The Transition of Death and Birth

[Nolan Coppenger]

As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body, while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency. Upon completion of this process the body “dies� and commences to decay: molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules, cells disintegrate, putrefaction sets in, and the remnants of the body are slowly re-assimilated into nature.

Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit. These seed atoms carry with them the sum total of all the experiences of life, encoded in their atomic structure and vibrational frequency. As they ascend to the spiritual realm as a unique molecule that becomes part of the universal structure of the Godhead. All life experiences are conveyed to the Godhead and serve to increase the infinite gnosis, bringing the Godhead one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step to increasing perfection.

When the life-molecule’s encoded experiences are passed into the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated. They may return to the physical realm in another guise or may remain part of the infinite. Rarely do the same three atoms return to the physical realm, for infinite combinations of seed atoms gives rise to infinite combinations of experience. Newness is preferable to oldness; innovation is preferable to repetition.

Thus, many may share similar memories of “past lives�. These are but shadow-memories that do not belong to the new soul but to all souls, being one with the Godhead.

[geni]

Total number of natualy occuring elements is about 92. Total number of unique three atom combinations = 778688 not all of wich are going to be chemicaly stable. Your theory fails to take this into account and therefore fails.

[Rob Lister]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body, while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency. Upon completion of this process the body “dies� and commences to decay: molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules, cells disintegrate, putrefaction sets in, and the remnants of the body are slowly re-assimilated into nature.

Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit. These seed atoms carry with them the sum total of all the experiences of life, encoded in their atomic structure and vibrational frequency. As they ascend to the spiritual realm as a unique molecule that becomes part of the universal structure of the Godhead. All life experiences are conveyed to the Godhead and serve to increase the infinite gnosis, bringing the Godhead one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step to increasing perfection.

When the life-molecule’s encoded experiences are passed into the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated. They may return to the physical realm in another guise or may remain part of the infinite. Rarely do the same three atoms return to the physical realm, for infinite combinations of seed atoms gives rise to infinite combinations of experience. Newness is preferable to oldness; innovation is preferable to repetition.

Thus, many may share similar memories of “past lives�. These are but shadow-memories that do not belong to the new soul but to all souls, being one with the Godhead.

Please provide evidence for your assertions.

[Cosmo]

Originally posted by Rob Lister
Please provide evidence for your assertions.

Agreed. And, while you're at it, perhaps you could expand upon what happens in the case of sudden death - heart attack, stroke, hit by a bus? Sounds like the "seed atoms" won't have much time to prepare.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body, while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency. Upon completion of this process the body “dies� and commences to decay: molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules, cells disintegrate, putrefaction sets in, and the remnants of the body are slowly re-assimilated into nature.

Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit. These seed atoms carry with them the sum total of all the experiences of life, encoded in their atomic structure and vibrational frequency. As they ascend to the spiritual realm as a unique molecule that becomes part of the universal structure of the Godhead. All life experiences are conveyed to the Godhead and serve to increase the infinite gnosis, bringing the Godhead one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step to increasing perfection.

When the life-molecule’s encoded experiences are passed into the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated. They may return to the physical realm in another guise or may remain part of the infinite. Rarely do the same three atoms return to the physical realm, for infinite combinations of seed atoms gives rise to infinite combinations of experience. Newness is preferable to oldness; innovation is preferable to repetition.

Thus, many may share similar memories of “past lives�. These are but shadow-memories that do not belong to the new soul but to all souls, being one with the Godhead.

lol

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit.There are too many unexplained assumptions here to even begin addressing the topic. The above passage, I think, encapsulates most of them.

Would you please explain what basis and in what context your post was made? As it is, it is too ambiguous, given that taken literally, it is nonsensical.

[KingMerv00]

Neat. I like chemistry.

How many protons, neutrons, and electrons do the seed atoms have? Are there any stable isotopes/ions? Are they radioactive? Do they make compounds like mental-emotional or spirtual-mental?

I'm sure the Nobel Prize will be arriving shortly.

But in the words of Penn: "Who needs that Stockholm piece of crap?"

[neutrino_cannon]

Assuming that the three atoms are copied into the godhead verbatim, as they would appear a most efficient means of data storage, then the godhead would have three atoms for every one of the approximately 106 billion people who ever existed.

Assuming random atomic distribution of the three atoms in "seed atoms", the molar mass of each atom would be about 106 (probably higher, but I just took the molar mass of palladium, which is half of 92 at number 46. Such intellectual laziness is why clan cannon will never reproduce for reasons explained below) grams per mole, or .106 kg/mol. That means the godhead is about 6*10^-8 grams.

:p

How is that infinite?

Now, assuming the maximum number of life-atoms, three for each person and no recombination, there is an upper maximum of 3.18*10^11 total soul atoms and about 3.2*10^32 possible iterations thereof. If I was really slick, I'd tell you how long we'd last at current population growth rates before exhausting all possible combinations, but I only know a few folks who are that slick (they get an amazing amount of tail), so I won't even try. It's a really, really big number of years, I can tell you that much. Anything with a two-digit positive integer as an exponent is a fearsome beast indeed.

Where it gets interesting is your assertion that the odd repeated soul atom can create shadow memories. I'm certainly unaware of any mechanism whereby the human nervous system can interact to form memories with single molecules or atoms. Naturally, any guy with a nervous system that sensitive would be able to get loads of booty without even trying.

There is the related problem of how all the memories get on the life-molecule, to use your parlance, in the first place. I would suspect any machination capable of encoding information with the subtlety and precision your system requires would run into fundamental quantum (gasp! the forbidden word!) mechanics difficulty, even assuming very forgiving atoms. I also posit that anyone in possession of a system of chemical manipulation so meticulous and precise would be getting a killer amount of action at night.

I also bring up the question of what happens to those who die in situations of large electrostatic force. The force of attraction could easily waylay the ascending life-molecules, preventing their check in with the ole godhead, and thus squandering a whole life's worth of experiences on account of being stuck to one of those stupid Sharper Image ionizers. No doubt, anyone with suck poor luck has no record of exciting horizontal sports anywhere on their life-molecule.

On a related note, what happens when these life-molecules (which I will tentatively equivocate with souls) encounter large clouds of fluorine, or are struck by cosmic rays, or otherwise run into anything that could potentially screw up the carefully recorded data they carry? Is the godhead kept far enough away from such inconveniences to avoid damage to itself? If so, then how do the life-molecules reach it? How are the life-molecules transcribed without damage to the existing godhead? How does the godhead remain chemically stable with the constant additions? At what temperature is it stable? Ice-cold frigid temperature? Oxygen-solidifyingly cold temperatures? Decently warm-suitable-for-doing-naughty-things-in-the-bedroom temperatures?

You mention that the atoms of the body reduce in vibrational frequency. I can only assume that this refers to temperature, and this statement would be incorrect in the case of people who are burned to death, like witches. You mention the death of the body, which isn't applicable to Elvis. You mention the re-assimilation of the body's constituent parts into nature, which isn't applicable to people who get totally destroyed by ninjas. Finally, you state that the three seed atoms increase in vibrational frequency immediatly before the person dies. This isn't applicable to James Bond because he either:

a) Never dies.
Or
b) Dies while engaging in ridiculous amounts of hot sex (see You only Live Twice), and is therefore too exhausted to increase the vibrational [sic] frequency of anything.

Based on these errors I posit:

-You come from a place that fights over ridiculously small and unimportant things, like a .06 microgram godhead.

-You exaggerate accounts of the size and impotence... er... importance of said "godhead" due to insecurity.

-You claim to be far more sensitive than you actually are.

-You pride yourself on "sensitive machines", useful for "god-head manipulation". Because it sounds like most people die at an adult age in your country, these are advertised as "sensitive adult vibrational manipulators".

-You don't have Sharper Image where you live, and you don't have any electrostatic phenomena, including lightning.

-The Chemistry budget was slashed recently.

-You aren't familiar with Elvis, James Bond, or burning witches to death.

-Nobody from where you're from gets any action. Ever. Alternatively, your entire nation is one big orgy.

Based on my excellent education on Backward Foreign Parts of the World still Unassimilated, the standard American High School class on the subject, I am forced to the regrettable conclusion that you're French.


:D
(accipere fora)

[Cosmo]

Brilliant, neutrino. Sheer brilliance. :D

[Trinity]

Excuse me, but is not the soul a graviton? I am sure somebody said that.

Trinity

[Oleron]

Nice one NC.:D - the cannon fires again!

You should title your essay "How I disproved the godhead and got lots of hot action, without really trying."


BTW does anyone know what Nolan means when he says, "molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules"? Is he trying to suggest some kind of intermolecular vibrational bond type? I thought vibration was exactly the sort of thing that breaks bonds, not makes them.

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Oleron
Nice one NC.:D - the cannon fires again!

You should title your essay "How I disproved the godhead and got lots of hot action, without really trying."


BTW does anyone know what Nolan means when he says, "molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules"? Is he trying to suggest some kind of intermolecular vibrational bond type? I thought vibration was exactly the sort of thing that breaks bonds, not makes them.

The model I was tought in school, not six months ago *directs eyes skyward and mutters*, is that covalent bonds can be described as springs, the more energy, the more heat, the more the spring streteches. Eventually, you can have enough heat that a spontaneous (or other, we never got really far in this part) change in chemical layout is possible, which could mean a reaction or just having the molecule disintigrate.

Most chemistry is altered by temperature, and there are various arrangements unstable above and below certain temperatures. Fascinating stuff.

[Oleron]

Ah but Nolan isn't talking about INTRAmolecular bonds. He is talking about INTERmolecular bonds.

In all cases I can think of(solid,liquid,gas), increased energy (heat) means more disorder and a corresponding increase in vibrational energy.

So what exactly is a "vibrational bond"? I think Nolan ought to go and learn some basic physics before he spouts his next theory.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Oleron
Ah but Nolan isn't talking about INTRAmolecular bonds. He is talking about INTERmolecular bonds.

*snip* Seriously, I fear that Nolan has not the slightest idea what he is talking about.....

Hans

[Rob Lister]

Originally posted by Trinity
Excuse me, but is not the soul a graviton? I am sure somebody said that.

Trinity

I'm sure somebody said it too.

[Oleron]

Originally posted by Trinity
Excuse me, but is not the soul a graviton? I am sure somebody said that.

Trinity

I wouldn't know what a graviton was, even if it fell on me....

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body, while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency. Upon completion of this process the body “dies� and commences to decay: molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules, cells disintegrate, putrefaction sets in, and the remnants of the body are slowly re-assimilated into nature.

Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit. These seed atoms carry with them the sum total of all the experiences of life, encoded in their atomic structure and vibrational frequency. As they ascend to the spiritual realm as a unique molecule that becomes part of the universal structure of the Godhead. All life experiences are conveyed to the Godhead and serve to increase the infinite gnosis, bringing the Godhead one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step to increasing perfection.

When the life-molecule’s encoded experiences are passed into the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated. They may return to the physical realm in another guise or may remain part of the infinite. Rarely do the same three atoms return to the physical realm, for infinite combinations of seed atoms gives rise to infinite combinations of experience. Newness is preferable to oldness; innovation is preferable to repetition.

Thus, many may share similar memories of “past lives�. These are but shadow-memories that do not belong to the new soul but to all souls, being one with the Godhead.

Hooooboy.


How can we detect a mental atom?
How can we detect an emotional atom?
How can we detect a spiritual atom?
What frequency (in Hertz) do they vibrate at before death?
What frequency (in Hertz) do they vibrate at when approaching death?
Can this frequency (in Hertz) be measured?
If not, how do you know that the frequency changes at all?
If not, how do you know that there is a frequency at all?
How can we verify that there is a realm of the spirit?
How do you know that the seed atoms carry with them the total of all experiences of life?
Can you explain how this information is encoded in their atomic structure?
How do these seed atoms "ascend" to this spiritual realm?
Can you describe the molecular structure of this unique molecule in terms of protons, neutrons and electrons?
What is the "Godhead"?
How do we detect this "Godhead"?
How are all the life experiences "conveyed" to the Godhead?
How can an infinitesimal step be the same as an infinitely large step?
Isn't "increasing perfection" an oxymoron? Something either is perfect or isn't.
How do you know that after the information has been conveyed to the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated?
When do they return to the physical realm?
When do they not return to the physical realm?
Why?
How can a finite number of atoms provide an infinite number of variations?
Why is newness preferable to oldness?
Why is innovation preferable to repetition?
Who decided this?
How do you know that any of this is true?


This list of questions will not go away.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Oleron
I wouldn't know what a graviton was, even if it fell on me.... I think Trinity is referring to a former member here who had a world-view that was evey bit as wacky as Nolan's but centered around gravitons (a graviton is the hypothetical quantum particle mediating gravity).

Long time past, now....

Hans

[Anders]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body, while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency.
[snip]
Eh, what three seed atoms?

And regarding the rest of the text...

:dl:

[Rob Lister]

Originally posted by Oleron
I wouldn't know what a graviton was, even if it fell on me....

I, for one, got that joke.

[Oleron]

Originally posted by Rob Lister
I, for one, got that joke.

It's nice to be appreciated! ;)

Sorry Hans, couldn't resist it.

[Nolan Coppenger]

Seed Atoms
Seed atoms are not as the physicists define atoms. Seed atoms
are in the world but not of the world. This is a mystery to some,
an article of faith for others. Seed atoms are the mustard seed
of consciousness. Seed atoms are the mustard seed of spirit.
Seed atoms were created by God at the birth of the universe.

Heart Seed Atom
The Heart Seed Atom is the spiritual source of emotion.

Mental Seed Atom
The Mental Seed Atom is the spiritual source of intellect.

Physical Seed Atom
The Physical Seed Atom is the spiritual source of the material.

Vibrations
When the Masters speak of vibration, they speak not of
oscillation. Vibration is not oscillation. Vibration is attunement of
the spirit. Spirit attuned to base things begets low vibration.
Spirit attuned to higher things begets high vibration. "As above,
so below."

Akashic Records
All life produces vibration. Like a phonograph record, life's
vibrations are etched into the ether. These etched vibrations
are the Akashic Records. Initiates who attain sufficient spiritual
vibration may hear these records as thoughts.
See also thought forms.

Consciousness
Consciousness is the outer expression of spirit. All creation is
conscious. All creation is one with the mind of God. "As above,
so below."

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
When the Masters speak of ...The who now? Got a source here somewhere?

[DarkMagician]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
Seed Atoms
Seed atoms are not as the physicists define atoms. Seed atoms
are in the world but not of the world.This is where the materialists stop caring.

[Kitty Chan]

Being bored right now I did a surf for seed atoms and found this link

http://www.rosicrucian.com/scs/scseng01.htm#Chapter_V

The Silver Cord and the Seed Atom

It explains evolution, God and how the horses can solve math problems and will go to their next stage which is human in the Jupiter period.

I think he should get a gold star for including absolutely everyone and everything!

For instance I bet no one knew this:

"The Venusians worked with the masses of earth mankind, fostering the plastic arts and teaching the lessons of love, beauty, and harmony."

But it does warn the reader to use proper caution so dont say I didnt warn you . . . ;)

[Dancing David]

Why would there be a distinction between the tree atoms in the first place, theya are all equivalent and fall into the same categories.

Hmm, I suspect an arbitrary a priori construct here, why is there no digestion atom, or sex atom?

It is a great theroy and has many competitors, who are all equivalent.

[Iacchus]

Reincarnation? (http://www.dionysus.org/x0008.html#4)

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Who knew vibrations were so important?

Well, I guess the Beach Boys did.

~~ Paul

[Ladewig]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
Vibrations
When the Masters speak of vibration, they speak not of
oscillation.

Why do people who think they've discovered a higher plane of existence speak not with contractions? Are contractions too base for enlightened being?


Vibration is not oscillation. Vibration is attunement of the spirit. Spirit attuned to base things begets low vibration.
Spirit attuned to higher things begets high vibration. "As above,
so below."

Phew. I suspected that people vaporized by atomic blasts were vibrating at frequencies far too high to ever measure.

Akashic Records
All life produces vibration. Like a phonograph record, life's
vibrations are etched into the ether.

Hold on a second. "Vibratations are not oscillations" is in direct contradiction with "Like a phonograph record, life's vibrations are etched into the ether." I suspect that what you mean is that "Life is like a compact disc."

But irregardless, if the vibrations are etched into the ether, why do the special atoms need to ascend to the spiritual to rejoin the Godhead?



These etched vibrations are the Akashic Records. Initiates who attain sufficient spiritual vibration may hear these records as thoughts.

And people who don't take their meds may also hear these spiritual vibrations.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Dear, Nolan Coppenger,

You may find it frustrating to lay this theory before people claiming to be skeptics and find that it is ridiculed instead of admired. Please keep in mind that if one generates a theory:
- in which dozens of words are given new definitions with no substantiation for such definitions,
- in which there is no experiment or observation that can prove or disprove the theory,
- that has absolutely no predictive value and no practical value for understanding anything, (n.b. saying it is good to think good thoughts and good to feel good feelings has no practical value)

then one should expect a certain amount of ribbing from people who are not prepared to lap up psuedo-spritual nonsense.

Also, note that if you have evidence to back up any of this stuff, the people who mocked you will gladly consider it and if it is found to be useful, they will stop with the joking and teasing.

[Correa Neto]

Oh dear...

One more joins JREF team of prophets, enlightened persons, creators of new religions and philosphies...

Franko

Navigator

Lifegazer

Nolan

[seayakin]

Can I get naming rights on the three atoms?

Mo-dium
Larry-dium
Curly-dium

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Correa Neto
Oh dear...

One more joins JREF team of prophets, enlightened persons, creators of new religions and philosphies...

Franko

Navigator

Lifegazer

Nolan

Silence!

There is no troll but Franko and Wraith is his sock puppet!

[The Mighty Thor]

Who knew vibrations were so important?

Well, I guess the Beach Boys did.

~~ Paul

Weren't they on the Akashic Records Label?:)

Why do I get the feeling that to learn to "read" these records, some bozo has to pay a Master some money?

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Dancing David
*snip*
why is there no... sex atom?
*snip*

What he/she/other said!

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
Seed Atoms
Seed atoms are not as the physicists define atoms. Seed atoms
are in the world but not of the world. This is a mystery to some,
an article of faith for others. Seed atoms are the mustard seed
of consciousness. Seed atoms are the mustard seed of spirit.
Seed atoms were created by God at the birth of the universe.

Heart Seed Atom
The Heart Seed Atom is the spiritual source of emotion.

Mental Seed Atom
The Mental Seed Atom is the spiritual source of intellect.

Physical Seed Atom
The Physical Seed Atom is the spiritual source of the material.

Vibrations
When the Masters speak of vibration, they speak not of
oscillation. Vibration is not oscillation. Vibration is attunement of
the spirit. Spirit attuned to base things begets low vibration.
Spirit attuned to higher things begets high vibration. "As above,
so below."

Akashic Records
All life produces vibration. Like a phonograph record, life's
vibrations are etched into the ether. These etched vibrations
are the Akashic Records. Initiates who attain sufficient spiritual
vibration may hear these records as thoughts.
See also thought forms.

Consciousness
Consciousness is the outer expression of spirit. All creation is
conscious. All creation is one with the mind of God. "As above,
so below."


Where did you come up with this bunch of hooey?

Is there any evidence for any of this, or is it merely a fantasy, designed to comfort people who can't deal with reality?

[uruk]

Akashic Records
All life produces vibration. Like a phonograph record, life's
vibrations are etched into the ether. These etched vibrations
are the Akashic Records. Initiates who attain sufficient spiritual
vibration may hear these records as thoughts.
See also thought forms.

Damn!!! And I just got rid of my phono player. I knew I was going to need it for something! Just last night I told my wife not to get rid of it. I said that our seed atoms were going to need it to play Akashic records. But she said she could'nt dance to that kind of music. Drat!

[uruk]

I googled Akashic Records and found this:
http://www.edgarcayce.org/about_ec/cayce_on/akashic/

So Nolan is either an Edgar Cacye nut sack or he's totaly screwd the Hindu pooch into some aberrant mutation. Either way he is a new-age loose hinge. He should be cozey with Iaachus.

[Gestahl]

Holy crippity crap... this is too much! I don't even know where to start... the beginning?

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
As the person approaches death, the three seed atoms increase their vibrational frequency in preparation of departing the body,


Why three seed atoms? What is the vibrational frequency, and how does it relate to what we can observe?


while, simultaneously, the atoms of the body begin to decrease their vibrational frequency. Upon completion of this process the body “dies� and commences to decay: molecules break their vibrational bonds with other molecules, cells disintegrate, putrefaction sets in, and the remnants of the body are slowly re-assimilated into nature.


First there are no "vibrational bonds" between molecules. They are electro-magnetic. Second, the status of their connections remains largely unchanged after death itself. I will not even start into the gross misunderstanding of the decomposition of the human body. (Hint: it doesn't degrade simply because life leaves it, it degrades because of other living things).


Upon completion of death and the commencement of physical decay, the three seed atoms – mental, emotional, and spiritual – are assimilated into the realm of the spirit. These seed atoms carry with them the sum total of all the experiences of life, encoded in their atomic structure and vibrational frequency.


I am assuming that you have detailed explanations of the structure and frequencies of these "atoms"... where is this spiritual realm... in the spiritual atom?


As they ascend to the spiritual realm as a unique molecule that becomes part of the universal structure of the Godhead. All life experiences are conveyed to the Godhead and serve to increase the infinite gnosis, bringing the Godhead one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step to increasing perfection.


Oh Fred... not another Omega Point nut... And note that jewel of a statement "one infinitesimal yet infinitely large step." Me thinks he has Zeno horribly confused in that little mind.


When the life-molecule’s encoded experiences are passed into the Godhead, the three seed atoms are separated. They may return to the physical realm in another guise or may remain part of the infinite. Rarely do the same three atoms return to the physical realm, for infinite combinations of seed atoms gives rise to infinite combinations of experience. Newness is preferable to oldness; innovation is preferable to repetition.


OK, we have a spiritual realm and a physical realm... is there a separate emotional realm to go with that third "seed atom"?


Thus, many may share similar memories of “past lives�. These are but shadow-memories that do not belong to the new soul but to all souls, being one with the Godhead.

I have deja vu too, but I don't make a metaphysical system out of it...

What a refreshing read to lighten my work day. I think I want to make a crazy metaphysical system:

(to be spoken on a dark, new moon night, around a campfire, with suitable chants and solemness for a religious story)...



We are of the twain, my friends. In the twain we are separated, yet combined to make the Ultimate Paradox that is the Reality. Randomness and Order are but another twain, and the solution to the paradox therein is both paradoxical reality that exists and the twain that cannot combine.

One twining is the death/life twining. This illustrates the ineffable combination and separation of a Duality, the mental and the physical. The reality we know in life is of the contradictory combination of the mental/physical. Death is the separation of the amalgam that is us. And when we dig deeper, this is but a relection of the ultimate duality, body is order, mind is chaos. We try to bring order to the mind, but only confuse. Our minds create chaos for our bodies, but they remain in order.

Death is but the separation of the order and the chaos. The mind is the chaos that keeps the body going, the body the chaos that keeps the mind going. In the death of all things with all the twinings be completely rent asunder, and all will be no more. When Order and Chaos are separated, the Universe will be no more.


A complete idiots guide to coming up with mystical sounding ***** to impress idiots:

1) Choose hard/novel words with simple meanings such as twining, amalgam, and duality above. Avoid those with accepted philosophical, religious, or scientific meaning. The OP made this error with using "atoms". If he had called them essential seeds (as in seeds of essence), it would be better.

2) Make vague sweeping generaliztions using this specialized vocabulary.

3) Break everything down to 2 or 3 categories... with 4 categories we must remember 4 concepts and 6 relationships... just above what most people can keep in their head at one time. I recommend duality, because paradox and duality are associated with Zen, and somehow that is seen as a particularly erudite and wise philosphy.

4) Randomly capitalize words, especially the hard/novel ones you chose. (Also works for fundamentalist religious statements).

5) Remember, everything connects with everything else, and everything fits in your simplistic framework.

6) Try to couch your terms in science, but make vague statements that cannot be falsified or verified.

7) Pull quotes from idealist philosophers... they often make statements that are quite strange and may support your weird notions when taken out of philosophical context.

8) Insert "the" before your hijacked "special words." I.e. "the Order and the Chaos are the twining of the Reality."

9) Somehow insinuate that paradox and impossibility are somehow required for consistency and possibility to work, or other such blatantly (i.e. definitionally) false, but poetic statements.

[Gestahl]

Whoops... DP.

[uruk]

A complete idiots guide to coming up with mystical sounding ***** to impress idiots:
Don't forget:
This world is not real. So I don't have to pay taxes

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by Nolan Coppenger
Seed Atoms
Seed atoms are not as the physicists define atoms. Seed atoms
are in the world but not of the world. This is a mystery to some,
an article of faith for others.

..and semantic gibberish to most. Can they be detected, or can't they?


Seed atoms are the mustard seed
of consciousness. Seed atoms are the mustard seed of spirit.


Seed atoms can be finely ground and mixed with vinegar, as a condiment for pretzels, wontons and corndogs.


Seed atoms were created by God at the birth of the universe.

How do you know this? Please realize that we are not privy to your source of wisdom, so we have no way of independently verifying this fact. Are you asking us to trust that you are correct? If so, should we also trust health advice and financial advice from random anonymous people on internet chat boards?


Heart Seed Atom
The Heart Seed Atom is the spiritual source of emotion.

How do you know this?


Mental Seed Atom
The Mental Seed Atom is the spiritual source of intellect.

How do you know this?


Physical Seed Atom
The Physical Seed Atom is the spiritual source of the material.

How do you know this?


Vibrations
When the Masters speak of vibration, they speak not of
oscillation. Vibration is not oscillation. Vibration is attunement of
the spirit.


Who are these masters, and why do they use words with well-established meanings to mean something else? Why not say "attunement" if "attunement" is meant?


Spirit attuned to base things begets low vibration.
Spirit attuned to higher things begets high vibration. "As above,
so below."


Since "atoms" are not atoms, and "vibration" is not vibration, what sense am I supposed to make of such terms as "high", "low", "base", "above", "below"? What is "spirit" for that matter?



Akashic Records
All life produces vibration. Like a phonograph record, life's
vibrations are etched into the ether.


A phonograph record produces oscillations. Since vibration is not oscillation, I don't understand your metaphor. As for "ether", it's existence was disproven almost 100 years ago. Unless you mean something totally different that you are choosing to call by a name already loaded with other definitions.