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Jedi Knight
28th March 2003, 10:55 AM
With America at war and our troops on the move fighting against the hostile forces of evil in Iraq, a New Jersey community recently banned yellow flowers (http://www.trentonian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7524241&BRD=1697&PAG=461&dept_id=502176&rfi=6), the traditional symbol of support for deployed US soldiers overseas.

In this radical leftist cultural terrorism against the will of Americans, some resident were clearly shocked:

quoted from the article: "I’m shocked and outraged," Johnson said. "I can’t believe the mayor would force me to take down ribbons put there in honor of American troops, fighting for our freedom in Iraq."

and this: "The whole thing absolutely gets me in my gut," Diane Johnson said. "I still can’t believe the mayor would be against this, and that the council would actually vote to get rid of the ribbons.

"As far as I know, we’re not a Gestapo police state," she said, "but they’re sure acting like it."

It is leftist cultural terrorism against Americans that seeks to provide sympathy for the terror Iraqi state while our soldiers are deployed overseas. It is shameful cultural terror and anti-American.

JK

Tmy
28th March 2003, 11:02 AM
I noticed you left out the mayors comments.

Basically its a slippery slope agrument. the mayor is concerned that if he allows one form then he wont be able to stop anyone else. For example hanging a nazi flag. If he does then its goverment content discrimination on free speech. I sort of feel for the guy. Its a damned if you do damned if you dont situation.

Denise
28th March 2003, 11:09 AM
How is it political to support the troops? Even the anti war protester say that they support the troops. Both sides wish that the troops come home safely.

Upchurch
28th March 2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Denise
How is it political to support the troops? Even if the vast majority are on one side of the issue, it's still a political issue.

Besides, I think the point here is that they aren't against people expressing their right to speak their minds, but by placing the ribbon on the "Welcome to ..." sign, Johnson was, in essence, attempting to speak for the whole town. Had she put it on her home or whatever, it won't be an issue.

jj
28th March 2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
With America at war and our troops on the move fighting against the hostile forces of evil in Iraq, a New Jersey community recently banned yellow flowers (http://www.trentonian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7524241&BRD=1697&PAG=461&dept_id=502176&rfi=6), the traditional symbol of support for deployed US soldiers overseas.


They didn NOT ban "Yellow flowers", they banned the placement of "Yellow Ribbons" (and blue, white, pinko, red, purple, chartruse, puce, or any other color ribbon, political statement, etc) on TOWNSHIP PROPERTY.

And that's all they did. Is there a reason for your misrepresentation of what they did? Now, I find their actions a bit much in the present time, but frankly, nearly every town I've lived in has had this kind of ordinance since the cows left for the pasture.

It's daffodil season in NJ, Jedi, and I suspect the township has a few of its own in the park.

Now, if you're so concerned, go there and try to get the town fined by the town for their own daffodils, and see how far you get.

Crossbow
28th March 2003, 11:55 AM
Amen jj!

Thanks for doing the leg work on that article.

Gee whiz JK you are really batting a thousand today.

In the future, I suggest that you spend just a couple of minutes to research your data before kicking your electronic mouth into high gear.

Case in point, the below is the very first sentence in the article:

The borough mayor supports the council’s unanimous vote to outlaw any ribbons or other memorials for the American troops fightingin Iraq, if those ribbons are placed on public property because the government doesn’t want them there.

jj
28th March 2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Crossbow
Amen jj!

Thanks for doing the leg work on that article.

Gee whiz JK you are really batting a thousand today.

In the future, I suggest that you spend just a couple of minutes to research your data before kicking your electronic mouth into high gear.

Case in point, the below is the very first sentence in the article:

The borough mayor supports the council’s unanimous vote to outlaw any ribbons or other memorials for the American troops fightingin Iraq, if those ribbons are placed on public property because the government doesn’t want them there.

Maybe we ought to send Jedi some daffodils. Perhaps the flowers would help?

Jedi Knight
28th March 2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Crossbow
Amen jj!

Thanks for doing the leg work on that article.

Gee whiz JK you are really batting a thousand today.

In the future, I suggest that you spend just a couple of minutes to research your data before kicking your electronic mouth into high gear.

Case in point, the below is the very first sentence in the article:

The borough mayor supports the council’s unanimous vote to outlaw any ribbons or other memorials for the American troops fightingin Iraq, if those ribbons are placed on public property because the government doesn’t want them there.

No, there is no law against posting flowers. That is leftist cultural terror to imagine there is a law. If flowers were posted to support a gay-day parade, nothing would come of it. But since the flowers were to support US troops fighting for their lives and American ideals, the cultural terrorist left just couldn't have that.

No, environmentalism and the spreading of flowers goes out the window when the flowers support the spreading of the idea of America. That is what the terror-left is all about.

JK

Bentspoon
28th March 2003, 05:00 PM
We had a similar incident here in the NW where a military wife put up an American flag outside her apartment.

The TV news teaser said "Military wife told to remove American flag"

Now that gets your blood going doesn't it. What is this .. er .... leftist culture terror?

Then the story relates how she lived in aprtments where she signed a lease and agreed by contract not to screw anything into the external walls - it was the bracket and not the flag.

By the way, just as a side, the terrorist landlords helped her get a nicer apartment where they didn't mind the bracket. She is quite happy and flies a flag outside.

It was quite different than the teaser.

I think that is JK isn't it - just a teaser until you get the real story.

Bentspoon

jj
30th March 2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight


No, there is no law against posting flowers.
JK
Originally posted by Jedi Knight

With America at war and our troops on the move fighting against the hostile forces of evil in Iraq, a New Jersey community recently banned yellow flowers, the traditional symbol of support for deployed US soldiers overseas.


Jedi, dear, was that a lie, an exageration, or an unethical troll?

Do tell!

Tony
30th March 2003, 05:59 PM
I guess we should outlaw protesting on public property now.

Pyrrho
30th March 2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Tony
I guess we should outlaw protesting on public property now.

That's next.


"Where would you draw a line if you started allowing the use of public property to exhibit whatever cause anyone wanted?" Tyler said. "Suppose someone wants to tie pink ribbons, or black flags, or a Confederate flag or a Nazi flag on public property?"


Yes, yes...the Republic could never survive such displays. :rolleyes:

schplurg
30th March 2003, 11:59 PM
Tony:
I guess we should outlaw protesting on public property now.
Good point, very nice. And what about those "Vote for Me" signs that crop up at election time? Where I live (left coast) they are everywhere...including public property. And do they get taken down after the election? Eventually.

Ordering the ribbons be taken down was a MUCH bigger political statement than having them there in the first place. Some rules should be bent IMO, and often are, especially in small towns. It's just a F'n ribbon anyways...no statements on it at all.

sigh, whatever.

Questioninggeller
31st March 2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight

It is leftist cultural terrorism against Americans that seeks to provide sympathy for the terror Iraqi state while our soldiers are deployed overseas.


EVERY SINGLE ONE? or just the ones opposed to this War?