Anti-Gay “informal� Exorcism

[Scot C. Trypal]

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/10263482.htm

Police are investigating an informal exorcism at the Cathedral of St. Paul, which was directed at gay Roman Catholics and will cost thousands of dollars to clean up, police and church officials said.

Exorcisms are messy, expensively messy.

Hey, I know a group that has a stereotype that would come in handy in cleaning up such a dreadful mess, and making the cathedral fabulous again.

I wonder how this was supposed to affect the gay Catholics? What were the “informal� exorcists thinking? Are the demons in the gays just supposed to leave and they’ll be gay no more, or maybe an anti-gay invisible barrier at the cathedral door? It's an odd world.

[Kopji]

Fortunately, donations by gay Catholics can be applied toward cleaning up the protests against them.

The holy water and salt are as hard for me to understand as gays who lend their support to organizations ultimately dedicated to eradicating them.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Kopji
Fortunately, donations by gay Catholics can be applied toward cleaning up the protests against them.

The holy water and salt are as hard for me to understand as gays who lend their support to organizations ultimately dedicated to eradicating them.

They are human. They are humans that are believers. They want "in" on the religion, ceremonies, and community. They want to be treated as humans. They hope that someday people will stop trying to tell each other that homosexuals are evil abominations.

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Believers believe, and they believe homosexuals are evil, possessed, etc. Homosexuals want them to change what they are by nature. Homosexuals want them to accept what homosexuals are by nature.

Catch 22.

And from all that I've read and seen in anatomy classe, I full believe that homosexuals were born that way, from what I've learned.

Their hypothalmus is different. They react to the "wrong" human pheremones. The VNO lobes detects the pheremones, the brain reacts to the wrong pheremones.

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/human_pheromones.htm

Homophobe Beleivers don't want to learn that, cause that might make them believe such "blasphemy". Satan will fill their heads and make them accept evil, blah blah.

Holy water and salt? What, you haven't read the manual on exorcism yet?

[Loon]

Originally posted by Scot C. Trypal
I wonder how this was supposed to affect the gay Catholics? What were the “informal� exorcists thinking? Are the demons in the gays just supposed to leave and they’ll be gay no more, or maybe an anti-gay invisible barrier at the cathedral door? It's an odd world.

Not sure what they were thinking about the gays, if anything at all. I get the impression that this was an action against the gays. Or against the "impurity" that they brought to the church.

[Scot C. Trypal]

Originally posted by Loon
Not sure what they were thinking about the gays, if anything at all. I get the impression that this was an action against the gays. Or against the "impurity" that they brought to the church.

Ya godda wonder. After overlooking the oddity and considering it plainly, I don’t think it was meant to do anything supernatural; I think it was more likely a message, like a horse head in your bead.

Eos, you hit the nail on the head. We have gay friends who were devoutly catholic and it would hurt them a great deal to give up religion, but what are they to do? Thank their God the Episcopals (aka Catholic Light :) ) are a very decent group of believers and are there for them in their new religious life.

On the other side I know those who find their orthodox version of religion much more important than companionship. They’d live a celibate life (anonymous encounters followed by a lot of guilt doesn’t count), and become anti-gay activists before they’d admit, say, that Joseph Smith was not God’s prophet.

Our local talk radio is up in arms over this exorcism incident; they think it will lead to hate crimes for religious services… I guess the host didn’t notice that this was a expensive crime against a church.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Scot C. Trypal

Eos, you hit the nail on the head. We have gay friends who were devoutly catholic and it would hurt them a great deal to give up religion, but what are they to do? Thank their God the Episcopals (aka Catholic Light :) ) are a very decent group of believers and are there for them in their new religious life.

Our local talk radio is up in arms over this exorcism incident; they think it will lead to hate crimes for religious services… I guess the host didn’t notice that this was a expensive crime against a church.

Yes, even though I am not myself religious, I do understand how it helps others with the social community and such. It's better than being alone and depressed. I only get upset when there is this kind of negative activism. A little dose of reality along with the religion would keep everything a little saner. The church folk need to change their thinking on the homosexual issue. I would rather have church going homosexuals than drug addicted/acoholic/depressed etc. homosexuals with no community to get involved with. Discrimation makes things worse, not homosexuals attending church services and ceremonies. They need to get their priorities straight and accept the fact that homosexuality is not some kind of paranormal possession. We are asking believers to take a dose of reality, sigh. Wishful thinking? Heck. I want to think that this can be resolved some day.

The local talk radio hey. Some dumb journalists that have it @ss backwards again. The church looks bad for discriminating though, and having people feel they need to perform exorcisms, even if nobody is sure who did it. Idon't see anywhere there was ever backlash against a church for this type of uproar. If anything, the homosexuals are the ones who see the violence.

[Kopji]

Not to sound uncaring, but the ritual "tools" of exorcism are created and endorsed by the Church, not disavowed by it. If gays are orthodox Catholic, well, this is part of being orthodox Catholic.

The exorcism damage was done by other Catholics, at least they sent the invitations to the party...

The machinery seems like it is doing what it was designed to do from the beginning- exclude rather than include.

...and I do understand the 'belief' thing, good points. I have a gay friend at work, his partner is an ex Mormon. Not "ex" by his choice, he was excommunicated for being what he is. He still has faith, but as an outcast. The social damage is something people write books and make lots of money over.