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eyesoftruth
9th January 2005, 07:31 AM
Howdy.
I just watched video "The Disclosure Project, where couple dozen ex-generals and other bigshoeman try to make you believe, that Aliens are really here and Goverment take cover operations and other stuff like that. And there are technologies, but Goverment don't like to release them Global use, because money.
Anyone here watched that video or read book from Steven M. Greer?
Is these guys really how reliable source of information?
What i checked they internet site rapidly, there is some campaign to try reveal truth about these things under way.
CFLarsen
9th January 2005, 07:40 AM
Not very believable.
If they have secret information, why don't they just spill it?
If they have evidence, why not just show it?
Hellbound
9th January 2005, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by CFLarsen
Not very believable.
If they have secret information, why don't they just spill it?
If they have evidence, why not just show it?
And if it really is such a secret, why wouldn't it be in their best interest to go public with evidence immediately? You'd think the government would be on the ball enough to find these people and remove any evidence, assuming they had it. The government could do so legally, because if it is some secret then the people had to violate laws to gain said evidence. They would be tracked by the FBI and local police, possibly even APBs put out for "persons wanted for theft or government property" or for "suspected espionage", or treason, or any of a number of other possible crimes.
If these people wanted the truth to get out then they ONLY logical thing to do is release the truth immediately, to a wide enough audience that it can't be swept under the rug. Otherwise their simply idiots.
Most conspiracy theories hold about as much logical water as a collander with the bottom cut out.
CFLarsen
9th January 2005, 08:12 AM
And if they do know about this secret...how come they know about it?
It's not full of holes, it's one big (a55)hole...
Psiload
9th January 2005, 08:23 AM
One more misguided kook who spends way too much time on his UFO hobby. Ten years of his life wasted on this crap, and nothing to show for it but a videotape full of useless anecdotes.
The guy needs to grow up and devote more of his time to his family, and his day job.
edited to add:
When I see how much time, effort, and bandwidth has been/is being wasted on this UFO crap, it makes me want to cry. Fifty years and God knows how many millions, maybe even billions, of dollars spent on these UFO fairytales, and what the hell does anyone have to show for it? Has it benefited society in any way, shape, or form? It's all just one gigantic mess of squandered potential.
Sad is what it is.
Mercutio
9th January 2005, 08:45 AM
One of the profs here at the University is a science advisor to the project. He is Professor of Earth Sciences and Oceanography here--oddly enough, his University bio does not include any mention of his Disclosure Project connection. He's not shy about it, though, and has appeared on the local Public Radio doing a show about it. (Just checked; it is no longer available online. I do have a tape of it.) The show was (unintentionally) hilarious; it seems there is very little this man will not believe. Lots of talk about reverse-engineered zero-point energy technology and how that will save the planet. It is obvious to him that the aliens have come here to help us. He has no concept of eyewitness reliability--a high-ranking military official could not possibly be mistaken when identifying a UFO...
At one point show, a woman calls in describing a UFO she saw, in a particular location, and how frightened she and her sister were... The expert says he knows about sightings in that area, and urges the gubmint to release what they know... A later caller, though, has a different take on what appears to be the same incident. This second caller was part of a small squadron of ultralight airplanes who used to fly in formation to try to get people to think they were a UFO. At one point, one of their group flew back to check on something, then returned to the formation; eyewitness accounts spoke of a smaller craft zipping away from the mother ship and back again...spoke of being able to see through the portholes in the mother ship...
The disclosure project seems based on the idea that if you throw together a lot of unreliable testimony, you get solid evidence.
eyesoftruth
9th January 2005, 09:01 AM
The disclosure project seems based on the idea that if you throw together a lot of unreliable testimony, you get solid evidence.
That is how i also feel. I currently watching their press in May 9th 2001.
TheBoyPaj
9th January 2005, 09:34 AM
The disclosure project seems based on the idea that if you throw together a lot of unreliable testimony, you get solid evidence.
It's a common idea. In fact, it seems to be the sole basis of Interesting Ian's opinions.
Bikewer
9th January 2005, 10:47 AM
In Sagan's Demon-Haunted World, he takes the notion to task.
During the Cold War, he speculates, while we were looking for any advantage over the Soviets, wouldn't we have used this marvellous alien technology?
As it was, all we were able to do in the end was outspend them.
T'ai Chi
9th January 2005, 11:39 AM
A few years back, one of these people tried to convince me that the so-called UFOs in artwork show these UFOs have been around for a while.
Skeptic had a good issue on that topic a few issues ago. :)
Bikewer
9th January 2005, 09:17 PM
I have an excellent history of Science-fiction art, and in the prologue there's a fine illustration of a spherical UFO "buzzing" a monoplane and it's occupants.
It's dated 1931, 16 years before "flyilng saucers" began appearing on US newspaper headlines
c4ts
9th January 2005, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by eyesoftruth
Howdy.
I just watched video "The Disclosure Project, where couple dozen ex-generals and other bigshoeman try to make you believe, that Aliens are really here and Goverment take cover operations and other stuff like that. And there are technologies, but Goverment don't like to release them Global use, because money.
Anyone here watched that video or read book from Steven M. Greer?
Is these guys really how reliable source of information?
What i checked they internet site rapidly, there is some campaign to try reveal truth about these things under way.
Sounds like some politicos got behind that one to attack government in general.
CFLarsen
9th January 2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Bikewer
I have an excellent history of Science-fiction art, and in the prologue there's a fine illustration of a spherical UFO "buzzing" a monoplane and it's occupants.
It's dated 1931, 16 years before "flyilng saucers" began appearing on US newspaper headlines
Can you scan that for me?
Bikewer
10th January 2005, 07:31 AM
I'll try! It's a little pic on towards the inside edge of a very thick book.
Maybe I can find a link somewhere.
Hehe- google is wonderful:
http://www.noosfere.com/showcase/IMAGES/amaz_3107.jpg
kookbreaker
10th January 2005, 08:33 AM
Hmmm:
"Hoverspheres Harassed my AutoGyro!"
That's a sentence you don't get to say often enough!
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