that a GPS jammer is responsible?

[Tmy]

Originally posted by armageddonman



How was East Germany liberated?

How was it occupied? Force baby!!!
You got to admit, the alllied forces are bending over backwards in an attemp to minimize casualties.


Im thinking "Collateral Damage" would be a cool band name.

[richardm]

Whether it could or not, the intention is there.

It's a continuing theme - soldiers came out of Basra yesterday driving civilians in front of them, for example; misuse of white flags, and suchlike. It's interesting that the coalition forces go to such lengths to avoid killing civilians, yet the Iraqi forces couldn't seem to care less.

[richardm]

Originally posted by armageddonman

Do you have any proof that a GPS jammer is responsible?

No, none at all, and as I said in my original post I wasn't suggesting that it was.

I was trying to suggest that the reason this is such a newsworthy event - 15 people killed in a warzone - is because the coalition have taken great pains to avoid killing civilians.

Their own countrymen, however, couldn't give a stuff and cheerfully attempt to subvert targetting, so that the Western media can get frothed up with excitement as innocent civilians are killed.

[armageddonman]

Originally posted by richardm
No, none at all, and as I said in my original post I wasn't suggesting that it was.

My mistake, sorry.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by armageddonman
A market in Bagdad has been hit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2887555.stm) by a missile. Lots of civilian casualities.

That's not exactly the way to liberate people.

The market damage site is suspiciously inconsistent with cruise missile damage says Fox News.....there are no missile components visible in the damage says Fox's resident ex-General. The Coalition has not confirmed any errant missiles at the time of the market bomb.

If the Iraqis can march civilians in front of their irregular troops...execute their own people who dare to surrender to faux Coalition troops.....fake surrender and ambush....murder troops who have surrendered and are disarmed....and stage military operations out of hospitals...I think it would not be too far fetched that they would bomb their own market and attempt to blame it on the Coalition.

They are vermin....the good news is that although we have to listen to the incessant whining of lefties like you....we no longer have to listen to the liars in Baghdad....seems their tv is on the fritz. :D

-z

[richardm]

Originally posted by armageddonman


My mistake, sorry.

Cheers!

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by armageddonman
How does that have anything to do with Iraq?

You were, I believe, lecturing on the correct way to liberate people. One presumes you meant in general, as opposed to only in Iraq.

Originally posted by armageddonman
How was East Germany liberated?

The slow way. I'm just glad we're getting rid of the Mukharabat. Too bad the Stasi were backed up by a population of 2 billion and thousands of ICBMs. Perhaps so many wouldn't have died trying to get across the border to West Germany.