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a_unique_person
27th March 2003, 05:29 PM
Ah, yes, Compuserve. Heard about it but never could afford it. Or $800 per month to get instant stock prices.



How clever we thought ourselves when we convinced our 1200bps modem to connect to an electronic bulletin board - the forerunner of the internet - or to set up a packet-switching service on our phone that allowed us to log on to CompuServe in the United States.

It puts ISP charges into perspective when you consider that in 1990, when a dollar was worth substantially more than it is today, we paid $US39.95 ($A67. 76) to join CompuServe, and cheerfully spent $12.50 an hour for the privilege of downloading text messages. On top of that, it cost us another $34 an hour for the telephone connection.

We were actually grateful for the opportunity to cough up $506 for a 2400bps modem, which dramatically reduced the time we spent online. And although there were shareware communications programs, something like Microphone II for the Macintosh cost another $499.

Given that we had spent more than $12,000 on an 80286 PC and a laser printer, it seemed a genuine bargain. Those were the days when you paid $999 for a Commodore Amiga (512KB of RAM) and another $500 for the monitor. And a SoundBlaster sound card cost $399. By 1991, we were recommending as a minimum configuration an 80386 processor, 4MB of RAM and at least a 100MB hard drive to run Windows in its "enhanced" mode.

Telstra expected users to pay $800 a month for their Discovery Premium Money Watch service, which allowed the rich and the insane to check out stock prices. The slow videotext service, which provided access to online games, cost $60 a year and $15 a month, plus 15 to 20 cents a minute between 8am and 6pm. Searching OTC's Intelnet databases cost a $50 membership fee, $100 for "password maintenance", and a search that resulted in up to 10 titles of articles set you back $20. An abstract for any of the titles cost $3 extra.

When you consider what you get free on the web, you realise how much those services deserved to die. And Telstra apparently has not learnt any lessons from the experience.



http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/26/1048354635714.html

Denise
27th March 2003, 07:27 PM
I remember watching a talk show when the internet became available to the general public. The chatroom phenomenon began.

They had a panel of people on who spent 400 dollars a month on up to chat on the internet. It's easy to laugh at these people now, with such cheap internet access. For the record, I did laugh then.:D

jj
27th March 2003, 07:43 PM
First on-line service I ever used was "GE Mark 1 Timesharing".

You had your choice. Fortran II, Basic, or Algol 60. No real choice, Algol 60 all the way! There was no zippy-fast 1200 baud modem, either. It was current-loop, Model 33 teletype, paper tape, and ugly yellow paper. If I recall correctly, it was something like 9 character/second or thereabouts.

Now, everybody hit "Ctl-Shift-P" :D

Thumper
28th March 2003, 05:43 PM
My first computer class in highschool (1982) used punch cards on an old IBM mainframe. In the punchcard room, there was this awesome, new microcomputer called a TI-99/4A. All us geeks would work extra fast to get done with our FORTRAN programs so we could play games on the TI.

The next year we got Apple II's and we felt we were at the leading edge of educational computing.

My last year teaching HS (2002), my calculator had more RAM and computing power than my first computer, and it was much smaller!

Anyone remember the Timex computers that had like 1k RAM and a membrane keyboard? Yikes!

Ahhh yes, those were the days.

garys_2k
28th March 2003, 10:06 PM
OK, my computer history, as best as I can recall...

College was a CDC6400, used punch cards

First work was a PDP8, then a PDP11. Sixty-four K of RAM!

Next was an Apple ][+ at work

Then I got a KIM-1 at home, woo-hoo

Timex-Sinclair TS1000 was next at home - a huge improvement over the KIM, because it could use the TV and act like a real computer. Addons included a 64K RAMpack and a serial interface that worked with my surplus IDS Paper Tiger printer.

I then moved up to an Apple ][e at home - 128K and lots of colors!

I put the Apple online with Compuserve and I subscribed to Knowledge Index for important stuff. A 300 baud internal modem (no cheesy acoustic coupler for this boy!) with an option to take it to a screaming 1200, but that was too much money.

Next came an NCR IBM clone (green monochrome screen, two 360K floppy drives and I added a HUGE 30 meg hardcard). After that a 486, then a PII and on to several Athalons.

A long, strange trip it's been...

kedo1981
29th March 2003, 06:53 AM
I have one thing to say about early online computing
“The Code Of Hammer-a-be”

Captain_Snort
30th March 2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Thumper

Anyone remember the Timex computers that had like 1k RAM and a membrane keyboard? Yikes!

Ahhh yes, those were the days.

the sinclair ZX81 (Timex in the US) as it was called here, awesome computer, does the term

4/0

mean anything to you? that was the out of memory error, there are many ZX81 simulators out there.

I remember learning on PETS, they was nice

anyone checked EBAY for vintage computer stuff, some people will pay loads for it, I saw my 2nd ever comp (A Camputers Lynx, vintage 1982) went for £150 the other week, without the original packing and any software packages that I have.

garys_2k
30th March 2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Captain_Snort


the sinclair ZX81 (Timex in the US) as it was called here, awesome computer, does the term

4/0

mean anything to you? that was the out of memory error, there are many ZX81 simulators out there.


Oh, yeah, I did have the ZX81 version, imported to the U.S. for a while until the TS1000s came out. It had the special "U.S." TV modulator.

Do the simulators run as "fast" as the ZX machines? :) Remember the fast mode, where it would blank the screen? IIRC the CPU had to somehow write each scan line by sending strings of 1s and 0s to the modulator, and in "slow" mode there was a hardware interrupt that forced it to stop executing your code to do that.

I did learn Z80 assembly language with that box, too, as you could embed assembler code into the first program line (usually a REM statement) and call it with the USR command. I miss that old machine...