Traduction

[WaterD]

agree that the claim cannot be accepted under the contest rules, but if the porpouse of randy is instead look for some paranormal event, then i would give some attention to the matter. The point is that i did hear and read several times that people minds, focusing on affect a random event bring a difference of 1% or 2% in favor of the result the people where thinking about, and this after numeros test. I'm very sceptikal, still i'm open that something could exist in that matter. I mean if one wants to know if that claim is true, it requieres a hard work, but what if it's true?

yo acepto que lo alegado no puede ser aceptada bajo las reglas de Beth, pero si el proposito de randy es encontrar algo paranormal, entonces yo le prestaria mas atencion al asunto. el punto es que he escuchado y leido en varios lugares relativamente serios, que las mentes de varias personas enfocandose en favorecer un resultado, de dos posibles resultados aleatorios, puede llegar a alterar las chances en 1% o 2% aproximadamente, obviamente probando esto en numerosos test y analisis. Soy esceptico, pero estoy abierto a que esta clase de cosas si pueden ser reales. Pero para saber si esta clase de cosas es real o no, ahi que hacer una investigacion muy dura, pero que tal si es verdad?

[Czarcasm]

You may not have a good grasp of the English language due to your national origin, but can you not at least look at the top of this page and see that the man's name is "James Randi", not "randy"?

[rppa]

Originally posted by WaterD
agree that the claim cannot be accepted under the contest rules, but if the porpouse of randy is instead look for some paranormal event, then i would give some attention to the matter. The point is that i did hear and read several times that people minds, focusing on affect a random event bring a difference of 1% or 2% in favor of the result the people where thinking about, and this after numeros test. I'm very sceptikal, still i'm open that something could exist in that matter. I mean if one wants to know if that claim is true, it requieres a hard work, but what if it's true?

yo acepto que lo alegado no puede ser aceptada bajo las reglas de Beth, pero si el proposito de randy...

I agree with czarcasm: anota bien que el nombre es James Randi. Please spell Mr. Randi's name correctly. Thank you.

Now as to your specific points:

...es encontrar algo paranormal, entonces yo le prestaria mas atencion al asunto.

You agree that Beth's rules are not acceptable but if Randi's purpose is to show something paranormal, then the claim should be treated seriously (and a fair attempt made to devise a paranormal test).

I agree. I wouldn't say his purpose is to prove the paranormal, but to devise an experiment in which success can only be achieved by paranormal means. The goal also is such that the claimant agrees that the test is one their powers can pass, if they exist.

el punto es que he escuchado y leido en varios lugares relativamente serios, que las mentes de varias personas enfocandose en favorecer un resultado, de dos posibles resultados aleatorios, puede llegar a alterar las chances en 1% o 2% aproximadamente,

You have read in various "relatively serious sources" that people by focusing their minds have been able to alter probabilities by approximately 1-2%.

Yes, many gamblers believe they have this power. At least one is making that claim on this board.

I think it should be possible to devise a test under Randi's rules to test this claim.

obviamente probando esto en numerosos test y analisis.

"obviously proving this with numerous tests and analysis".

Here you are going to meet with a lot of skepticism unless you can provide citations of this numerical proof. What are your "lugares relativemente serios"? It is not obvious to us at all that these analyses have taken place. We agree that they SHOULD do such numerical tests. We don't think they HAVE done them. (Estamos en acuerdo que DEBEN hacer estos analisis, pero no pensamos que HAN hacerlos.)

Soy esceptico, pero estoy abierto a que esta clase de cosas si pueden ser reales. Pero para saber si esta clase de cosas es real o no, ahi que hacer una investigacion muy dura, pero que tal si es verdad?

Again you ask whether this class of "paranormal powers", being able to make tiny changes in probabilities, are deserving of rigorous investigation to see if they are real.

I'd say of course. I'd ask those with longer JREF experience to comment on whether there have been other claimants with such modest claims, and what sort of protocol was devised.