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Johnny Pneumatic
21st November 2004, 03:01 PM
What is the name of the heresy where one asks if Adam had nipples? It's such a problem because if Adam had worthless nipples then god created Adam with a feature that is not consistant with intelligent creation; thus god is lying. or If Adam didn't have nipples then he wasn't the same as us and thus how do we have his sin nature?

Mojo
21st November 2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by SkepticJ
It's such a problem because if Adam had worthless nipples then god created Adam with a feature that is not consistant with intelligent creation; thus god is lying.
Or not very intelligent.

Thumper
21st November 2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by SkepticJ
What is the name of the heresy where one asks if Adam had nipples? It's such a problem because if Adam had worthless nipples then god created Adam with a feature that is not consistant with intelligent creation; thus god is lying. or If Adam didn't have nipples then he wasn't the same as us and thus how do we have his sin nature?

Well,... why would a physical difference between Adam and us mean that we do not receive a share of his original sin?

A side question... who cares about his nipples, did he have a belly button?

:)

MalvernHills
22nd November 2004, 03:59 AM
"Omphalogical" is the term used to describe the argument about belly buttons (or the lack of them) not sure if there's an equivalent for the presence or otherwise of nipples.... pointless might be a good one.

See "Did Adam and Eve have Navels" (Martin Gardner) for more.

Johnny Pneumatic
22nd November 2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by MalvernHills
"Omphalogical" is the term used to describe the argument about belly buttons (or the lack of them) not sure if there's an equivalent for the presence or otherwise of nipples.... pointless might be a good one.

See "Did Adam and Eve have Navels" (Martin Gardner) for more.

Is that a apologetic book? I hate apologetics. I might just have to force myself to read it and debunk it; and yes that is the word I couldn't remember.

Mr Clingford
22nd November 2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by SkepticJ
Is that a apologetic book? I hate apologetics. I might just have to force myself to read it and debunk it; and yes that is the word I couldn't remember. As far as I am aware the answer is no. I have read his Annotated Alice in Wonderland - excellent!

(my spelling!)

Lisa Simpson
22nd November 2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by SkepticJ
Is that a apologetic book? I hate apologetics. I might just have to force myself to read it and debunk it; and yes that is the word I couldn't remember.

I'm reading that book. Interesting book on all sorts topics--alien abduction, Heaven's Gate cult, sCAM, etc.

Art Vandelay
23rd November 2004, 12:04 AM
A question can't be heretical, even though many Christians claim otherwise.

Jellby
23rd November 2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by SkepticJ
Originally posted by MalvernHills
See "Did Adam and Eve have Navels" (Martin Gardner) for more.
Is that a apologetic book?

Has Martin Gardner written any apologetic book?

Excuse me, I don't know all of his work and way of thinking, maybe he has, but from the little I've read and the recent 90th birthday postcard flood sponsored by Randi himself, I tend to think he would never do that...

Skeptical Greg
23rd November 2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Art Vandelay
A question can't be heretical, even though many Christians claim otherwise.

You must note the difference between:


" To question .. "

and

" A question.. " ;)


It is my understanding, when it comes to religion, asking questions is against the rules.

Mr Clingford
23rd November 2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
It is my understanding, when it comes to religion, asking questions is against the rules. Perhaps, then, your understanding is a bit faulty, as asking questions has a place in the religion I have come across.

Eleatic Stranger
23rd November 2004, 04:33 PM
Ah, but does getting answers also have a place?

How about asking the same questions a second time after not getting answers the first?

Nex
23rd November 2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Eleatic Stranger
...

How about asking the same questions a second time after not getting answers the first?
Doing that got me kicked out of bible class... :p

Mr Clingford
24th November 2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Eleatic Stranger
Ah, but does getting answers also have a place?

How about asking the same questions a second time after not getting answers the first? I generally haven't received good answers unless, they have been 'try working it out yourself' or 'there isn't an answer!'.

I don't eny you, either, Nex, being strangled by that dirt old belt